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Critical Race Theory

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  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,862
    VespaPX said:

    HAYSIE said:

    goldon said:

    Jac35 said:

    Ok

    A question
    What are your thoughts on it Vespa?

    Give us your thoughts first.
    Are you his minder?
    Are you Jac's minder?
    I dont think he needs one.
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,862
    VespaPX said:

    HAYSIE said:

    goldon said:

    Jac35 said:

    Ok

    A question
    What are your thoughts on it Vespa?

    Give us your thoughts first.
    Are you his minder?
    Are you Jac's minder?
    You keep getting confused.

    I asked Goldon if he was your minder because he replied to a post that was clearly directed at you.

    I dont know why he answered it unless he thinks he is your minder.

    In fact you answered the post sometime later.

    I have not replied to any post directed @Jac35.

    The pair of you seem intent on squabbling, rather than debating the issues.

    I have asked a number of serious questions, which you seem uninterested in replying to.

    AS far as your mate is concerned, the least gibberish and nonsense he posts the better.
  • VespaPXVespaPX Member Posts: 12,404
    Viewing figures matter
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,862
    VespaPX said:

    Jac35 said:

    Ok

    A question
    What are your thoughts on it Vespa?

    I think the guy is right.
    If there are less black people in medical school now, than there were in 1978, how can the guy in your video possibly be right?
  • hhyftrftdrhhyftrftdr Member Posts: 8,036
    Vespa, you didn't answer my question in the other thread so I'll pose it here too.

    How many people have you shot and killed with your ''favourite gun''?
  • TheEdge949TheEdge949 Member Posts: 5,686
    I'm guessing Vespa was a former serviceman. If so there are certain questions you don't ask.

    That's number1 on the list
  • chillingchilling Member Posts: 3,774
    Many African Americans distrust the physicians, and do their best to avoid hospitals.
    It’s not only due to the cost.
    So, I’d presume from birth, there would be no great calling.

  • VespaPXVespaPX Member Posts: 12,404
    Have a scroll through this

    https://twitter.com/libsoftiktok
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,862
    chilling said:

    Many African Americans distrust the physicians, and do their best to avoid hospitals.
    It’s not only due to the cost.
    So, I’d presume from birth, there would be no great calling.

    Dont you think the argument he is putting forward is equivalent to Marcus Rashford arguing that black people cant be oppressed because he is a PL footballer, and earns millions.
  • VespaPXVespaPX Member Posts: 12,404
    1 + 1 still = 2 right?


  • hhyftrftdrhhyftrftdr Member Posts: 8,036
    edited June 2021
  • chillingchilling Member Posts: 3,774
    edited June 2021
    HAYSIE said:

    chilling said:

    Many African Americans distrust the physicians, and do their best to avoid hospitals.
    It’s not only due to the cost.
    So, I’d presume from birth, there would be no great calling.

    Dont you think the argument he is putting forward is equivalent to Marcus Rashford arguing that black people cant be oppressed because he is a PL footballer, and earns millions.
    Can’t see any comparison.
    You could say that about any proffesion.
    Do you think only black skinned folks may suffer from oppression or discrimination?
    It has nothing to do with your background,where you attended school or lived?
    I’d have thought it was about securing funding to attend UNI?
    The doctors in my health centre are mostly Indian.
    Most likely encouraged by their parents,or following their parents into the profession.

    Best do a poll with black youngsters in the US, and ask them what they want to become.
    I’d doubt joining the medical profession would be in the top ten.
    Critical Race Theory is not my strong point, but I’ll use the common sense approach.
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,862
    chilling said:

    HAYSIE said:

    chilling said:

    Many African Americans distrust the physicians, and do their best to avoid hospitals.
    It’s not only due to the cost.
    So, I’d presume from birth, there would be no great calling.

    Dont you think the argument he is putting forward is equivalent to Marcus Rashford arguing that black people cant be oppressed because he is a PL footballer, and earns millions.
    Can’t see any comparison.
    You could say that about any proffesion.
    Do you think only black skinned folks may suffer from oppression or discrimination?
    It has nothing to do with your background,where you attended school or lived?
    I’d have thought it was about securing funding to attend UNI?
    The doctors in my health centre are mostly Indian.
    Most likely encouraged by their parents,or following their parents into the profession.

    Best do a poll with black youngsters in the US, and ask them what they want to become.
    I’d doubt joining the medical profession would be in the top ten.
    Critical Race Theory is not my strong point, but I’ll use the common sense approach.
    Did you even watch he video?

    The message I got was that the guy was saying is that it is impossible that any oppression exists, purely based on his own achievements.
    Look at what I have achieved, therefore racism and oppression dont exist.
    The exception proves the rule, and he is certainly an exception.

    It has nothing to do with black people distrusting doctors as you suggested earlier.

    If you took UK stop and search as an example.
    The number that are carried out on black people are 9 times the number carried out on white people.
    That is a fact.
    You could debate the cause of this, but the figures are a fact.
    It would therefore be idiotic to produce one black person who had never been stopped and searched, and use him as a means to dispute that this is a problem.

    I think the guy could have made a completely different speech.
    One that encouraged black youngsters to follow in his footsteps despite coming from a disadvantaged background.
    And encouraging them, rather than just bragging about his own achievements.
  • chillingchilling Member Posts: 3,774
    HAYSIE said:

    chilling said:

    HAYSIE said:

    chilling said:

    Many African Americans distrust the physicians, and do their best to avoid hospitals.
    It’s not only due to the cost.
    So, I’d presume from birth, there would be no great calling.

