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  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,880
    Tory MP says poor people 'can't cook properly' and brags that meals can cost 30p


    https://www.msn.com/en-gb/money/other/tory-mp-says-poor-people-can-t-cook-properly-and-brags-that-meals-can-cost-30p/ar-AAXahUP?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=0cd525c954af467c9a6ac467ea73cf9c
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  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,880
    Tory MP claims no ‘massive use’ for food banks, saying people unable to cook and budget ‘properly’


    https://uk.yahoo.com/news/tory-mp-claims-no-massive-150625392.html
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  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,880
    Foodbank gaffe Tory's £220,000-A-YEAR expenses: Fury grows at MP who said Britons 'can't budget' and should be 'able to feed themselves for 30p' - as it emerges he took almost a quarter of a million pounds off taxpayers in just 12 months

    https://video.dailymail.co.uk/preview/mol/2022/05/11/3637986507762910121/308x174_MP4_3637986507762910121.mp4


    A Tory MP today who faced a furious backlash today after suggesting struggling Britons are only using food banks because they 'can't budget', claimed almost £222,000 in business expenses in one year. Ashfield MP Lee Anderson claimed £219,703.44 as business costs from 2020 to 2021 - bringing his office, staffing, accommodation, travel and subsistence claims higher than the average £203,880 claimed by MPs. His biggest cost was on staffing at £165,215.27, followed by £33,144.30 on office costs and £17,650.60 on accommodation. He spent £67.57 on hospitality. Mr Anderson, who earns £84,144 a year as an MP, caused uproar earlier today after he claimed that Brits 'can't budget' and there was 'not this massive use for food banks' in Britain.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10806007/Tory-MP-faces-fury-claiming-people-use-food-banks-cook.html
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  • EssexphilEssexphil Member Posts: 8,782
    On 1 level, this MP (who, incidentally is an ex-Labour Councillor) is the worst sort of moron.

    But, on another level, it does give rise to some sensible questions for those in need:-

    1. Which is cheaper, gas or electric?
    2. Which is cheaper, oven or microwave?
    3. Should you use heat from the oven to help heat the house?
    4. A voluntary course giving tips on how best to use a limited budget might well be welcome. Because desperate people do not always make the best decisions

    I don't know the answers to the above. But I feel I should. However gratifying the thought of heating my home by setting a certain MP on fire might sound ;)
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  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,880
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    Essexphil said:

    On 1 level, this MP (who, incidentally is an ex-Labour Councillor) is the worst sort of moron.

    But, on another level, it does give rise to some sensible questions for those in need:-

    1. Which is cheaper, gas or electric?
    2. Which is cheaper, oven or microwave?
    3. Should you use heat from the oven to help heat the house?
    4. A voluntary course giving tips on how best to use a limited budget might well be welcome. Because desperate people do not always make the best decisions

    I don't know the answers to the above. But I feel I should. However gratifying the thought of heating my home by setting a certain MP on fire might sound ;)


    I think the fact that new registrants in his local foodbank, are forced to enrol for two courses.
    One on budgeting.
    The other on cooking.
    The compulsory nature of this is not a good idea, nor was the smug, arrogant way in which he delivered the speech.
    I cant imagine the indignity that many people feel when having to register at a foodbank.
    It must represent a huge dent to their pride.
    Food banks are surely there to help people that are struggling.

    I appreciate there is not much humour in foodbanks, and I take the matter very seriously.
    I hope that I never have to register in one.
    Good luck to anyone telling Mrs Hayes that she had to learn to cook, I would guarantee that they would find themselves sparked out, however big they were.
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  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,880
    edited May 2022
    Justice Minister says she doesn't agree with Tory MP's food bank comments

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ImMqt8DQybs
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  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,880
    Tory council leader tucks into cherry bakewell buffet at food bank


    https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/tory-council-leader-tucks-into-cherry-bakewell-buffet-at-food-bank/ar-AAXa4IE?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=677f09b5b05a4e16a46a3596139adbb4
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  • TheEdge949TheEdge949 Member Posts: 5,686
    Once again a gobshyte with no idea spouts forth utter cr4p. The need for a foodbank is something that the people using them have to prove to either a local authority, social/child services, accredited charity (mind, shelter, age concern etc) or an M.P. surgery.

    Also does he think it's like a supermarket dash through Waitrose?

