I am a little confused in relation to what this gentleman's claim actually is.
He is employed by Pinnacle. As a Contract cleaner. Someone who is not his employer (Basildon Council) appear to have dispensed with this Contractor's services. It is not clear whether they continued to use Pinnacle.
I am struggling to see what the claim is here. Basildon didn't like his work. It must be a given that (just like able-bodied people) some disabled people are good at their job. And some not. And also that different contracting parties will themselves have different opinions. Clearly, Pinnacle rate him higher than Basildon.
I'm not saying he doesn't have a claim-just that the article doesn't say what it is.
Pinnacle clearly believe he is good at his job-as, at all times, they have continued to employ him.
Would be really useful-instead of concentrating on the "bandit" angle, to say who he is suing. And why.
Have to say, assuming he's healthy in all other respects, I think giving a one-armed man the "Bandit" nick is pretty funny. Thanks to an overdose of political correctness these days I guess it wold be OOL. Still difficult to resist a chuckle though.
Have to say, assuming he's healthy in all other respects, I think giving a one-armed man the "Bandit" nick is pretty funny. Thanks to an overdose of political correctness these days I guess it wold be OOL. Still difficult to resist a chuckle though.
There was lots of banter when I was growing up, none of it was politically correct, and you wouldnt get away with it today. Although it was never malicious, nobody sulked or cried, everybody tried to give as good as they got. Not having to worry about everything you said was probably a bit more fun.
Have to say, assuming he's healthy in all other respects, I think giving a one-armed man the "Bandit" nick is pretty funny. Thanks to an overdose of political correctness these days I guess it wold be OOL. Still difficult to resist a chuckle though.
There was lots of banter when I was growing up, none of it was politically correct, and you wouldnt get away with it today. Although it was never malicious, nobody sulked or cried, everybody tried to give as good as they got. Not having to worry about everything you said was probably a bit more fun.
Have to say, assuming he's healthy in all other respects, I think giving a one-armed man the "Bandit" nick is pretty funny. Thanks to an overdose of political correctness these days I guess it wold be OOL. Still difficult to resist a chuckle though.
There was lots of banter when I was growing up, none of it was politically correct, and you wouldnt get away with it today. Although it was never malicious, nobody sulked or cried, everybody tried to give as good as they got. Not having to worry about everything you said was probably a bit more fun.
I totally agree with you, but nowadays where does it start and stop? What was classed as 'Banter' is now considered 'Abuse/UN PC'.
Have to say, assuming he's healthy in all other respects, I think giving a one-armed man the "Bandit" nick is pretty funny. Thanks to an overdose of political correctness these days I guess it wold be OOL. Still difficult to resist a chuckle though.
There was lots of banter when I was growing up, none of it was politically correct, and you wouldnt get away with it today. Although it was never malicious, nobody sulked or cried, everybody tried to give as good as they got. Not having to worry about everything you said was probably a bit more fun.
I totally agree with you, but nowadays where does it start and stop? What was classed as 'Banter' is now considered 'Abuse/UN PC'.
Have to say, assuming he's healthy in all other respects, I think giving a one-armed man the "Bandit" nick is pretty funny. Thanks to an overdose of political correctness these days I guess it wold be OOL. Still difficult to resist a chuckle though.
There was lots of banter when I was growing up, none of it was politically correct, and you wouldnt get away with it today. Although it was never malicious, nobody sulked or cried, everybody tried to give as good as they got. Not having to worry about everything you said was probably a bit more fun.
I totally agree with you, but nowadays where does it start and stop? What was classed as 'Banter' is now considered 'Abuse/UN PC'.
You couldnt make some of it up.
Advice turns schoolgirls into ‘pupils who menstruate’
Government advice on free sanitary products in schools repeatedly referred to “students who menstruate” rather than to “girls”.
A document on the Department for Education (DfE) website detailed how providing menstrual products to girls did not disadvantage anyone under the Equality Act. Its wording angered women’s campaigners, however, who have warned of the dangers of alienating women and girls by using more inclusive gender-neutral language.
The seven-page 2020 memo told of “students who menstruate”, “young people menstruating” and “learners who menstruate”. There was one mention of “girls” and one of “women”, both in the footnotes, and two of “female”.
The wording was changed last night after The Times brought it to the attention of education chiefs. Sources said ministers had not been involved in
Have to say, assuming he's healthy in all other respects, I think giving a one-armed man the "Bandit" nick is pretty funny. Thanks to an overdose of political correctness these days I guess it wold be OOL. Still difficult to resist a chuckle though.
