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Bart Hanson analyses some key Postle hands.

Tikay10Tikay10 Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 171,974
edited September 2020 in Poker Chat
This is fascinating if you have a little time to spare.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQkI_4pjmaw&feature=youtu.be

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  • Tikay10Tikay10 Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 171,974

    There's some oddities in there.

    Bart describes & shows what he calls a few "call only hands".

    In one Postle just calls with a full house against a better full house for a small bet.

    In another, Postle has the A flush & opponent catches the straight flush & bets $130 from a $400 stack - & Postle just calls.

    There's no doubt in my mind that Postle was cheating & could "see" his opponents cards, but if he knows he is losing, why call at all?


  • Tikay10Tikay10 Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 171,974

    In one hand Postle has K-K & folds pre-flop to a fella who has Aces.
  • Tikay10Tikay10 Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 171,974
    edited September 2020
    Here's the Bart Hanson tweet. Well worth reading the replies it gets.














  • hhyftrftdrhhyftrftdr Member Posts: 8,036
    Tikay10 said:


    There's some oddities in there.

    Bart describes & shows what he calls a few "call only hands".

    In one Postle just calls with a full house against a better full house for a small bet.

    In another, Postle has the A flush & opponent catches the straight flush & bets $130 from a $400 stack - & Postle just calls.

    There's no doubt in my mind that Postle was cheating & could "see" his opponents cards, but if he knows he is losing, why call at all?


    Would look very suss (even more so than it already does) if he folded in spots that he shouldn't despite knowing he is beat.

    This is the crux of it for me. I have no doubt that he was cheating by some means, and if he was sensible with it he coulda flown under the radar for years making good money.

    Call the spots you should call, even if beat.
    Go broke in spots you should go broke.
    Don't get greedy with the God like reads and plays, just use them sparingly.
    Really push the marginal spots where it's going to be difficult to decipher if it was a good play/read or something more sinister.
    Take players to value town when you know they are a pair/kicker/flush behind you.

    Thinking he's cheating and proving he's cheating is so hard to do, especially in a game like poker. Unless you catch him in the act then it's all open for interpretation, despite how damning the 'evidence' may look to people who play the game.

    Had Postle kept a lower profile he could've milked this cow for years.
  • kapowblamzkapowblamz Member Posts: 1,596
    I've barely paid any notice to all this business. Most of the talk is people trying to prove or disprove that he cheated so I don't even bother reading or getting involved.

    Postle cheated. There is no doubt whatsoever.
  • rabdenirorabdeniro Member Posts: 4,479
    Tikay10 said:


    In one hand Postle has K-K & folds pre-flop to a fella who has Aces.

    What do you think of the Fedor Kruse situation ?.
  • Tikay10Tikay10 Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 171,974
    rabdeniro said:

    Tikay10 said:


    In one hand Postle has K-K & folds pre-flop to a fella who has Aces.

    What do you think of the Fedor Kruse situation ?.
    @rabdeniro

    Arguably, his case is worse than the Postle case. And I'd say he is definitely guilty.

  • rabdenirorabdeniro Member Posts: 4,479
    Yep it looks ropey.
  • Tikay10Tikay10 Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 171,974
    edited September 2020
    For those interested, the 2+2 Fedor Kruse thread is linked below. (WARNING - lengthy read).


    https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/29/news-views-gossip/evidence-rta-case-glitchsystem-fedor-kruse-1777628/?highlight=kruse




    A more concise & brief version is on Poker News, here;



    https://uk.pokernews.com/news/2020/09/fedor-kruse-solver-cheat-high-stakes-cash-39469.htm
  • weecheez1weecheez1 Member Posts: 1,686

    Tikay10 said:


    There's some oddities in there.

    Bart describes & shows what he calls a few "call only hands".

    In one Postle just calls with a full house against a better full house for a small bet.

    In another, Postle has the A flush & opponent catches the straight flush & bets $130 from a $400 stack - & Postle just calls.

    There's no doubt in my mind that Postle was cheating & could "see" his opponents cards, but if he knows he is losing, why call at all?


    Would look very suss (even more so than it already does) if he folded in spots that he shouldn't despite knowing he is beat.

    This is the crux of it for me. I have no doubt that he was cheating by some means, and if he was sensible with it he coulda flown under the radar for years making good money.

    Call the spots you should call, even if beat.
    Go broke in spots you should go broke.
    Don't get greedy with the God like reads and plays, just use them sparingly.
    Really push the marginal spots where it's going to be difficult to decipher if it was a good play/read or something more sinister.
    Take players to value town when you know they are a pair/kicker/flush behind you.

    Thinking he's cheating and proving he's cheating is so hard to do, especially in a game like poker. Unless you catch him in the act then it's all open for interpretation, despite how damning the 'evidence' may look to people who play the game.

    Had Postle kept a lower profile he could've milked this cow for years.
    You need a wee bit of watching far too much knowledge 🤔
  • DoyleBrunDoyleBrun Member Posts: 1,296
    More ammunition for the "poker is rigged brigade" and it won't matter to them that this was live poker.
  • hhyftrftdrhhyftrftdr Member Posts: 8,036
    weecheez1 said:

    Tikay10 said:


    There's some oddities in there.

    Bart describes & shows what he calls a few "call only hands".

    In one Postle just calls with a full house against a better full house for a small bet.

    In another, Postle has the A flush & opponent catches the straight flush & bets $130 from a $400 stack - & Postle just calls.

    There's no doubt in my mind that Postle was cheating & could "see" his opponents cards, but if he knows he is losing, why call at all?


    Would look very suss (even more so than it already does) if he folded in spots that he shouldn't despite knowing he is beat.

    This is the crux of it for me. I have no doubt that he was cheating by some means, and if he was sensible with it he coulda flown under the radar for years making good money.

    Call the spots you should call, even if beat.
    Go broke in spots you should go broke.
    Don't get greedy with the God like reads and plays, just use them sparingly.
    Really push the marginal spots where it's going to be difficult to decipher if it was a good play/read or something more sinister.
    Take players to value town when you know they are a pair/kicker/flush behind you.

    Thinking he's cheating and proving he's cheating is so hard to do, especially in a game like poker. Unless you catch him in the act then it's all open for interpretation, despite how damning the 'evidence' may look to people who play the game.

    Had Postle kept a lower profile he could've milked this cow for years.
    You need a wee bit of watching far too much knowledge 🤔
    I look at my crotch a lot anyway, deffo nothing dodgy going on at the next SPT.
  • mumsiemumsie Member Posts: 8,168
    A further discussion on the subject.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UFWkgH4bDWs
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