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Tragedy in India

Tikay10Tikay10 Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 161,268
edited April 2021 in The Rail
This is beyond awful.

It always seemed likely that India, with it's dense population centres, would be a prime candidate for COVID. Well they are just entering their "Wave 2" & it's ghastly.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-india-56826645


No doubt some loony, sitting comfortably in their armchair in front of their large screen TV in rural England, will be along in due course to blithely inform us that there is no such thing as COVID. Ugh.
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    kapowblamzkapowblamz Member Posts: 1,531
    We thought India had been botching the numbers initially because, considering how India is, they were one of the most susceptible countries in the world, and it seemed like they had nowhere near as much as you'd expect.

    They're going to need some aid, big time.
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    HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 32,534
    India's Covid death toll could be TEN TIMES higher, with crematoriums 'burning far more victims that reports show' - as country records global record 314,835 cases in a day



    India's health infrastructure has been brought to its knees by a second wave which is three times higher than the first, with medics pointing to a new variant believed to be more infectious. At the start of the year, India thought it had beaten the pandemic and had kicked off a mass vaccination drive. Face masks and social distancing were cast aside and huge crowds flocked to religious festivals, election rallies and cricket matches. But now cities are on lockdown again, anti-viral drugs like redesivir are being sold on a flourishing black market and oxygen cylinders are being looted, with tankers given armed escorts to transport supplies. While India's infections have risen higher than any other country in the world, their deaths have remained conspicuously low. Local news reports from the states of Gujarat, Uttar Pradesh, Madhya Pradesh and Bihar reveal that while at least 1,833 people died of coronavirus recently, based on the number of cremations, just 228 have been officially tallied.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9498829/Indias-Covid-death-toll-TEN-TIMES-higher.html
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    HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 32,534
    Our Government have been very slow to add India to the red list.

    Heathrow refuses to allow extra flights from India because of border queues as passengers scramble to Britain before nation is added to red list at 4am tomorrow amid new variant surge



    Four airlines asked the west London airport for a total of eight extra flights to arrive at the hub before the Friday deadline so that returning UK travellers can avoid the gruelling 10-day hotel quarantine


    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9498647/Covid-UK-Heathrow-refuses-allow-extra-flights-India-passengers-scramble-Britain.html
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    TheEdge949TheEdge949 Member Posts: 5,274
    Something like this transcends boundaries whether they be political or religious and yes Countries who are able should provide whatever assistance they can immediately.

    The only caveat I would offer would be that any such aid, help, assistance, call it what you will is directly inputted to where it's needed and bypasses the corruption and self serving of those in power.

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    HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 32,534
    Airlines are now charging up to £17,000 for a flight back to the UK, that lands before the quarantine takes effect.
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    TheEdge949TheEdge949 Member Posts: 5,274
    No sympathy to be honest, Anybody who flew anywhere since March 2020 knew there would always be a risk of the travel bridges closing or quarantine measures being implemented.

    I'm not saying the airlines aren't being exploitative but it's happening everywhere.

    I'm in my caravan in Rhyl right now and there are people charging up to £1500 for a weeks stay in July August and getting bookings.

    Guest houses and BnBs are reporting attempts at gazumping by people desperate to get away for a break, and the hotels are going to be coining it in.

    As for me I refuse to be a part of it and the people who regularly rent my van will pay the same as they always have.
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    chillingchilling Member Posts: 3,774
    edited April 2021
    Tikay10 said:

    This is beyond awful.

    It always seemed likely that India, with it's dense population centres, would be a prime candidate for COVID. Well they are just entering their "Wave 2" & it's ghastly.


    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-india-56826645


    No doubt some loony, sitting comfortably in their armchair in front of their large screen TV in rural England, will be along in due course to blithely inform us that there is no such thing as COVID. Ugh.

    Spot the ten mistakes.







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    lucy4lucy4 Member Posts: 7,109
    Surely the Indian Government has to answer as to why they allowed festivals/meetings to continue despite the known threat. To allow 3 million people to congregate could only result in one outcome.