    Well lets examine an actual WEEKS supply

    4 people (2 adult and 2 children)

    2 box cereal
    4 tins beans/ spaghetti
    4 tins soup
    2 tins tomatoes
    2 pasta sauce
    3 tins veg
    3 tins fish (tuna, pilchards, sardines etc)
    3 tins meat (corned beef, meatballs, mince beef, spam etc)
    1Kg pasta or rice
    40 teabags
    2 litres long life milk
    1 litr fruit juice
    1 box mash
    1 tin potatoes
    1 pack biscuits
    4 savoury (crisps, crackers, pot noodle etc)
    4 sweet (choc bars, jam, preserves etc)

    That is the provision list for a typical foodbank, it's actually a copy of ours. Now as far as I'm concerned that is a very uninspiring list and not one that people would, with better options choose to have. Having to use a foodbank is no longer just the preserve of the worse off, homeless and those with issues. As families struggle to pay mortgage and rent to keep a roof over their heads and heat it more and more are having to use the foodbank service and feel embarrassed and even humiliated by having to do so.

    This idiot seems to think that it's all a question of budgeting which is fine as long as 1+1=2. When it doesn't then hard choices have to be made, rent or food, heat or mortgage, kids clothes or council tax.

    Sorry to vent but prats like this make me want to revert to Mark of yesteryear and slap him.





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  • rabdenirorabdeniro Member Posts: 4,434
    Essexphil said:

    On 1 level, this MP (who, incidentally is an ex-Labour Councillor) is the worst sort of moron.

    But, on another level, it does give rise to some sensible questions for those in need:-

    1. Which is cheaper, gas or electric?
    2. Which is cheaper, oven or microwave?
    3. Should you use heat from the oven to help heat the house?
    4. A voluntary course giving tips on how best to use a limited budget might well be welcome. Because desperate people do not always make the best decisions

    I don't know the answers to the above. But I feel I should. However gratifying the thought of heating my home by setting a certain MP on fire might sound ;)

    I remember years ago I would have been about 12 it must have been when the 3 day week was goin on, in the winter ma mum would always have the 4 gas rings and the oven door open when there was money in the meter ( the kitchen joined on to the living room ) we would be sittin with the candles lit, toastin the bread on a fork at the coal fire ( nae central heatin in those days ).
    We used to stay next to a school which had a ramp which was maybe about 20 ft high so the lorries could reverse up and dump the coal in, it had to big metal doors which covered the pit, the drivers very rarely shut them.
    The heatin in the school must have come on automatically and it was running 24 hrs ( when you you were at the top of the pit you could hear it and the coal would get sucked into the boiler.
    Me and my mate used to go over at night with shopping bags, boxes what ever we could get our hands on and fill them with coal ( I used to get lowered down in the pit because I weeist and lightest, it was terryfing if you heard the boiler coming on you had to get pulled oot as quick as possible ) and put some in the bunkers of our families and the auld neighbours.
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  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,880
    TheEdge949 said:

    Once again a gobshyte with no idea spouts forth utter cr4p. The need for a foodbank is something that the people using them have to prove to either a local authority, social/child services, accredited charity (mind, shelter, age concern etc) or an M.P. surgery.

    Also does he think it's like a supermarket dash through Waitrose?

    Well lets examine an actual WEEKS supply

    4 people (2 adult and 2 children)

    2 box cereal
    4 tins beans/ spaghetti
    4 tins soup
    2 tins tomatoes
    2 pasta sauce
    3 tins veg
    3 tins fish (tuna, pilchards, sardines etc)
    3 tins meat (corned beef, meatballs, mince beef, spam etc)
    1Kg pasta or rice
    40 teabags
    2 litres long life milk
    1 litr fruit juice
    1 box mash
    1 tin potatoes
    1 pack biscuits
    4 savoury (crisps, crackers, pot noodle etc)
    4 sweet (choc bars, jam, preserves etc)

    That is the provision list for a typical foodbank, it's actually a copy of ours. Now as far as I'm concerned that is a very uninspiring list and not one that people would, with better options choose to have. Having to use a foodbank is no longer just the preserve of the worse off, homeless and those with issues. As families struggle to pay mortgage and rent to keep a roof over their heads and heat it more and more are having to use the foodbank service and feel embarrassed and even humiliated by having to do so.

    This idiot seems to think that it's all a question of budgeting which is fine as long as 1+1=2. When it doesn't then hard choices have to be made, rent or food, heat or mortgage, kids clothes or council tax.

    Sorry to vent but prats like this make me want to revert to Mark of yesteryear and slap him.





