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Ripping Up The Rule Book
FORDAKIDZ
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When we sit down and play, we call the floor with a problem and the TD comes and makes a ruling as per TD rules..End of problem.
My understanding of the safety car rules is that ALL lapped cars can unlap themseleves, the floor was called and the TD ( who obv is making decisions for the TV audience for the past few weeks ) bends the rules and only lets a few cars through.
If they all come through, GP ends under the safety car.
10 seconds advantage down to nothing and probably the worst bad beat ever taken by anyone.
We might not have heard the last of this.
My understanding of the safety car rules is that ALL lapped cars can unlap themseleves, the floor was called and the TD ( who obv is making decisions for the TV audience for the past few weeks ) bends the rules and only lets a few cars through.
If they all come through, GP ends under the safety car.
10 seconds advantage down to nothing and probably the worst bad beat ever taken by anyone.
We might not have heard the last of this.
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1. Lap 1 overtake/Lewis cutting the corner.
Decision was totally wrong. Fair overtake by Verstappen, Hamilton cuts a massive corner. Totally clear that Hamilton should have been made to give the place back. Suspect that, once the officials realised how terrible that decision was, they went for the "2 wrongs make a right" strategy
2. Penultimate lap under the safety car. The options according to the rules are:-
A. Allow all lapped cars to unlap themselves and get to the back of the train before the start of the last lap (no time for this);
B. If A is not possible, then continue under the safety car for the last lap, unless the Race Director thinks there is a more equitable way;
C. It was being considered that the Director might just allow the race to be driven under race conditions, but it was felt that, by the time Verstappen had passed the 5 cars, Hamilton would win;
D. By the time a decision was made to allow lapped cars to pass without having time to join the train, there were only seconds to the end of the lap-there would still have been cars between Hamilton and Verstappen (the ones currently behind Verstappen)-Hamilton would win; so
E. Allow the cars behind Hamilton to pass, but do not allow the cars behind Verstappen to pass, because, according to the Race Director "that's motor racing"
Exciting to watch. But 2 terrible decisions, the 2nd even worse than the first.
I don't like Hamilton. But he was robbed there.
I think the decision not to penalise Lewis on turn 6 was completely wrong and I also understand people being upset by the last lap decision, but, for Formula 1, I think it was the right decision. To have the year finish under a safety car after they had both fought so hard would have been a travesty.
I appreciate it is all a matter of opinion. That may well have been the best decision for F1 on that particular day, but (IMO) not for the future of the sport.
We all look back fondly at when sport was supposedly non-commercialised (it always has been, just not as much as today) but, for sport to survive it needs to attract the big investors.
Let's put F1 in perspective. I remember Roman Abramovich being interviewed about all the money he has pumped into Chelsea, and whether he wished he had picked a cheaper sport. He replied that his annual spend at Chelsea was less than 10% of Ferrari in F1.
Red Bull do a great job of playing the minnow bit. Their budget? A secret. But believed to be about $500,000,000 per annum. And even that is less than Mercedes or Ferrari.
Try telling someone putting in those numbers that the rules can be torn up for an exciting race.
Man City won the title by 12 points last year. The last day would have been more exciting if the referees had decided to dock them 12 points before the last game. But it would not have been right.
They may think decisions like this will attract the audiences, i disagree, it will have the opposite affect on the die hard F1 fans who have been used to consistant rulings, and maybe will think, whats the point in watching, some race director will make a stupid call which has happened on several occasions this year and suddenly the winner is third or some other BS,
Not sure if Mercedes will take this to a real court, probably not worth it for the negative spin that would come their way but, lets face it, if the F1 court can find Ferrari guilty of cheating with their engine systems last year but refuse to give any other details on the matter, what chance have Mercedes got appealing to the same body ?
Just would have loved to see a British undisputed GOAT.
Thanks always to @Essexphil for your professional and personal insites and comments, i am quite proud one of my posts attracted a response from you Sir
Lawyers dictate policy
Computers dictate telemetry.
Engineers dictate performance
PR sells the illusion
Drivers no longer win races, they are won by men in suits deciding whether this teams new development is legal or how many parts we can use or what tyres you have to run on etc.
All the time the driver is getting more information than your average airline pilot allowing mid race changes in settings etc. ITS ALL BO*****S.
Oh for the good old days when a Michelin shod Sauber would battle a Goodyear tyred Lotus and decisions taken by the drivers really won races.
As for Lewis and Mercedes, did they get shafted? Absolutely, but you can't set a precedent by getting a result overturned days after the event otherwise sport (NOT THAT F1 is a sport) may as well cease.
Every football, rugby, cricket fan knows the anger and frustration of being denied a win due to an erroneous decision. It's part of sport, suck it up and move on.
Now MOTO GP or WSB on the other hand, real racing, real sport.
Tin Hat on awaiting the incoming flak.
I get where you are coming from Mark, & agree with some of that.
Definitely agree - 100% - as to Moto GP though. If I could only watch F1 or Moto GP it'd be Moto GP every time. Those boys are seriously fast & amazingly brave. Nothing beats the sight of those boys drifting through a corner at 140+ mph.