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HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,887
edited April 2022 in The Rail
Police let off 870 sex offenders including five child rapists without punishment or a criminal record 'because they said sorry'
Hundreds of sex offenders are avoiding criminal records by 'saying sorry'
Police units across UK have allowed rapists, flashers and more to escape justice
Under a 'community resolution order' sex pests can admit guilt and apologise
Survivors and campaigners have blasted the controversial law as a 'disgrace'



Victims, such as Sammy Woodhouse, above, are furious at controversial 'community resolutions', which are usually reserved for the lowest level crimes but are now being used by depraved sex pests.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10725407/Victims-blast-controversial-law-lets-sex-pests-escape-punishment-saying-SORRY.html
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  • EssexphilEssexphil Member Posts: 8,783
    HAYSIE said:

    Police let off 870 sex offenders including five child rapists without punishment or a criminal record 'because they said sorry'
    Hundreds of sex offenders are avoiding criminal records by 'saying sorry'
    Police units across UK have allowed rapists, flashers and more to escape justice
    Under a 'community resolution order' sex pests can admit guilt and apologise
    Survivors and campaigners have blasted the controversial law as a 'disgrace'



    Victims, such as Sammy Woodhouse, above, are furious at controversial 'community resolutions', which are usually reserved for the lowest level crimes but are now being used by depraved sex pests.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10725407/Victims-blast-controversial-law-lets-sex-pests-escape-punishment-saying-SORRY.html

    This is an offensive article. Even by Mail standards. Just some points to show why this is misleading:-

    1. Rape does not mean what a non-lawyer thinks it means. There are a whole variety of acts that the Law regards as rape.
    2. An under-13 can never give consent
    3. There is a strong presumption that an under-16 has not given consent

    So-here are the likeliest examples which are what the Mail are quoting as "rapists". Look at them, and see if you think 1 of the 2 people involved is a rapist. I haven't dealt much in Criminal Law, but I have dealt with both of these scenarios:-

    (1) A sexually experienced 12-yr-old chooses to give her Boyfriend a BJ for his 13th birthday. Is he a Rapist?
    (2) Boy, at his 16th birthday party, has sex with 15-yr-old girl in his year at school. She is sexually experienced. He is not. Is he a rapist?

    The Mail is good at being judgmental. It doesn't want you to have the facts, just stir up emotions.
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  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,887
    Essexphil said:

    HAYSIE said:

    Police let off 870 sex offenders including five child rapists without punishment or a criminal record 'because they said sorry'
    Hundreds of sex offenders are avoiding criminal records by 'saying sorry'
    Police units across UK have allowed rapists, flashers and more to escape justice
    Under a 'community resolution order' sex pests can admit guilt and apologise
    Survivors and campaigners have blasted the controversial law as a 'disgrace'



    Victims, such as Sammy Woodhouse, above, are furious at controversial 'community resolutions', which are usually reserved for the lowest level crimes but are now being used by depraved sex pests.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10725407/Victims-blast-controversial-law-lets-sex-pests-escape-punishment-saying-SORRY.html

    This is an offensive article. Even by Mail standards. Just some points to show why this is misleading:-

    1. Rape does not mean what a non-lawyer thinks it means. There are a whole variety of acts that the Law regards as rape.
    2. An under-13 can never give consent
    3. There is a strong presumption that an under-16 has not given consent

    So-here are the likeliest examples which are what the Mail are quoting as "rapists". Look at them, and see if you think 1 of the 2 people involved is a rapist. I haven't dealt much in Criminal Law, but I have dealt with both of these scenarios:-

    (1) A sexually experienced 12-yr-old chooses to give her Boyfriend a BJ for his 13th birthday. Is he a Rapist?
    (2) Boy, at his 16th birthday party, has sex with 15-yr-old girl in his year at school. She is sexually experienced. He is not. Is he a rapist?

    The Mail is good at being judgmental. It doesn't want you to have the facts, just stir up emotions.
    The headline looks shocking.
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