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Record 430 migrants cross Channel in single day: Four Sudanese asylum seekers in paddle boat are among the hundreds of men, women and children who reached UK yesterday in biggest ever landfall



NEW A group of more than 40 people, including women and young children, were seen walking ashore after one beach landing on the Kent coast yesterday, while another 50 migrants arrived elsewhere.


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9805277/Record-430-migrants-cross-Channel-single-day.html
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  • VespaPXVespaPX Member Posts: 12,404
    Hope they've got their Covid passports
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,862
    French warship ushers 13 migrants in an overcrowded boat into British waters before leaving them with baffled GMB news crew - hours after record 430 migrants crossed Channel in a single DAY

    https://video.dailymail.co.uk/preview/mol/2021/07/20/6140126122047290290/964x580_MP4_6140126122047290290.mp4

    A group of 13 migrants in a dangerously overcrowded boat has been filmed crossing the English Channel this morning after a French warship escorted them part of the way, as more than 430 landed in the UK yesterday in a new single-day record amid flat seas and clear skies. Good Morning Britain journalist Pip Tomson told ITV viewers that the dinghy, which is made for just six passengers, was escorted by a French warship to the border before it left, apparently thinking that the team of reporters would then escort the migrants back to the UK. Ms Tomson said GMB alerted Border Force to the small boat, but agreed to 'observe' the migrants because UK officials were so busy handling other crossings this morning. Around 20 minutes later, a Border Force jet-ski was filmed escorting the dinghy to the English coastline. It is thought that hundreds of migrants will be making the treacherous journey by boat from Continental Europe today after at least 430 migrants sailed across the Channel yesterday in a new single-day record.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9805277/Record-430-migrants-cross-Channel-single-day.html
  • RinkhalsRinkhals Member Posts: 212
    Why aren't they beinb sent back to France?
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,862
    Rinkhals said:

    Why aren't they beinb sent back to France?

    This has been going on for ages.
    The numbers are increasing.
    They dont seem to have a plan.
    The rules are that they are supposed to apply for asylum at the first safe country that they arrive at.
    This is obviously not happening.
    Although this rule would seem unfair in respect of some countries.
    The UK would rarely be the first safe country that any migrant arrives at.
    We should accept our fair share, and it should be controlled.
    Any agreement with France may be more difficult post Brexit.
  • hhyftrftdrhhyftrftdr Member Posts: 8,036
    HAYSIE said:

    Rinkhals said:

    Why aren't they beinb sent back to France?

    This has been going on for ages.
    The numbers are increasing.
    They dont seem to have a plan.
    The rules are that they are supposed to apply for asylum at the first safe country that they arrive at.
    This is obviously not happening.
    Although this rule would seem unfair in respect of some countries.
    The UK would rarely be the first safe country that any migrant arrives at.
    We should accept our fair share, and it should be controlled.
    Any agreement with France may be more difficult post Brexit.
    Bit in bold isn't correct.

    The irony is that anyone who voted for Brexit thinking it would enable our borders to be more controlled...well, we are not part of the Dublin convention anymore, so whereas we could 'send them back' before, now we can't.

    Biggest issue appears to be that people can't apply for asylum unless physically in Britain. There are no proper channels to enable this from abroad anymore.
  • VespaPXVespaPX Member Posts: 12,404
    When your claim might not be considered

    Your claim might not be considered if you:

    are from an EU country
    travelled to the UK through a ‘safe third country’
    have a connection to a safe third country where you could claim asylum

    Generally, a safe third country is one that:

    you’re not a citizen of
    you would not be harmed in
    would not send you on to another country where you would be harmed

    https://www.gov.uk/claim-asylum/eligibility
  • hhyftrftdrhhyftrftdr Member Posts: 8,036
    VespaPX said:

    When your claim might not be considered

    Your claim might not be considered if you:

    are from an EU country
    travelled to the UK through a ‘safe third country’
    have a connection to a safe third country where you could claim asylum

    Generally, a safe third country is one that:

    you’re not a citizen of
    you would not be harmed in
    would not send you on to another country where you would be harmed

    https://www.gov.uk/claim-asylum/eligibility

    Exactly.

    There are no rules saying you are supposed to claim asylum in the first safe country you arrive at.

    https://fullfact.org/immigration/refugees-first-safe-country/
  • hhyftrftdrhhyftrftdr Member Posts: 8,036
    Rinkhals said:

    Why aren't they beinb sent back to France?

    On what basis should they be sent back to France?
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,862

    HAYSIE said:

    Rinkhals said:

    Why aren't they beinb sent back to France?

    This has been going on for ages.
    The numbers are increasing.
    They dont seem to have a plan.
    The rules are that they are supposed to apply for asylum at the first safe country that they arrive at.
    This is obviously not happening.
    Although this rule would seem unfair in respect of some countries.
    The UK would rarely be the first safe country that any migrant arrives at.
    We should accept our fair share, and it should be controlled.
    Any agreement with France may be more difficult post Brexit.
    Bit in bold isn't correct.

    The irony is that anyone who voted for Brexit thinking it would enable our borders to be more controlled...well, we are not part of the Dublin convention anymore, so whereas we could 'send them back' before, now we can't.

    Biggest issue appears to be that people can't apply for asylum unless physically in Britain. There are no proper channels to enable this from abroad anymore.
    Asylum seeker should be brought back to UK from France by Home Office, High Court rules
    There was "objective evidence" the man had been trafficked and was entitled to assistance and support while in Britain.




