When you think the Sunday Million is the sweat of the day

BlairReid

Anyone flick in the odd jackpot/spinandgo/blast/spins/etc game? This was 8bb blind on blind jam AQ sb and 22 calls for £100k. Just when the football scores can't get any stranger, the poker scores always can.

loosecamel

But, did you get your buy-in back?

Seriously unlucky, love how they needle with "If you had finished 1st you would have won 100k" lmao

PKRPar

? whats this on?

and i know this may be as obvious, but i have to ask, if you won you would have won 100k?

Tikay10

Awesome.

Here's what you would have won

Doooobs

I am very confused by this. They look like they are saying the winner got £20 but if you won, you'd have won £100,000? Is that £100k announced before the end, or do they just say you would have won £100k at the end? It feels a dangerous path for a site to take. Are they encouraging you to gamble by saying that a 100k prize was on offer when only a £20 prize was available? Of course if they say you get 100k throughout it is different.

I have only played spins on Stars in recent history and everyone gets the same prize which is announced at the start (well at least in the ones I played)

mumsie

I also find the scenario confusing.

The name above yours "lozzawins" , who I assume finishes first ,seems to win £20, community Vault, where did the £100,000 actually end up ?

Tikay10

https://www.virgingames.com/uk/online-poker/wild-seat-poker

madprof

BlairReid said:

Anyone flick in the odd jackpot/spinandgo/blast/spins/etc game? This was 8bb blind on blind jam AQ sb and 22 calls for £100k. Just when the football scores can't get any stranger, the poker scores always can.

forch, you can afford it...

Doooobs

Thanks Tikay

I still don't really like it, as it gives the appearence the 100k prize is more common than it is. If OP really would have won £100k, and guess we should take the site's word for it, then it still tricks you into thinking the 100k prize is more common than it is. As you get to see the prize roughly three times as often as it is actually won. Same with all the big prizes.

I'd probably take a dim view of it if I was at the gambling commission, though I have no idea if it is against the rules. Presumably a lot of times that only a £20 prize is won there is a bigger prize on display for the two losing players, so the players are left thinking I could have won £100 (or whatever the biggest prize is) rather than I could have won £20.

BlairReid

Yeah thanks for providing the link Tony. For anyone who is still unsure what's going on, it's their equivalent of a spin an go where it's a four handed game and everyone gets a box (Noel Edmonds style) and you only see what was in it when you bust the game.

Doooobs said:

Thanks Tikay


I'd probably take a dim view of it if I was at the gambling commission, though I have no idea if it is against the rules. Presumably a lot of times that only a £20 prize is won there is a bigger prize on display for the two losing players, so the players are left thinking I could have won £100 (or whatever the biggest prize is) rather than I could have won £20.

This is a very good point and was exactly what I was thinking when this happened. Obviously the potential for abuse is apparent when you see the £50 and £40 scored out as you collect £20 but it doesn't really hit home until something like the above occurs. However, assuming they are properly regulated, I think it's actually better than having the spin before the game. Not sure whether it's just down to the player pool or not, but everyone seems to play them like they are sitting on a £100k box, which creates a much better game than just getting a 2x spin and people not caring.

But I guess that you are right, when it creates the incentive to skew your paytable percentages so much in a game that is already near on impossible to regulate it's probably always a negative.

MP33

I,ve been playing on there for years - The rake is a killer though - 11.1%

MP33

mumsie said:

I also find the scenario confusing.

The name above yours "lozzawins" , who I assume finishes first ,seems to win £20, community Vault, where did the £100,000 actually end up ?

Lozzawins gets £20 - The community vault is just a freeroll ticket which is virtually worthless. The 100K is not won and so stays with Virgin.

mumsie

Shower of ****** bags.

I see they say look at what you could have won.

Absolute insult to intelligence.

Doooobs

BlairReid said:

Yeah thanks for providing the link Tony. For anyone who is still unsure what's going on, it's their equivalent of a spin an go where it's a four handed game and everyone gets a box (Noel Edmonds style) and you only see what was in it when you bust the game.

Doooobs said:

Thanks Tikay


I'd probably take a dim view of it if I was at the gambling commission, though I have no idea if it is against the rules. Presumably a lot of times that only a £20 prize is won there is a bigger prize on display for the two losing players, so the players are left thinking I could have won £100 (or whatever the biggest prize is) rather than I could have won £20.

This is a very good point and was exactly what I was thinking when this happened. Obviously the potential for abuse is apparent when you see the £50 and £40 scored out as you collect £20 but it doesn't really hit home until something like the above occurs. However, assuming they are properly regulated, I think it's actually better than having the spin before the game. Not sure whether it's just down to the player pool or not, but everyone seems to play them like they are sitting on a £100k box, which creates a much better game than just getting a 2x spin and people not caring.

But I guess that you are right, when it creates the incentive to skew your paytable percentages so much in a game that is already near on impossible to regulate it's probably always a negative.

I think it is probably best for the players not to know that you are playing for 100k. It is hard to play your A game with big money at stake even if it is the same for everyone.

I do think the best strat is to just close as soon as you lose. Nothing good can come from knowing you lost 100k. It will be a bit like the temptation to look at the hands that you missed after you have to leave the table for some reason. I am pretty good at tilt control these days, well better than I was, but can't imagine losing 100k is going to result in me playing my best afterwards.