    Do you force your customers to take any courses?
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  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,880
    'I made this meal for 30p!' Twitter users mock Tory MP with pictures of plate of ice, a single Shreddie and a cheese cracker - after he said Britons struggling to feed their families can't cook or budget



    Social media users from across the UK were quick to mock Ashfield MP Lee Anderson Anderson on Twitter, sharing a host of 'meals' which they claimed to have made for 30p. He who earns £84,144 a year as an MP, caused uproar after he claimed that Brits 'can't budget' and there was 'not this massive use for food banks' in Britain (pictured left to right, a single piece of cereal; a tiny meal; a plate of ice; inset, an onion; a cracker with cheese).


    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-10809767/Twitter-users-mock-Tory-MP-said-Brits-able-feed-30p.html
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  • stokefcstokefc Member Posts: 7,830
    rabdeniro said:

    Essexphil said:

    On 1 level, this MP (who, incidentally is an ex-Labour Councillor) is the worst sort of moron.

    But, on another level, it does give rise to some sensible questions for those in need:-

    1. Which is cheaper, gas or electric?
    2. Which is cheaper, oven or microwave?
    3. Should you use heat from the oven to help heat the house?
    4. A voluntary course giving tips on how best to use a limited budget might well be welcome. Because desperate people do not always make the best decisions

    I don't know the answers to the above. But I feel I should. However gratifying the thought of heating my home by setting a certain MP on fire might sound ;)

    I remember years ago I would have been about 12 it must have been when the 3 day week was goin on, in the winter ma mum would always have the 4 gas rings and the oven door open when there was money in the meter ( the kitchen joined on to the living room ) we would be sittin with the candles lit, toastin the bread on a fork at the coal fire ( nae central heatin in those days ).
    We used to stay next to a school which had a ramp which was maybe about 20 ft high so the lorries could reverse up and dump the coal in, it had to big metal doors which covered the pit, the drivers very rarely shut them.
    The heatin in the school must have come on automatically and it was running 24 hrs ( when you you were at the top of the pit you could hear it and the coal would get sucked into the boiler.
    Me and my mate used to go over at night with shopping bags, boxes what ever we could get our hands on and fill them with coal ( I used to get lowered down in the pit because I weeist and lightest, it was terryfing if you heard the boiler coming on you had to get pulled oot as quick as possible ) and put some in the bunkers of our families and the auld neighbours.
    My old man used to get up to all sorts of stuff , he was a bit of a rouge was dad and i can say these things now he's passed but at the time he told us kids to say nowt to anybody we wouldn't dare anyway
    After he finished down the pit the free coal was stopped so we had a gas poker in the fire place to heat the water he used to go under the stairs and very carefully so as to not upset the dust take the meter of and replace it very carefully back to front leave it a week then put it the right way round , house was like a sauna with the free gas
    He drilled a tiny hole in the leccy meter just big enough for a tiny wire to stop the wheel turning for free leccy there was many a time mum used to tell us to hide when the meter men come to read the meters we'd all be under the stairs with mum with her finger over her lips so we'd be quiet so it looked like no one was in
    We were poor back then and it wasn't just us doing these things it was any man for themselves , great times when i look back :)
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  • TheEdge949TheEdge949 Member Posts: 5,686
    HAYSIE said:

    TheEdge949 said:

    Once again a gobshyte with no idea spouts forth utter cr4p. The need for a foodbank is something that the people using them have to prove to either a local authority, social/child services, accredited charity (mind, shelter, age concern etc) or an M.P. surgery.

    Also does he think it's like a supermarket dash through Waitrose?

    Well lets examine an actual WEEKS supply

    4 people (2 adult and 2 children)

    2 box cereal
    4 tins beans/ spaghetti
    4 tins soup
    2 tins tomatoes
    2 pasta sauce
    3 tins veg
    3 tins fish (tuna, pilchards, sardines etc)
    3 tins meat (corned beef, meatballs, mince beef, spam etc)
    1Kg pasta or rice
    40 teabags
    2 litres long life milk
    1 litr fruit juice
    1 box mash
    1 tin potatoes
    1 pack biscuits
    4 savoury (crisps, crackers, pot noodle etc)
    4 sweet (choc bars, jam, preserves etc)

    That is the provision list for a typical foodbank, it's actually a copy of ours. Now as far as I'm concerned that is a very uninspiring list and not one that people would, with better options choose to have. Having to use a foodbank is no longer just the preserve of the worse off, homeless and those with issues. As families struggle to pay mortgage and rent to keep a roof over their heads and heat it more and more are having to use the foodbank service and feel embarrassed and even humiliated by having to do so.