    An asylum seeker deported due to an "illegal and secret" Home Office policy should return to Britain, the High Court has ruled.

    The Sudanese national, a man identified as AA, sought refuge in the UK in June 2020 after fleeing to escape torture and persecution in his homeland.

    He claimed he was later enslaved and tortured in Libya while travelling to France - where his claim for asylum was rejected.

    Mr Justice Wall said: "Had the claimant been identified as a potential victim of modern slavery, he could not have been removed from the United Kingdom until the process of investigating that issue was complete.

    "He would also have been entitled to assistance and support while in this country… However, the failure to refer him led to a removal of the claimant to France. It ended this country's responsibility for him."

    https://news.sky.com/story/home-office-used-secret-and-illegal-policy-to-deport-asylum-seeker-fleeing-persecution-in-sudan-12350202
  • RinkhalsRinkhals Member Posts: 212
    @hhyftrftdr on the basis that they rowed across the channel from there and last time I checked France is a safe country.

    How about you stop going oooo poor ecomomic migrants and start going, yep, deport them for entering the country ilegally.
  • hhyftrftdrhhyftrftdr Member Posts: 8,036
    Rinkhals said:

    @hhyftrftdr on the basis that they rowed across the channel from there and last time I checked France is a safe country.

    How about you stop going oooo poor ecomomic migrants and start going, yep, deport them for entering the country ilegally.

    Did you vote for Brexit?

    Because if you did, you actively voted against being able to ''send them back''.

    How about you do a bit of reading up regarding the ways people can legally claim asylum in Britain (plot twist, there are none without being physically here), and stop stroking yourself over Nigel Farage's refugee videos.
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,862

    HAYSIE said:

    Rinkhals said:

    Why aren't they beinb sent back to France?

    This has been going on for ages.
    The numbers are increasing.
    They dont seem to have a plan.
    The rules are that they are supposed to apply for asylum at the first safe country that they arrive at.
    This is obviously not happening.
    Although this rule would seem unfair in respect of some countries.
    The UK would rarely be the first safe country that any migrant arrives at.
    We should accept our fair share, and it should be controlled.
    Any agreement with France may be more difficult post Brexit.
    Bit in bold isn't correct.

    The irony is that anyone who voted for Brexit thinking it would enable our borders to be more controlled...well, we are not part of the Dublin convention anymore, so whereas we could 'send them back' before, now we can't.

    Biggest issue appears to be that people can't apply for asylum unless physically in Britain. There are no proper channels to enable this from abroad anymore.
    That bit obviously still applies within EU.
    They have talked about more security on their internal borders, which may slow the number crossing borders down.
    Although I am not sure how much of an effect this would have, as I expect some of the countries are only too glad to see asylum seekers exiting their border, and passing the responsibility for them onto another country.
    The Dublin Regulation would seem fairer to some countries than others, as the number of arriving asylum seekers are not evenly spread amongst the member states.
    Some of the member states are more touchy over their borders than others.
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,862

    Rinkhals said:

    @hhyftrftdr on the basis that they rowed across the channel from there and last time I checked France is a safe country.

    How about you stop going oooo poor ecomomic migrants and start going, yep, deport them for entering the country ilegally.

    Did you vote for Brexit?

    Because if you did, you actively voted against being able to ''send them back''.

    How about you do a bit of reading up regarding the ways people can legally claim asylum in Britain (plot twist, there are none without being physically here), and stop stroking yourself over Nigel Farage's refugee videos.
    I am not very clear on this, and the article above would seem to confirm the following.

    1 We are deporting asylum seekers to France.
    2 France would seem to have different rules from us.
    3 Our Home Office is very slippery.
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,862
    greenworld.org.uk › article › why-are-migrants-coming-ukWhy are migrants coming to the UK? | Green World
    13/08/2020 · France received 143,000 asylum applications in 2019, while that same year the UK received under 35,000. These figures have been more or less constant for the past five years, so we
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,862
    UK to ban asylum for refugees who've been through France in Tory clampdown
    New plans to overhaul the asylum system to deter people from making the perilous Channel crossing have been set out in the Queen's Speech




    Tough new laws will prevent asylum seekers coming from countries like France to seek refuge in Britain.

    New legislation in the Queen's Speech aims to deter desperate people from crossing the Channel by banning people from claiming asylum in the UK if they have already travelled through safe countries like France and Belgium.

    Some 8,500 people arrived in the UK from Europe last year, making the perilous Channel crossing in small boats - with three times as many estimated this year compared with the same period in 2020.

    Under a New Plan for Immigration Legislation, Boris Johnson will bring in more draconian rules around claiming asylum in the UK.

    People's asylum claims will be judged on whether they arrived in the UK legally or illegally for the first time.


    https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/uk-ban-asylum-refugees-whove-24083366
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,862
    Where are asylum seekers ending up?
    Germany, in a lot of cases. It accounted for 440,000 of the EU’s 1.25 million new asylum applicants last year from outside the EU. The UK recorded around 40,000 applications, the ninth highest in the EU.

    Hungary recorded the second largest number of new asylum applications (170,000), just ahead of Sweden (160,000). That puts those two countries top of the list for asylum applications per head of population in 2015.









    https://fullfact.org/immigration/asylum-seekers-uk-and-europe/
  • hhyftrftdrhhyftrftdr Member Posts: 8,036
    All lives matter?


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  • VespaPXVespaPX Member Posts: 12,404
    Probably claim he's only 14

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