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did u love the rugby

legascaaclegascaac Member Posts: 197
edited February 2022 in Sports & Betting Chat
20 - 17 come on 55 million and a what rugby team ha hahahaha

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  • HENDRIK62HENDRIK62 Member Posts: 3,202
    what does this even mean?
  • EssexphilEssexphil Member Posts: 8,772
    It means that Scotland beat England at Rugby Union, even though England has a population of 55 million.

    As an Englishman who has lived in Scotland, I get how important it is for you to beat your bigger neighbour. Enjoy the win.

    But I would not get carried away. Firstly, that was a full strength Scottish team. At home. Against a severely depleted English team.

    Second, on the evidence of last year, I genuinely believed that, for the first time in 15-20 years, Scotland had a really good Rugby team. I still do-but not today.

    Today? I expected Scotland to win. What I did not expect was for England to be the dominant side throughout. Scotland had 3 attacks the whole game, and spent the rest of it hanging on. Apart from the Back Row, Scotland looked a shadow of last year's team. I thought England played much better than I expected. And Scotland much worse. Scotland will play better than that and lose in the future.

    I'm more optimistic about England's chances at the next World Cup than I was before this game.
  • VespaPXVespaPX Member Posts: 12,396
    Sweaty Socks getting carried away
  • gregkdy82gregkdy82 Member Posts: 530
    Essexphil said:


    As an Englishman who has lived in Scotland, I get how important it is for you to beat your bigger neighbour. Enjoy the win.

    At football and other decent sports maybe. No one in Scotland really cares about egg chasing except posh wee private schoolboys and big lumbering idiots who can't kick a proper ball. The rest of us just think it's a good laugh that yous can't even beat us at your own daft wee games anymore. :)
  • legascaaclegascaac Member Posts: 197
    ur bang right Phil we just took our chances
  • EssexphilEssexphil Member Posts: 8,772
    legascaac said:

    ur bang right Phil we just took our chances

    You did. Looked good when you had the ball.

    "No one in Scotland really cares about egg chasing except posh wee private schoolboys"?

    I wouldn't recommend saying that to my brother-in-law or his family. Or indeed anyone from Hawick ;). It's only in the Central Belt that it's for posh people.
  • CammykazeCammykaze Member Posts: 1,397
    Was speaking to a rugby fan yesterday about the game.

    He says the game was not a great spectacle. From what I understood prior to this tournament starting is that Scotland have a genuine chance of winning it. Is that right?

    Obviously great win yesterday, the English team looked like they had a few young players and viewing the 2nd half were the better team.
  • EssexphilEssexphil Member Posts: 8,772
    Cammykaze said:

    Was speaking to a rugby fan yesterday about the game.

    He says the game was not a great spectacle. From what I understood prior to this tournament starting is that Scotland have a genuine chance of winning it. Is that right?

    Obviously great win yesterday, the English team looked like they had a few young players and viewing the 2nd half were the better team.

    The first half was totally dominated by England-much more so than the 2nd half. But the English, while they dominated, rarely looked like scoring. Think Scotland were only in the English 22 once in the first half. But Scotland took what few chances they had well.

    Do Scotland have a chance? Yes. But an outside one. Fancy them to beat Wales/Italy. But suspect that Ireland and France will be the top 2.
  • spartathenspartathen Member Posts: 936
    Cammykaze said:

    Was speaking to a rugby fan yesterday about the game.

    He says the game was not a great spectacle. From what I understood prior to this tournament starting is that Scotland have a genuine chance of winning it. Is that right?

    Obviously great win yesterday, the English team looked like they had a few young players and viewing the 2nd half were the better team.

    Your friend is obviously a bitter englander as a comparative to the other game where it was a no contest one sided dominated affair,yes I am a remorseful Welshman,it was a epic contest right down to three minutes of extra time.
    As always with the oval ball game the referee ing is often crucial generally he got most things right including the penalty try.
    The new laws of drop out from behind the posts is a bit of an experiment especially whe the attacking team take the ball over the line and are held up then they now don’t get a five metre scrum the defensive team are rewarded by a drop out restart,a negative I believe and likely to change back.
    Can Scots win the championship well yesterday is there cup final I would hope the much changed wales team will offer something better next week,although yesterday did not suggest that.
    However I took 11/10 Scotland to win yesterday and they deserved to imo.
  • EnutEnut Member Posts: 3,518
    It was all my cousin's fault. He stupidly said 'I'm impressed by the discipline being shown by the England side, they have given away fewer penalties than much more seasoned England teams before'...............

