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Mini UKOPS 5 - Is this a call
Think i made a big mistake here - Not sure tho
Late in the game - 22 left - (Top 70+ paid)
My thinking was because the two shoves came from UTG and UTG+1 one of them had to be beating me
I have about 18bbs and 1 of them covered
Late in the game - 22 left - (Top 70+ paid)
My thinking was because the two shoves came from UTG and UTG+1 one of them had to be beating me
I have about 18bbs and 1 of them covered
| Player | Action | Cards | Amount | Pot | Balance |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| MP33 | Small blind | 6000.00 | 6000.00 | 215786.62 | |
| peanut22 | Big blind | 12000.00 | 18000.00 | 138341.12 | |
| Your hole cards |
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| All-in | 115609.00 | 133609.00 | 0.00 | ||
| xxxx | All-in | 106177.00 | 239786.00 | 0.00 | |
| tom184 | Fold | ||||
| CAESARTRIP | Fold | ||||
| MP33 | Fold | ||||
| peanut22 | Fold | ||||
| xxxx | Unmatched bet | 9432.00 | 230354.00 | 9432.00 | |
| xxxx | Show |
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| xxxx | Show |
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| Flop | |||||
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| Turn | |||||
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| River | |||||
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| xxxxx | Win | Two Pairs, Queens and Jacks | 230354.00 | 230354.00 | |
Comments
No, it's far from correct.
Maybe the sidepot means the HH does not come out as expected. The pot that involved MP33 was won by him with a boat, not "Two Pairs, Queens & Jacks".
One of them was beating you, they both were! Think it’s a call here though for bounties.
I think we have to call here. I know its utg and utg+1 but not like they are getting in loads of bb. Is either looking at A10 or kq and folding? Even if we lose we still have a spinnable stack.
Ahh, my bad, bit of a misread, sorry.
Assuming the stack sizes are correct, since you say you only cover one but appear to cover both, then this is a reasonable call from a pure chipEV perspective.
Don't think you need to worry about the EP players being tight when they're under 10bb. Mr UTG could be jamming hands as bad as 22, A8, J9s, etc here and you're still ahead of a lot of the caller's range.
As @MattBates pointed out - I did have both covered - not just 1. (and WD on winning one of the UKOPS - i watched last few minutes HU)
Looking back now i think i bottled it - Its a leak i need to look at - spending hours building a stack and don,t want to go out - so i tighten up to much
How much is HRC and do you recommend it? Did you manually assign the ranges for UTG and UTG+1 or does the software assign those ranges?
I decided to go for HRC primarily on the basis that they have a Mac app and it's nice to support Mac developers when none of the most useful poker tools have Mac apps.
Both apps automatically assign ranges based on equilibrium calculations but you can also modify them manually and re-run the sims or assign your own.
I see why you've done it - but as the more experienced guys above have put. I think you have to call with having the chips.
In this case I was covered by both players, so I think that is a key difference as I could bust and cannot win any bounties. Plus laddering was worth a few quid.
Was that enough to make the fold correct?
SB has <10bb so could be shoving stupidly wide. UTG will be opening a lot you're ahead of and calling very wide when there are two bounties to win. I think AQo is a pretty easy call when you stand to triple up.
It makes a difference that we don't cover anyone, so should call off a little tighter probably. But it makes more of a difference that UTG is going to call off with just about any two.
Presumably you're close to last so ICM isn't as much of a concern I don't think.
Pro's
1) You cover both stacks who are sub 10bb.
2) You still have a stack if you lose and you have to win your flips in tourneys and
be very lucky.
3) You would still have equity in the hand and you could take out two people and have a stack that could final table
4) YOU have cashed and could make it a much bigger payday.
Con's
1) Poker player in you sees the Shove and snap call in front of you and sees extreme strength in these plays that AQs cant handle and must be behind. Its not always the way but when we have cashed sometimes we play more conservatively.
2)Suddenly we have a 240K pot in front of us and our stack is 215K and we have both stacks covered and a very playable hand. Poker dictates that when the pots are at their biggest we should be trying our very hardest to win it but survival instincts swerve us the other way which is not the right mindset.
It is tough but at least you are looking back and seeing what could be different next time and what other options and thought processes are available to you.
Good luck
Danny