    Dont you think the argument he is putting forward is equivalent to Marcus Rashford arguing that black people cant be oppressed because he is a PL footballer, and earns millions.
    Can’t see any comparison.
    You could say that about any proffesion.
    Do you think only black skinned folks may suffer from oppression or discrimination?
    It has nothing to do with your background,where you attended school or lived?
    I’d have thought it was about securing funding to attend UNI?
    The doctors in my health centre are mostly Indian.
    Most likely encouraged by their parents,or following their parents into the profession.

    Best do a poll with black youngsters in the US, and ask them what they want to become.
    I’d doubt joining the medical profession would be in the top ten.
    Critical Race Theory is not my strong point, but I’ll use the common sense approach.
    Did you even watch he video?

    The message I got was that the guy was saying is that it is impossible that any oppression exists, purely based on his own achievements.
    Look at what I have achieved, therefore racism and oppression dont exist.
    The exception proves the rule, and he is certainly an exception.

    It has nothing to do with black people distrusting doctors as you suggested earlier.

    If you took UK stop and search as an example.
    The number that are carried out on black people are 9 times the number carried out on white people.
    That is a fact.
    You could debate the cause of this, but the figures are a fact.
    It would therefore be idiotic to produce one black person who had never been stopped and searched, and use him as a means to dispute that this is a problem.

    I think the guy could have made a completely different speech.
    One that encouraged black youngsters to follow in his footsteps despite coming from a disadvantaged background.
    And encouraging them, rather than just bragging about his own achievements.
    How on earth can he be the exception?
    In your own post about why are black doctors so scarce in America,it states the percentages, quite clearly.

    Give me the reason why there are not more black folk joining the medical profession then.
    They don’t get the schooling,grades or funding?

    This particular chap seems to have made a big effort.
  • chillingchilling Member Posts: 3,774
    What has stop and search got to do with this?

    Some schools in London,and probably elsewhere,have entirely or nearly all black or Asian pupils.
    Do you think they get taught differently?
    If you think black or Asian kids don’t go to private schools,you would be wrong.
  • chillingchilling Member Posts: 3,774
    edited June 2021
    HAYSIE said:

    chilling said:

    HAYSIE said:

    chilling said:

    Many African Americans distrust the physicians, and do their best to avoid hospitals.
    It’s not only due to the cost.
    So, I’d presume from birth, there would be no great calling.

    Dont you think the argument he is putting forward is equivalent to Marcus Rashford arguing that black people cant be oppressed because he is a PL footballer, and earns millions.
    Can’t see any comparison.
    You could say that about any proffesion.
    Do you think only black skinned folks may suffer from oppression or discrimination?
    It has nothing to do with your background,where you attended school or lived?
    I’d have thought it was about securing funding to attend UNI?
    The doctors in my health centre are mostly Indian.
    Most likely encouraged by their parents,or following their parents into the profession.

    Best do a poll with black youngsters in the US, and ask them what they want to become.
    I’d doubt joining the medical profession would be in the top ten.
    Critical Race Theory is not my strong point, but I’ll use the common sense approach.
    Did you even watch he video?

    The message I got was that the guy was saying is that it is impossible that any oppression exists, purely based on his own achievements.
    Look at what I have achieved, therefore racism and oppression dont exist.
    The exception proves the rule, and he is certainly an exception.

    It has nothing to do with black people distrusting doctors as you suggested earlier.

    If you took UK stop and search as an example.
    The number that are carried out on black people are 9 times the number carried out on white people.
    That is a fact.
    You could debate the cause of this, but the figures are a fact.
    It would therefore be idiotic to produce one black person who had never been stopped and searched, and use him as a means to dispute that this is a problem.

    I think the guy could have made a completely different speech.
    One that encouraged black youngsters to follow in his footsteps despite coming from a disadvantaged background.
    And encouraging them, rather than just bragging about his own achievements.















    I’m not quite sure what you think each country should be doing , or for what reason.
    Is it just to change the percentages around a touch?

    ‘ Bragging?’ All lefties need an enemy.

  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,862
    chilling said:

    What has stop and search got to do with this?

    Some schools in London,and probably elsewhere,have entirely or nearly all black or Asian pupils.
    Do you think they get taught differently?
    If you think black or Asian kids don’t go to private schools,you would be wrong.

    I am going to try one last time.

    One person can never, ever, prove a rule.
  • chillingchilling Member Posts: 3,774
    HAYSIE said:

    chilling said:

    What has stop and search got to do with this?

    Some schools in London,and probably elsewhere,have entirely or nearly all black or Asian pupils.
    Do you think they get taught differently?
    If you think black or Asian kids don’t go to private schools,you would be wrong.

    I am going to try one last time.

    One person can never, ever, prove a rule.
    You’re going to try one last time? TFFT.

    ‘ One Person?’ So the other 3% are privileged black then? Or they battled through oppression?
    That 3% never got their heads down and worked hard?
    Your ‘ interpretation’ is your choice.
    I can see this chap in the vid has gotten right under your skin, which is very sad.
    His narrative is one you don’t like to see broadcasted, I presume.
    His view doesn’t matter at all.
    Have you cancelled him?

    I don’t see the need to post further on this, but you post away.
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