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RNG question
TheSaw
Member Posts: 76
in Poker Chat
No, not any kind of ‘conspiracy theory’ or ‘the deck is rigged’ thread, just a genuine question, asked out of curiosity, that’s intrigued me for a while and come to mind again following a recent hand.
Playing the 8pm main a few days ago. 8 players remaining. I’m in the BB and dealt 2 playable cards. UTG shorty decides its shove time, the tourney chip leader just calls from the button and the SB shorty also goes allin. I’d have called the 2 short stack shoves but I didn’t want to tangle with the chip leader out of position, so I reluctantly got out of the way.
Chip leader had AQ, he didn’t improve, so I believe he would have checked it down to the river, which (had I called pre) would have given me the nuts and a stack on a par with the leader. Absolutely nothing new there I know. Every poker player has 1000’s of those ‘if only’ moments.
But it just got me thinking. In live poker, the flop, turn and river are all pre determined once the deck has been cut. We can say with absolute certainty – “this is what I would have hit”. Is the same true in online poker? – is the run out already fixed after the hole cards have been dealt? - or is the RNG constantly ‘whirring away’ with the remaining cards in the deck until they are dealt in the middle? In other words, if I’d taken a split second longer to find a ‘call’ rather than a ‘fold’, would that in turn have produced a completely different set of community cards and therefore we can never truly beat ourselves up over what might have been?
Playing the 8pm main a few days ago. 8 players remaining. I’m in the BB and dealt 2 playable cards. UTG shorty decides its shove time, the tourney chip leader just calls from the button and the SB shorty also goes allin. I’d have called the 2 short stack shoves but I didn’t want to tangle with the chip leader out of position, so I reluctantly got out of the way.
Chip leader had AQ, he didn’t improve, so I believe he would have checked it down to the river, which (had I called pre) would have given me the nuts and a stack on a par with the leader. Absolutely nothing new there I know. Every poker player has 1000’s of those ‘if only’ moments.
But it just got me thinking. In live poker, the flop, turn and river are all pre determined once the deck has been cut. We can say with absolute certainty – “this is what I would have hit”. Is the same true in online poker? – is the run out already fixed after the hole cards have been dealt? - or is the RNG constantly ‘whirring away’ with the remaining cards in the deck until they are dealt in the middle? In other words, if I’d taken a split second longer to find a ‘call’ rather than a ‘fold’, would that in turn have produced a completely different set of community cards and therefore we can never truly beat ourselves up over what might have been?
Comments
If you beat yourself up about a bad runout and blame calling 3 seconds later than you wanted to then that's just a mental aspect of the game you need to work on. It's totally ridiculous to think such a thing, as I'm sure you're aware.
I think the answer was that the "deck" is shuffled just once before the hole cards are dealt.
The timing of any further cards is irrelevant.
I'm not 100% sure, but I believe that was the reply.
Maybe someone else can confirm (or not).
My chips would have been in the middle quicker than a fly on $hit
Unlike the first 2 responders who did not grasp (or chose to ignore?) the sentiment in which the original post was written.