Stupid woman

VespaPX

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9044549/Senior-Labour-MP-OBE-calls-scrapping-offensive-Empire-honours-titles.html

Essexphil

I don't see why someone should be deemed "stupid" for wanting to remove the word "Empire" from our Honours system.

Many people find the word offensive. As an example, the "Empire Games" changed its name to the "Commonwealth Games" because people found the term offensive. In 1970.

And no amount of pretending otherwise by the awful Daily Mail will change that.

VespaPX

Essexphil said:

I don't see why someone should be deemed "stupid" for wanting to remove the word "Empire" from our Honours system.

Many people find the word offensive. As an example, the "Empire Games" changed its name to the "Commonwealth Games" because people found the term offensive. In 1970.

And no amount of pretending otherwise by the awful Daily Mail will change that.

She was happy to accept hers though

BBC article better?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-55278454

Essexphil

VespaPX said:

Essexphil said:

I don't see why someone should be deemed "stupid" for wanting to remove the word "Empire" from our Honours system.

Many people find the word offensive. As an example, the "Empire Games" changed its name to the "Commonwealth Games" because people found the term offensive. In 1970.

And no amount of pretending otherwise by the awful Daily Mail will change that.

She was happy to accept hers though

BBC article better?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-55278454

Similar. Misleading headline, followed by giving voice to Conservatives who appear not to understand the point.

This isn't a campaign to change the Honours system. Just for "OBE" to mean "Order of British Excellence". Because "Excellence" is what the award is for. Not "Empire".