England have won the world cup.

rabdeniro

According to the papers, other teams shouldn't bother turning up to the world cup just hand them the trophy now, they've worked out their path to final already, we can win this the usual suspects are squealing, ffs give us a break the madness has started already.

Essexphil

rabdeniro said:

According to the papers, other teams shouldn't bother turning up to the world cup just hand them the trophy now, they've worked out their path to final already, we can win this the usual suspects are squealing, ffs give us a break the madness has started already.

We have had a lucky Draw.

In the Group stage, going to be facing only 1 side with significant World Cup experience.

The USA

lucy4

Surely that's an omen...

Essexphil

England are 15/2 3rd favourites. Behind Brazil and France.

I think that is too short. Playing in Qatar is going to be very different to England. I prefer the claims of Spain and Argentina.

Group stage?

US 14th favourites, 100/1.
Wales 25th. 200/1
Ukraine 27th. 400/1.
Scotland 32nd. 500/1.
Iran. 33rd. 750/1.

Safe to say England have an easy group. On paper, at least.

I'd fancy Wales to beat Scotland in a one-off game. But Scotland to be the better team playing 3 games in 8 days. Because the best Welsh players are past their best, physically.

rabdeniro

Is this the excuses started already.

stokefc

rabdeniro said:

Is this the excuses started already.

So are we over confident or are we getting our excuses in early , i'm confused
I just want to win a tournament once in my life time but it'll probably never happen

Tikay10

stokefc said:

rabdeniro said:

Is this the excuses started already.

So are we over confident or are we getting our excuses in early , i'm confused
I just want to win a tournament once in my life time but it'll probably never happen

@stokefc

Are you forgetting 1966?

stokefc

@Tikay10
Hahaha born in 68

rabdeniro

Tikay10 said:

stokefc said:

rabdeniro said:

Is this the excuses started already.

So are we over confident or are we getting our excuses in early , i'm confused
I just want to win a tournament once in my life time but it'll probably never happen

@stokefc

Are you forgetting 1966?

Who could forget 1966 ?.

TheEdge949

I actually thought 78 was more memorable

rabdeniro

Was England there that year ?.

Essexphil

rabdeniro said:

Was England there that year ?.

No. Great goal by Gemmill.

24 years since Scotland have qualified for the World Cup.

vaigret

Essexphil said:

England are 15/2 3rd favourites. Behind Brazil and France.

I think that is too short. Playing in Qatar is going to be very different to England. I prefer the claims of Spain and Argentina.

Group stage?

US 14th favourites, 100/1.
Wales 25th. 200/1
Ukraine 27th. 400/1.
Scotland 32nd. 500/1.
Iran. 33rd. 750/1.

Safe to say England have an easy group. On paper, at least.

I'd fancy Wales to beat Scotland in a one-off game. But Scotland to be the better team playing 3 games in 8 days. Because the best Welsh players are past their best, physically.

totally agree Qatar is not a country where a North european country will win in

gregkdy82

With you being a Rangers man I would have thought you would be all for England winning the world cup Rab? Or do you only break out the union jack for the club football?

Hopefully Scotland do the hounerable thing and **** the tournament off and let Ukraine progress. Sadly I reckon we will get a bye to play Wales and beat them, then go to the tournament and put up a brave display against England after we've already been embarrassed by USA and Iran.

gregkdy82

Essexphil said:

rabdeniro said:

Was England there that year ?.

No. Great goal by Gemmill.

24 years since Scotland have qualified for the World Cup.

Aye Phil we all know we are shite though and hold no illusions. Your lot build your side up like its the greatest team ever invented every two years, before yous inevitably fall flat on your faces and turn on your team and some even start doling out death threats or racial abuse to which ever players are deemed most at fault for the supposed failure. I really don't think yous understand how tiresome and abhorrent this is for the rest of us in the UK to have to sit through every couple of years. Though I suppose it is always nearly worth it for how funny it is when yous do get papped out.

Essexphil

gregkdy82 said:

Essexphil said:

rabdeniro said:

Was England there that year ?.

No. Great goal by Gemmill.

24 years since Scotland have qualified for the World Cup.

Aye Phil we all know we are shite though and hold no illusions. Your lot build your side up like its the greatest team ever invented every two years, before yous inevitably fall flat on your faces and turn on your team and some even start doling out death threats or racial abuse to which ever players are deemed most at fault for the supposed failure. I really don't think yous understand how tiresome and abhorrent this is for the rest of us in the UK to have to sit through every couple of years. Though I suppose it is always nearly worth it for how funny it is when yous do get papped out.

Scotland are definitely improving. Still lack quality, but playing like a team. Would help if Celtic and Rangers picked more than 2 Scots to start.

Yes, there are England fans who overstate our chances every time. Mostly through a mixture of optimism and ignorance. Arrogance? Sometimes. But not as much as many Scots like to think. We've finally got a decent midfield. But we have about 4 decent defenders. And they are all Right Backs

Scotland have a history of glorious failure at World Cups. Thumped by USA, fluky Draw v Iran, and then a Win or the better of a Draw v England? That would fit.

rabdeniro

gregkdy82 said:

With you being a Rangers man I would have thought you would be all for England winning the world cup Rab? Or do you only break out the union jack for the club football?

Hopefully Scotland do the hounerable thing and **** the tournament off and let Ukraine progress. Sadly I reckon we will get a bye to play Wales and beat them, then go to the tournament and put up a brave display against England after we've already been embarrassed by USA and Iran.

No No No No , Scottish first then British, always, never had a union flag in ma hand.

TheEdge949

rabdeniro said:

gregkdy82 said:

With you being a Rangers man I would have thought you would be all for England winning the world cup Rab? Or do you only break out the union jack for the club football?

Hopefully Scotland do the hounerable thing and **** the tournament off and let Ukraine progress. Sadly I reckon we will get a bye to play Wales and beat them, then go to the tournament and put up a brave display against England after we've already been embarrassed by USA and Iran.

No No No No , Scottish first then British, always, never had a union flag in ma hand.

No worse than the tricolors adorning Parkhead.

If rangers fans all get behind the English according to Celtic, and the Celtic fans all follow Ireland according to Rangers fans. Then who the feck actually supports Scotland.

rabdeniro

TheEdge949 said:

rabdeniro said:

gregkdy82 said:

With you being a Rangers man I would have thought you would be all for England winning the world cup Rab? Or do you only break out the union jack for the club football?

Hopefully Scotland do the hounerable thing and **** the tournament off and let Ukraine progress. Sadly I reckon we will get a bye to play Wales and beat them, then go to the tournament and put up a brave display against England after we've already been embarrassed by USA and Iran.

No No No No , Scottish first then British, always, never had a union flag in ma hand.

No worse than the tricolors adorning Parkhead.

If rangers fans all get behind the English according to Celtic, and the Celtic fans all follow Ireland according to Rangers fans. Then who the feck actually supports Scotland.

The wee team supporters are always the ones who claim to be the real Scottish fans, 99% Rangers fans I know are proud Scottish supporters and proud to be British.