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Ace King, thoughts on this situation....
ShaunyT
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So, interesting spot in a SCOOP tournament last night. $11 Bounty Hunter
Couple of hours in, going pretty well, couple of bounties and a 100bb stack:
Short stack is in the bb with 20k chips (700/1400) and I pick up AK on the button. Another big stack at the table has me covered and x3 raises (4200) in early position, I pop it up to 10k OTB, bb shoves, it goes back round to villain who pops it up to 55k.
No reads on the villain, bounty on offer is low. What's the move?
Couple of hours in, going pretty well, couple of bounties and a 100bb stack:
Short stack is in the bb with 20k chips (700/1400) and I pick up AK on the button. Another big stack at the table has me covered and x3 raises (4200) in early position, I pop it up to 10k OTB, bb shoves, it goes back round to villain who pops it up to 55k.
No reads on the villain, bounty on offer is low. What's the move?
Comments
Personally, I 3bet slightly bigger, probably 15K total, however either way after making it 10K, following the 55K 4bet, I would 5bet shove.
100BB's is quite a lot to get in with AK, I agree, however the villains 4bet was big, suggesting not AA to me and probably not KK. I'd be more concerned if he made it 30K.
In a vacuum, assuming he's neither a nutter or a nit, I would have his probable range as AK, AQ, QQ, JJ, TT which AK is OK against especially with the pot odds. He quite easily could have the same hand as you.
I think his three most likely hands are, AK, JJ or TT, although his range is also impacted by how he has labelled you, if you had been very aggro up until then then that widens his range,
Doesn't look like AA , admittedly could be KK occasionally, although his bet size and your blockers make it less likely than the other hands above that are in his range.
Not sure everyone would agree with me, but that's my take.
What did you do? What did he have? How did it turn out?
I hope you won the hand.
As played its an extremely tough decision and this is the reason you should take player nots/tag players. Admittedly it's a lot tougher to do that usefully on on stars due to the sheer player pool numbers but just a simple note or tag sometimes makes all the difference. I probably lean towards a call although this is very marginal at best.
As it turned out I 5bet shoved, shorty had 10 10 and big stack villain had KK. I didn't improve, good night sweet prince...
After I bust, all I could think was: in such a big tournament with 2 days of play (potentially) was it the right spot to get 100bb's in? Great bet from the villain in my opinion, makes it really tough to call and re-evaluate on the flop.
Love the quote "nutter or nit", that is so true, villain could easily show up with AA, or 55, or QJ suited. It really does play like that on Stars sometimes.
Follow up questions: If I think villain has any pocket pair (I thought maybe QQ JJ) and I think shorty might have some of my outs, can I find a fold pre flop? Or if I'm thinking like that should I be ashamed of myself? lol, I mean 100bb at risk vs possibly worse than a flip?
Or would it be better/worse to call off half my stack (as played) and have to fold to an inevitable cbet? That sounds massively leaky to me, I would have still been left with a 50bb stack.
If I played it as Sunday8pm described, I could have flat the raise pre, seen a flop for 3bb, and possibly found a fold on the flop. With the shorty being all in, I would have seen the cards of both villains anyway. Such a tricky spot.
God I love/hate poker!!