    Hundreds of devotees, including nine top saints, have tested positive for Covid-19 in India's Haridwar city where huge crowds have gathered to participate in the Kumbh Mela festival.

    More than three million Hindu devotees bathed in the Ganges river on Tuesday to mark one of the most auspicious days of the two-month-long festival.

    Millions are expected to repeat the ritual on Wednesday.

    India reported 184,372 new cases on Tuesday - its highest-daily spike yet.

    Many have criticised the government for allowing the festival to go ahead amid a raging pandemic.

    Officials said that nearly 900,000 people had taken a dip in the holy river by afternoon on Wednesday, which is considered to be the most auspicious day of the entire festival.
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    Tikay10Tikay10 Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 161,268

    I wholly agree with you @lucy4

    It's hard for me to grasp how important Religion is in those parts though. But yes, seemed very odd they allowed these huge gatherings. It really was tempting fate.

    Still a tragedy for the people though, whoever we choose to blame.

    Now they have to do it the hard way, with a severe Lockdown.
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    lucy4lucy4 Member Posts: 7,109
    Religion has a lot to answer for throughout the history of mankind, most of it bad.
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    Tikay10Tikay10 Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 161,268
    lucy4 said:

    Religion has a lot to answer for throughout the history of mankind, most of it bad.

    It's all some people have, & on balance, it's almost certainly a good thing. (I'm not religious, by the bye).
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    HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 32,534
    edited April 2021
    India has close to 16 million confirmed infections and saw a record number of cases on Thursday



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    HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 32,534
    Race to reach Britain: Passengers from 'red listed' India scramble to fly to UK before hotel quarantine starts - with cost of tickets trebling and travellers flying on private jets over WAR ZONES in bid to make it before 4am deadline



    The Asian nation is now recording a global record of 315,000 cases per day (inset) as a virulent variant of coronavirus sweeps the subcontinent, while the health ministry said there were 2,074 daily fatalities but experts say the true figure could be at least ten times higher. The last chartered flight from India landed at Heathrow at 7pm last night (main picture) but others hired $10,000-an-hour private jets for the 12-hour, 6,000-mile trip, to get to the UK, MailOnline can reveal today. One, chartered from Mumbai to Luton, took the decision to fly over wartorn Iraq, a route usually shunned by pilots, to get back to Britain in time. This morning at 7am the first flights from India landed in the UK, but the hundreds on board each flight must now stay in a government-approved quarantine for ten days on arrival. India's health infrastructure has been brought to its knees by a second wave which is three times higher than the first, with medics pointing to a new variant believed to be more infectious.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9502963/India-joins-red-list-Passengers-enter-UK-hotel-quarantine.html
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    HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 32,534
    Riddle of India's Covid tsunami: Miraculously, it escaped the worst of the pandemic - until now. AMRIT DHILLON's harrowing dispatch lays bare a nation's growing terror... while JOHN NAISH asks: so what are the implications for Britain?



    Another 314,835 infections were reported in India on Thursday, the world record for a daily cases figure, while the health ministry said there were 2,074 fatalities, a conspicuously low figure. AMRIT DHILLON writes that epidemiologists in the country are reporting virulent new variants driving this surge, including a 'double mutation' variant B1617 that does not always show up in tests even in those patients with full-blown symptoms and whose CT scans show all the tell-tale signs of coronavirus damage. There is even more frightening talk, too, of a 'triple' mutation variant. Will vaccines be effective against such variants? That would be more of a worry here, perhaps, if more people had been vaccinated - it stands at less than 10 per cent of the population so far. It is no exaggeration to say that it feels near calamitous at times. Government and hospital helplines ring out unanswered while the streets of cities and small towns are thronged with panic-stricken daughters, sons, husbands and wives doing what Mr Rastogi did - driving for hours to find oxygen or a hospital bed.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9501663/Riddle-Indias-Covid-tsunami-Miraculously-escaped-worst-pandemic-now.html
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    TheEdge949TheEdge949 Member Posts: 5,274
    And the powers that be are still going to insist that this is not a manufactured virus that escaped into the population.

