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You Cant Sack Me.

HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,862
edited February 2021 in The Rail
'You can't sack me - I'll sue': Farce of employment tribunals as a THIEF claims unfair dismissal, a detective launches thirteen failed complaints and a nurse says 'crack the whip' was racist



Delays have become so protracted that one centre, the London South Employment Tribunal, is - astonishingly - taking an average of six years to process claims, according to Her Majesty's Courts And Tribunal Service. Half of the new judges, though qualified lawyers, have never sat before. One former solicitor's only judging experience is of poetry competitions. Why the sudden need for all the new and inexperienced judges? Because employment has evolved to become one of the most complex areas in the legal system, covering everything from equality and discrimination to wages and unfair dismissal. Nobody wants to see workers mistreated, but experts increasingly believe employers are facing a system loaded against them. Even if companies win, there is usually no way to recover legal costs from the complainant - typically a disgruntled employee. Fees can soar to £1 million on both sides. Pictured: Leon Welling, 44, a van driver at Hallmark Catering Equipment Hire in London, texted Charmian Scott (left) to call her a 'f****** ugly bent-tooth pi key'. Right, DC Derrick Quarm saw his most recent case against the Metropolitan Police for race victimisation dismissed in July

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9276441/You-sack-Ill-sue-employment-hearings-ruinously-expensive.html

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  • EssexphilEssexphil Member Posts: 8,775
    HAYSIE said:

    'You can't sack me - I'll sue': Farce of employment tribunals as a THIEF claims unfair dismissal, a detective launches thirteen failed complaints and a nurse says 'crack the whip' was racist



    Delays have become so protracted that one centre, the London South Employment Tribunal, is - astonishingly - taking an average of six years to process claims, according to Her Majesty's Courts And Tribunal Service. Half of the new judges, though qualified lawyers, have never sat before. One former solicitor's only judging experience is of poetry competitions. Why the sudden need for all the new and inexperienced judges? Because employment has evolved to become one of the most complex areas in the legal system, covering everything from equality and discrimination to wages and unfair dismissal. Nobody wants to see workers mistreated, but experts increasingly believe employers are facing a system loaded against them. Even if companies win, there is usually no way to recover legal costs from the complainant - typically a disgruntled employee. Fees can soar to £1 million on both sides. Pictured: Leon Welling, 44, a van driver at Hallmark Catering Equipment Hire in London, texted Charmian Scott (left) to call her a 'f****** ugly bent-tooth pi key'. Right, DC Derrick Quarm saw his most recent case against the Metropolitan Police for race victimisation dismissed in July

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9276441/You-sack-Ill-sue-employment-hearings-ruinously-expensive.html

    And, in shock news, the Daily Fail is talking nonsense. Again.

    My first ever appearance in an Employment Tribunal was at London South. I remember it principally not because I won, but because the Claimant headbutted me. Charming woman :).

    Why are there so few experienced ET Judges? Simple. Traditionally, experienced barristers became Judges because, although the pay was not great, it was employed as opposed to self-employed, and had a great Final Salary Pension Scheme. Which the Government scrapped, and Judges left in their droves. And announced that all Courts are expected to make a profit.

    The system loaded against Employers? Hardly. Let me check. Who is most able to afford legal fees-multi-billion pound companies, or someone who has just lost their job? The rule presuming no costs is there to stop large companies threatening ex-employees with legal costs. Employees, as well as employers, do not normally get costs in Tribunals (unlike Courts).

    Still-at least the Mail managed to sneak in a racial slur.
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,862
    Essexphil said:

    HAYSIE said:

    'You can't sack me - I'll sue': Farce of employment tribunals as a THIEF claims unfair dismissal, a detective launches thirteen failed complaints and a nurse says 'crack the whip' was racist



    Delays have become so protracted that one centre, the London South Employment Tribunal, is - astonishingly - taking an average of six years to process claims, according to Her Majesty's Courts And Tribunal Service. Half of the new judges, though qualified lawyers, have never sat before. One former solicitor's only judging experience is of poetry competitions. Why the sudden need for all the new and inexperienced judges? Because employment has evolved to become one of the most complex areas in the legal system, covering everything from equality and discrimination to wages and unfair dismissal. Nobody wants to see workers mistreated, but experts increasingly believe employers are facing a system loaded against them. Even if companies win, there is usually no way to recover legal costs from the complainant - typically a disgruntled employee. Fees can soar to £1 million on both sides. Pictured: Leon Welling, 44, a van driver at Hallmark Catering Equipment Hire in London, texted Charmian Scott (left) to call her a 'f****** ugly bent-tooth pi key'. Right, DC Derrick Quarm saw his most recent case against the Metropolitan Police for race victimisation dismissed in July

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9276441/You-sack-Ill-sue-employment-hearings-ruinously-expensive.html

    And, in shock news, the Daily Fail is talking nonsense. Again.

    My first ever appearance in an Employment Tribunal was at London South. I remember it principally not because I won, but because the Claimant headbutted me. Charming woman :).

    Why are there so few experienced ET Judges? Simple. Traditionally, experienced barristers became Judges because, although the pay was not great, it was employed as opposed to self-employed, and had a great Final Salary Pension Scheme. Which the Government scrapped, and Judges left in their droves. And announced that all Courts are expected to make a profit.

    The system loaded against Employers? Hardly. Let me check. Who is most able to afford legal fees-multi-billion pound companies, or someone who has just lost their job? The rule presuming no costs is there to stop large companies threatening ex-employees with legal costs. Employees, as well as employers, do not normally get costs in Tribunals (unlike Courts).

    Still-at least the Mail managed to sneak in a racial slur.
    I went to one once.
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