    This idiot seems to think that it's all a question of budgeting which is fine as long as 1+1=2. When it doesn't then hard choices have to be made, rent or food, heat or mortgage, kids clothes or council tax.

    Sorry to vent but prats like this make me want to revert to Mark of yesteryear and slap him.





    Do you force your customers to take any courses?
    Absolutely not, we do put a suggested menu to show how to eek the supplies out, but that's it.

    Sometimes we get stuff that isn't on the list like bags of sugar, fresh vegetables, bread, pop and squash or maybe coffee which we offer out as and when we can.

    Occasionally we will tweak it like say if a client is sleeping rough we will make sure that all the food can be eaten cold so would swap say the pasta for extra beans and sweet stuff like chocolate or maybe a box of tracker bars.

    We would also work around allergies and suchlike.

    Foodbank is about helping people in crisis not about providing them with culinary or financial skills. Yes we have systems to signpost them to help and support but that's should never be a prerequisite to the initial goal which is feeding hungry people.
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  • DoublemeDoubleme Member Posts: 2,150
    I already made this thread your just doubling over it really should just combine the two threads
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  • rabdenirorabdeniro Member Posts: 4,434
    stokefc said:

    rabdeniro said:

    Essexphil said:

    On 1 level, this MP (who, incidentally is an ex-Labour Councillor) is the worst sort of moron.

    But, on another level, it does give rise to some sensible questions for those in need:-

    1. Which is cheaper, gas or electric?
    2. Which is cheaper, oven or microwave?
    3. Should you use heat from the oven to help heat the house?
    4. A voluntary course giving tips on how best to use a limited budget might well be welcome. Because desperate people do not always make the best decisions

    I don't know the answers to the above. But I feel I should. However gratifying the thought of heating my home by setting a certain MP on fire might sound ;)

    I remember years ago I would have been about 12 it must have been when the 3 day week was goin on, in the winter ma mum would always have the 4 gas rings and the oven door open when there was money in the meter ( the kitchen joined on to the living room ) we would be sittin with the candles lit, toastin the bread on a fork at the coal fire ( nae central heatin in those days ).
    We used to stay next to a school which had a ramp which was maybe about 20 ft high so the lorries could reverse up and dump the coal in, it had to big metal doors which covered the pit, the drivers very rarely shut them.
    The heatin in the school must have come on automatically and it was running 24 hrs ( when you you were at the top of the pit you could hear it and the coal would get sucked into the boiler.
    Me and my mate used to go over at night with shopping bags, boxes what ever we could get our hands on and fill them with coal ( I used to get lowered down in the pit because I weeist and lightest, it was terryfing if you heard the boiler coming on you had to get pulled oot as quick as possible ) and put some in the bunkers of our families and the auld neighbours.
    My old man used to get up to all sorts of stuff , he was a bit of a rouge was dad and i can say these things now he's passed but at the time he told us kids to say nowt to anybody we wouldn't dare anyway
    After he finished down the pit the free coal was stopped so we had a gas poker in the fire place to heat the water he used to go under the stairs and very carefully so as to not upset the dust take the meter of and replace it very carefully back to front leave it a week then put it the right way round , house was like a sauna with the free gas
    He drilled a tiny hole in the leccy meter just big enough for a tiny wire to stop the wheel turning for free leccy there was many a time mum used to tell us to hide when the meter men come to read the meters we'd all be under the stairs with mum with her finger over her lips so we'd be quiet so it looked like no one was in
    We were poor back then and it wasn't just us doing these things it was any man for themselves , great times when i look back :)
    Ah used to love it when the leccy, gas and I think it was the Radio Rental guys used to empty the meters, any extra money that was in the box you got back, sweeties all round, ma dad was the same, a friend of a friend in the pub showed him how to fix the meter, we had a box room in the living room and we were shoved in there when they came to read the meter.
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  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,880
    MP food bank row: Lee Anderson wants to 'educate people'


    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-nottinghamshire-61429268
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    Disbelief and anger on Nottinghamshire streets after MP Lee Anderson's food bank tirade


    https://www.msn.com/en-gb/money/other/disbelief-and-anger-on-nottinghamshire-streets-after-mp-lee-anderson-s-food-bank-tirade/ar-AAXc7aO?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=44a9a24b0a74441e87ea0a347b007663
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