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Trump, doing what Trump does

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  • goldongoldon Member Posts: 9,061
    One Persons View is another Persons Poison. !
  • EssexphilEssexphil Member Posts: 8,780
    goldon said:

    One Persons View is another Persons Poison. !

    To some extent , that is true. But it is more than that.

    There are some things Trump did which I detested because of my politics. His belief in relation to MAGA (great slogan, by the way). His racism. His sexism. His appalling attitude towards the poor. That's mostly standard stuff.

    But-it goes beyond that. He is a 75-year-old man who behaves like a 5-year-old. His appalling disloyalty to his political supporters. His unshakeable belief that if something went right it was because of Donald Trump. And if it went wrong, to fire blame and ridicule the person who was loyal to him. On a scale never seen before. A deeply disloyal man.

    For not seeing the irony that, having luckily won a close election in 2016 with 3 million less votes, **** and whining like the child he is when he lost the 2020 election by 7 million votes. For lacking any sort of humility in defeat.

    There have been many great right-wing Presidents. Done things I might not personally agree with, but done them well. Trump? History will make even Biden look good in comparison.
  • hhyftrftdrhhyftrftdr Member Posts: 8,036
    chilling said:

    Tikay10 said:

    chilling said:

    Losing faith in humanity?

    How about the sheep that want to go for as many jabs as are recommended, all ages, without looking at any facts out there.
    Jeez.


    I have certainly taken all the jabs I've been offered so far. How can you possibly know whether I first checked the facts?
    Facts that stated there was always a 99.8% chance of recovery.
    That there has always been treatment, although that seems to get overlooked as a conspiracy.
    That was put up last May 2020, but was silenced. 6 months before the first vaccine.
    The fact that the WHO were saying every single person on earth needs a shot, months before a vaccine was allowed for use. With the recovery rate constantly published,never changing.Children not hospitalised or even ill.
    Changing the definition of a pandemic to suit.
    Folks not dropping dead in the street as was seen in China.

    I’m referring to the whole population in general, you will have your own facts to influence your decision. I never singled out any particular individual.

    Facts/ stats are there to be viewed by all, but none lead to the whole world needing jab after jab.

    If you believe that to be untrue,then show me the evidence.








    99.8% chance of recovery you say.

    Is that a blanket figure across all ages or does a 20 year old have a much better chance of recovery than an 80 year old, for example?

    https://fullfact.org/online/covid-19-survival-rate-less-998/
  • VespaPXVespaPX Member Posts: 12,404
    Essexphil said:

    VespaPX said:

    Trump still living rent free.
    Haven't seen one positive comment about Biden since he took office.

    Ok. Here's one.

    At least he is not Trump.
    And there it is.
    Can't find anything without mentioning Trump.
  • Jac35Jac35 Member Posts: 6,491
    VespaPX said:

    Essexphil said:

    VespaPX said:

    Trump still living rent free.
    Haven't seen one positive comment about Biden since he took office.

    Ok. Here's one.

    At least he is not Trump.
    And there it is.
    Can't find anything without mentioning Trump.
    What in your view made Trump a good President?
  • VespaPXVespaPX Member Posts: 12,404
    Jac35 said:

    VespaPX said:

    Essexphil said:

    VespaPX said:

    Trump still living rent free.
    Haven't seen one positive comment about Biden since he took office.

    Ok. Here's one.

    At least he is not Trump.
    And there it is.
    Can't find anything without mentioning Trump.
    What in your view made Trump a good President?
    This is a good one:
    https://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/energy-independence-trump/

    Relative peace in the Middle East (multiple Arab countries signing peace deals with Israel).
    Reigned in N Korea.
    Stood up to China.
    No new wars, reduction in existing ones.
    The First Step Act.
    Clamp down on trafficking (human and drugs) on the Southern Border.

    Some others:
    https://www.worldhistoryedu.com/donald-trump-achievement/
  • VespaPXVespaPX Member Posts: 12,404
    Now do Biden without mentioning Trump.
  • chillingchilling Member Posts: 3,774

    chilling said:

    Tikay10 said:

    chilling said:

    Losing faith in humanity?

    How about the sheep that want to go for as many jabs as are recommended, all ages, without looking at any facts out there.
    Jeez.


    I have certainly taken all the jabs I've been offered so far. How can you possibly know whether I first checked the facts?
    Facts that stated there was always a 99.8% chance of recovery.
    That there has always been treatment, although that seems to get overlooked as a conspiracy.
    That was put up last May 2020, but was silenced. 6 months before the first vaccine.
    The fact that the WHO were saying every single person on earth needs a shot, months before a vaccine was allowed for use. With the recovery rate constantly published,never changing.Children not hospitalised or even ill.
    Changing the definition of a pandemic to suit.
    Folks not dropping dead in the street as was seen in China.

    I’m referring to the whole population in general, you will have your own facts to influence your decision. I never singled out any particular individual.

    Facts/ stats are there to be viewed by all, but none lead to the whole world needing jab after jab.

    If you believe that to be untrue,then show me the evidence.








    99.8% chance of recovery you say.

    Is that a blanket figure across all ages or does a 20 year old have a much better chance of recovery than an 80 year old, for example?

    https://fullfact.org/online/covid-19-survival-rate-less-998/
    You clown.

    All the fact checkers are paid up members, which is proven time after time when their fact checking gets proven to be incorrect.
    It must be difficult for them though,as the guiding lights keep changing their tosh.

