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UCL Final & Russia F1 GP

SidV79SidV79 Member Posts: 4,144
Both the above have been cancelled, with the UCL Final now taking place in Paris. The F1 GP, due for September 25, will no longer take place this year. Sebastian Vettel, Max Verstappen and Fernando Alonso all stated that they would boycott the race should it be allowed to go ahead. Meanwhile, Haas, whose major sponsors are a Russian company, have removed the sponsors name and also removed the blue and red livery (depicting the Russian flag) from it's car so it is now white only

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  • Tikay10Tikay10 Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 171,071

    @SidV79


    Will Mazepin still drive for Haas? He's a "pay-to-drive" sort, & the money is Russian as I understand it.

    Without that money, Haas would struggle.

    Quite the dilemma.

    Bit like Boris banning Russian money but accepting Russian donations to the Conservative Party.
  • SidV79SidV79 Member Posts: 4,144
    Tikay10 said:


    @SidV79


    Will Mazepin still drive for Haas? He's a "pay-to-drive" sort, & the money is Russian as I understand it.

    Without that money, Haas would struggle.

    Quite the dilemma.

    Bit like Boris banning Russian money but accepting Russian donations to the Conservative Party.

    As far as I am aware Nikita Mazepin will still be racing for Haas this season. An aside to this is that the report stated that his father is a major shareholder of the Russian sponsor, whose name has been removed from all Haas related livery
  • Tikay10Tikay10 Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 171,071
    SidV79 said:

    Tikay10 said:


    @SidV79


    Will Mazepin still drive for Haas? He's a "pay-to-drive" sort, & the money is Russian as I understand it.

    Without that money, Haas would struggle.

    Quite the dilemma.

    Bit like Boris banning Russian money but accepting Russian donations to the Conservative Party.

    As far as I am aware Nikita Mazepin will still be racing for Haas this season. An aside to this is that the report stated that his father is a major shareholder of the Russian sponsor, whose name has been removed from all Haas related livery
    @SidV79

    So he's still paying (for his son), but the logos have gone?
  • Tikay10Tikay10 Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 171,071

    @SidV79

    Never realised you were a F1 fan.

    Have you seen the porpoising?




    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QKSl7BmRD4s
  • SidV79SidV79 Member Posts: 4,144
    @Tikay10

    Been an F1 fan for as long as I can remember but had not seen any of the practice sessions as it's not being shown live this year. I am going to guess that the purpoising is because of the lack of downforce the cars now have under the new rules. As for Mazepin, Haas have not made a statement, up to now at least, but I am sure they will at some point. It would be very strange indeed if Mazepin (Snr) continued to finance the team and not get the expected advertising from it
  • TheEdge949TheEdge949 Member Posts: 5,713
    It's almost as though there is so much thrust to weight ratio that the thing is trying to get airborne.
    In fact were it not for the skirt creating a downforce, I would think the angle of attack (air striking a surface, usually a wing or fin) would be sufficient to flip the car front over back as lift is created.

    Back to the OP and will Russia now find it's club and National teams banned from competition. Certainly it would be distatseful for any European side to play in Russia.
  • Tikay10Tikay10 Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 171,071

    Here's one explanation of the cause of the porpoising;


    It results in the cars bouncing up and down on the suspension at the end of the long straights, and it has been something that almost every team has suffered from to a greater or lesser extent.

    The biggest factor here is that as the downforce builds, the car is effectively sucked closer to the track.

    This leads to flow separation at a certain point and, with downforce then being lost, the car's ride height will momentarily rise. The airflow will then reattach and the cycle begins again as the downforce builds quickly to the tipping point.

    The cyclic nature of this can obviously be broken very easily by running the car at a slightly higher ride height.




    From.....


    https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/how-porpoising-has-become-the-biggest-f1-2022-headache/8484824/
  • Tikay10Tikay10 Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 171,071
    SidV79 said:

    @Tikay10

    Been an F1 fan for as long as I can remember but had not seen any of the practice sessions as it's not being shown live this year. I am going to guess that the purpoising is because of the lack of downforce the cars now have under the new rules. As for Mazepin, Haas have not made a statement, up to now at least, but I am sure they will at some point. It would be very strange indeed if Mazepin (Snr) continued to finance the team and not get the expected advertising from it



    Yes, a very awkward situation for Haas. Be interesting to see how it pans out.

    Bit odd that Testing has not been televised this year, all I could find was Text Update, & from various F1 Forums.
  • SidV79SidV79 Member Posts: 4,144
    There has been a daily update (30 mins on Sky F1 channel) with Ted Kravitz doing his notebook on that day's sessions
  • Tikay10Tikay10 Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 171,071
    SidV79 said:

    There has been a daily update (30 mins on Sky F1 channel) with Ted Kravitz doing his notebook on that day's sessions

    @SidV79


    Ahh, I never knew that. Will have to go play with my RECORD button, I quite enjoy Ted.

    Thanks Andy.
  • SidV79SidV79 Member Posts: 4,144
    @Tikay10

    It is on at 5.30pm today
  • EssexphilEssexphil Member Posts: 8,846
    Best nickname in F1.

    Nikita Massive Spin.

    You'd need a lot of money to let him drive your Vauxhall Corsa ;)
  • Tikay10Tikay10 Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 171,071
    SidV79 said:

    @Tikay10

    It is on at 5.30pm today


    Whoops, missed it, but I'll find it on Catch Up later, thanks.
  • SidV79SidV79 Member Posts: 4,144
    Tikay10 said:

    SidV79 said:

    @Tikay10

    It is on at 5.30pm today


    Whoops, missed it, but I'll find it on Catch Up later, thanks.
    10.00am tomorrow for the re-run & 5.00 pm for the final day's notebook
  • Tikay10Tikay10 Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 171,071

    @SidV79


    Thanks Andy
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