    The science fiction of tomorrow becomes todays nightmare as the virus mutates almost at will and yet the Government instead of immediately sealing the borders allow thousands to scramble back before a deadline.

    This mutation will reek havoc in the UK because we let people back in from a mass infection area knowing that testing is not effective in picking this mutation up and why.

    If the country has to go into another lockdown because of this imported strain then we are going to see mass rebellion against the authorities.

    We are an island, it's not that difficult to go total exclusion, I.O.M managed it.
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    HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 32,534

    And the powers that be are still going to insist that this is not a manufactured virus that escaped into the population.

    The science fiction of tomorrow becomes todays nightmare as the virus mutates almost at will and yet the Government instead of immediately sealing the borders allow thousands to scramble back before a deadline.

    This mutation will reek havoc in the UK because we let people back in from a mass infection area knowing that testing is not effective in picking this mutation up and why.

    If the country has to go into another lockdown because of this imported strain then we are going to see mass rebellion against the authorities.

    We are an island, it's not that difficult to go total exclusion, I.O.M managed it.

    I read an article a couple of weeks ago, which said that we still had 8,000 people per day arriving in the UK.
    They took the p1ss out of a guy that arrived from Peru, who wanted to see Big Ben.
    These arrivals were from all over the world, and not just India, but why let anyone in?
    India has only just been included on the red list, despite having three times the infections of countries that have been on the red list for some time.
    I saw a woman in India that was looking to return to the UK with her family, being interviewed on the news yesterday, and she claimed that it was not possible to book a hotel to quarantine in, as the website was down.
    P1ss ups and breweries spring to mind.
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    HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 32,534
    Coronavirus second wave is set to kill 5,700 people a DAY in India: Swamped hospitals turn away patients away while victims suffocate to death on wards amid oxygen shortage - and anyone who delays supplies is threatened with the DEATH penalty



    Leading virologist Shahid Jameel today warned that India has still yet to hit the peak of its ferocious second wave, with studies suggesting it may record 500,000 cases per day in the first week of May. India's current fatality rate per 100,000 cases is 1.14 per cent, meaning if the nation reaches this anticipated peak there is the potential for 5,700 deaths per day. Desperate hospitals across the country are buckling under the strain of this second wave, with many quickly running out of oxygen and being forced to turn stricken patients away due to overcrowding. Harrowing images from a makeshift crematorium in New Delhi today illustrated the extent of the pandemic in India, with Sky News correspondent Alex Crawford (right) describing the situation as the 'tip of an iceberg' to a much larger crisis. The crematorium was set up outside a hospital in the capital by desperate people who 'cannot cope' with the number of dead - and were forced to say goodbye to their loved ones at an ad hoc funeral pyre site. It comes as the High Court in New Delhi, which is home to some 30million people, today met to impose a strict ruling that if anyone is found to be restricting oxygen supplies to hospitals, they 'will be hanged'. Pictured middle: Funeral pyres in New Delhi today.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9506681/Indias-devastating-second-wave-wont-peak-May.html
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    stokefcstokefc Member Posts: 7,655
    This is devastating ,really makes you think how bad this virus is if left uncontrolled , yet there is still non believers which is weird in itself
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    hhyftrftdrhhyftrftdr Member Posts: 8,036
    stokefc said:

    This is devastating ,really makes you think how bad this virus is if left uncontrolled , yet there is still non believers which is weird in itself

    Those people are morons.
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    chillingchilling Member Posts: 3,774
    edited April 2021
    Next stop off , Thailand, Malaysia, Philippines.......... place ya bets.
    Scrub Malaysia, maybe Indonesia.
    But, we’ve not gone to a truly Muslim country yet. Bit odd🤔

    Where was the tragedy in Mexico or Brazil thread?
    Stay alert.
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