    Don’t forget Chris Whitty says most people would only get mild disease if they caught it at all.
    He also added that even most elderly wouldn’t die from catching it. Presenting your the expert.

    Maybe somebody might be able to answer this question,as hhyf always goes silent.

    Tony most likely informed himself or was advised before receiving his shots.
    Unfortunately, Tony won’t be representative for 7billion.
    As VespaPX has highlighted, the reasons for folks taking an experimental jab are **** s poor.

    Holidays? Because the government ask me to?I want to be allowed to go here or there?
    I’ve a mate that said it keeps her indoors happy.

    Question time.
    It’s quite apparent from the off that folks weren’t well informed .
    Just line up with the others when called.

    So, informed consent.
    I very much doubt folks going for the first experimental jab were informed of all the possible side effects. Even if they were, more side effects were added,one after the other, this was after millions had received their first shot.
    So is it a rolling informed consent?
    Trust the science, no need for Vaers.



  • chillingchilling Member Posts: 3,774











    99.8% chance of recovery you say.

    Is that a blanket figure across all ages or does a 20 year old have a much better chance of recovery than an 80 year old, for example?

    https://fullfact.org/online/covid-19-survival-rate-less-998/

    I’d say this was a fairly accurate summing up.



  • hhyftrftdrhhyftrftdr Member Posts: 8,036
    So the survival rates for both an 80 year old and a 20 year old are 99.8%, yes?
  • Jac35Jac35 Member Posts: 6,491

    So the survival rates for both an 80 year old and a 20 year old are 99.8%, yes?

    50/50
  • hhyftrftdrhhyftrftdr Member Posts: 8,036
    Jac35 said:

    So the survival rates for both an 80 year old and a 20 year old are 99.8%, yes?

    50/50
    It's true tbf.

    If you get Covid, you live or you die. Doesn't get more 50/50 than that.

    The Chilling logic in action.
  • chillingchilling Member Posts: 3,774

    So the survival rates for both an 80 year old and a 20 year old are 99.8%, yes?

    The current survival rate at any one time will differ slightly, which is obvious.

    The killer has been the protocol.

  • hhyftrftdrhhyftrftdr Member Posts: 8,036
    chilling said:

    So the survival rates for both an 80 year old and a 20 year old are 99.8%, yes?

    The current survival rate at any one time will differ slightly, which is obvious.

    The killer has been the protocol.

    So the survival rate isn't 99.8% then?
  • chillingchilling Member Posts: 3,774

    Jac35 said:

    So the survival rates for both an 80 year old and a 20 year old are 99.8%, yes?

    50/50
    It's true tbf.

    If you get Covid, you live or you die. Doesn't get more 50/50 than that.

    The Chilling logic in action.
    You need to keep your fingers crossed, after what I’ve found out this morning.

    You cant understand anything.
    Like if you put a win bet on. You either win or lose.50-50. Right or wrong.
    The odds are for the layer.

    I bet your workings will indicate a 3-1 shot will always finish in front of a 10-1 shot.
    It doesn’t matter if there’s two runners or twenty two runners for the sake of a bet.
  • hhyftrftdrhhyftrftdr Member Posts: 8,036
    chilling said:

    Jac35 said:

    So the survival rates for both an 80 year old and a 20 year old are 99.8%, yes?

    50/50
    It's true tbf.

    If you get Covid, you live or you die. Doesn't get more 50/50 than that.

    The Chilling logic in action.
    You need to keep your fingers crossed, after what I’ve found out this morning.

    You cant understand anything.
    Like if you put a win bet on. You either win or lose.50-50. Right or wrong.
    The odds are for the layer.

    I bet your workings will indicate a 3-1 shot will always finish in front of a 10-1 shot.
    It doesn’t matter if there’s two runners or twenty two runners for the sake of a bet.
    Can anyone dissect this gibberish?
  • chillingchilling Member Posts: 3,774

    chilling said:

    Jac35 said:

    So the survival rates for both an 80 year old and a 20 year old are 99.8%, yes?

    50/50
    It's true tbf.

    If you get Covid, you live or you die. Doesn't get more 50/50 than that.

    The Chilling logic in action.
    You need to keep your fingers crossed, after what I’ve found out this morning.

    You cant understand anything.
    Like if you put a win bet on. You either win or lose.50-50. Right or wrong.
    The odds are for the layer.

    I bet your workings will indicate a 3-1 shot will always finish in front of a 10-1 shot.
    It doesn’t matter if there’s two runners or twenty two runners for the sake of a bet.
    Can anyone dissect this gibberish?
    The top line is regarding the shots, if that helps.
  • chillingchilling Member Posts: 3,774

    Jac35 said:

    So the survival rates for both an 80 year old and a 20 year old are 99.8%, yes?

    50/50
    It's true tbf.

    If you get Covid, you live or you die. Doesn't get more 50/50 than that.

    The Chilling logic in action.
    How would you work out your chances of winning a poker tourney?
    By the amount of runners?
  • hhyftrftdrhhyftrftdr Member Posts: 8,036
    chilling said:

    Jac35 said:

    So the survival rates for both an 80 year old and a 20 year old are 99.8%, yes?

    50/50
    It's true tbf.

    If you get Covid, you live or you die. Doesn't get more 50/50 than that.

    The Chilling logic in action.
    How would you work out your chances of winning a poker tourney?
    By the amount of runners?
    50/50 innit.

    You either win it or you don't.
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