    At exactly that moment we give away a penalty try and a sin binning!

    Agree with previous comments, Scotland not nearly as good as I expected and England much better and unlucky to lose.
  • EssexphilEssexphil Member Posts: 8,772



    Cammykaze said:

    Was speaking to a rugby fan yesterday about the game.

    He says the game was not a great spectacle. From what I understood prior to this tournament starting is that Scotland have a genuine chance of winning it. Is that right?

    Obviously great win yesterday, the English team looked like they had a few young players and viewing the 2nd half were the better team.

    Your friend is obviously a bitter englander as a comparative to the other game where it was a no contest one sided dominated affair,yes I am a remorseful Welshman,it was a epic contest right down to three minutes of extra time.
    As always with the oval ball game the referee ing is often crucial generally he got most things right including the penalty try.
    The new laws of drop out from behind the posts is a bit of an experiment especially whe the attacking team take the ball over the line and are held up then they now don’t get a five metre scrum the defensive team are rewarded by a drop out restart,a negative I believe and likely to change back.
    Can Scots win the championship well yesterday is there cup final I would hope the much changed wales team will offer something better next week,although yesterday did not suggest that.
    However I took 11/10 Scotland to win yesterday and they deserved to imo.
    I think the 2 games showed that England and Wales struggle when they are missing half their respective first teams.

    The big positive for me was that England showed their reserve forwards were up to the task. I'm unconvinced as to how good England's first choice backs are-but the reserves were (even) worse.

    Wales looked like they could not compete up front. We all know that a full strength Wales pack is a million times better than yesterday.

    The Scotland-England game was not high quality. But it was absorbing, and a good watch. The Penalty Try? Correct decision. The only thing I would say is that it seems harsh BOTH awarding a Penalty Try AND sin-binning the player. In football terms, that is like awarding a penalty and sending the player off. But the referee was right under current laws.

    The change away from the 5-metre scrum? That has always been a great thing to watch. It would have suited England yesterday. But perhaps it stops forward dominance being too important. Because, while England had nearly all the chances, they didn't often look like taking them. Van der Merwe looked more threatening than all the English backs combined.

    Wales will be better next week. But more a question of how many back/how much better.
  • legascaaclegascaac Member Posts: 197
    scotland did not play well england played better but missed farrell badly he makes them tick young boy at 10 for england looks a player and will only get better hes a prospect and will go on to be best 10 in world in next few years and we're only world class at 1 sport and only up north they play it might get a medal at winter games in china rugby in borders mainly all the farmers play am in central belt all football and standard is pish
  • spartathenspartathen Member Posts: 936
    Btw another new ridiculous law change first appearing in the France Italy encounter if a kick from within your own 50 metres goes into touch in oppositions 25 metres then the kickers team gets the throw in.
    This is surely going to lead to more set piece line outs,in theory a bomber of a full back could sit in his own half and just punt into the oppositions last quarter,can’t see how this encourages open running ball handling rugby.
  • TheEdge949TheEdge949 Member Posts: 5,686
    As somebody who has played, coached and refereed the game albeit at a moderate standard I see England as a stagnant force tbh. I called for Eddie Jones to step down after the last world cup as I firmly believe that he can't improve us past where we are and in my view we haven't evolved much over the last 10years.

    As far as Saturday goes, Scotland were Scotland. Hard, aggressive, in your face rugby, happy to play a disruptive style and very good at it.

    England meanwhile were England. Predictable and ponderous, we seemed almost brainwashed into smashing up the middle and became almost one dimensional.

    At the end of the day the three things that cost England were basic, community level rugby, errors.

    1, Luke Cowan-Dickie. Throwing the ball into touch, penalty try and a sin binning.

    2, Marcus Smith. Criminally missing touch in the corner with a penalty.

    3, England Backs missing tackle after tackle.

    The opening games leave it looking like its a straight shoot out between the French and the Irish. The way we played on Saturday I fear England could struggle to finish 3rd.
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