There was lots of banter when I was growing up, none of it was politically correct, and you wouldnt get away with it today. Although it was never malicious, nobody sulked or cried, everybody tried to give as good as they got. Not having to worry about everything you said was probably a bit more fun.
I totally agree with you, but nowadays where does it start and stop? What was classed as 'Banter' is now considered 'Abuse/UN PC'.
You couldnt make some of it up.
Advice turns schoolgirls into ‘pupils who menstruate’
Government advice on free sanitary products in schools repeatedly referred to “students who menstruate” rather than to “girls”.
A document on the Department for Education (DfE) website detailed how providing menstrual products to girls did not disadvantage anyone under the Equality Act. Its wording angered women’s campaigners, however, who have warned of the dangers of alienating women and girls by using more inclusive gender-neutral language.
The seven-page 2020 memo told of “students who menstruate”, “young people menstruating” and “learners who menstruate”. There was one mention of “girls” and one of “women”, both in the footnotes, and two of “female”.
The wording was changed last night after The Times brought it to the attention of education chiefs. Sources said ministers had not been involved in
My youngest identifies as a man. Has done since he was 13. Goes by the legal name of Mr. First name Samuel. He menstruates. Even though he is most certainly not a "girl".
Schools have a difficult enough job to do. The Government position is correct. The DfE website is not. Not least because under-18s cannot have corrective surgery.
If anyone believes that someone who identifies as a girl but has male genitalia does need sanitary products, and the reverse does not, and believes neither is "disadvantaged" then they are an idiot.
PS. It is important to note that when people say "women's campaigners" they are normally referring to the LGB Alliance. A group of Gay people who believe Trans people should be exterminated.
Have to say, assuming he's healthy in all other respects, I think giving a one-armed man the "Bandit" nick is pretty funny. Thanks to an overdose of political correctness these days I guess it wold be OOL. Still difficult to resist a chuckle though.
There was lots of banter when I was growing up, none of it was politically correct, and you wouldnt get away with it today. Although it was never malicious, nobody sulked or cried, everybody tried to give as good as they got. Not having to worry about everything you said was probably a bit more fun.
I totally agree with you, but nowadays where does it start and stop? What was classed as 'Banter' is now considered 'Abuse/UN PC'.
You couldnt make some of it up.
Advice turns schoolgirls into ‘pupils who menstruate’
Government advice on free sanitary products in schools repeatedly referred to “students who menstruate” rather than to “girls”.
A document on the Department for Education (DfE) website detailed how providing menstrual products to girls did not disadvantage anyone under the Equality Act. Its wording angered women’s campaigners, however, who have warned of the dangers of alienating women and girls by using more inclusive gender-neutral language.
The seven-page 2020 memo told of “students who menstruate”, “young people menstruating” and “learners who menstruate”. There was one mention of “girls” and one of “women”, both in the footnotes, and two of “female”.
The wording was changed last night after The Times brought it to the attention of education chiefs. Sources said ministers had not been involved in
My youngest identifies as a man. Has done since he was 13. Goes by the legal name of Mr. First name Samuel. He menstruates. Even though he is most certainly not a "girl".
Schools have a difficult enough job to do. The Government position is correct. The DfE website is not. Not least because under-18s cannot have corrective surgery.
If anyone believes that someone who identifies as a girl but has male genitalia does need sanitary products, and the reverse does not, and believes neither is "disadvantaged" then they are an idiot.
PS. It is important to note that when people say "women's campaigners" they are normally referring to the LGB Alliance. A group of Gay people who believe Trans people should be exterminated.
I would hate to upset anyone on this topic, particularly through my lack of knowledge. So I wont say very much. I think that the era of political correctness, has meant that we now produce memos like this with a very small minority of people in mind. The fact that in doing so, they risk outraging the overwhelming majority doesnt seem to matter. I suppose that when I was growing up very small minorities seemed to accept that everything would not be perfect for them, and maybe that was the price they paid for being in a very small minority. They covered this story on Sky News this morning, the women were clearly not amused. I dont think we should deliberately set out to upset anyone, however small a minority, but every bit of political correctness seems to lead to more, there seem to be no bounds. Where will it end?
Have to say, assuming he's healthy in all other respects, I think giving a one-armed man the "Bandit" nick is pretty funny. Thanks to an overdose of political correctness these days I guess it wold be OOL. Still difficult to resist a chuckle though.
There was lots of banter when I was growing up, none of it was politically correct, and you wouldnt get away with it today. Although it was never malicious, nobody sulked or cried, everybody tried to give as good as they got. Not having to worry about everything you said was probably a bit more fun.
I totally agree with you, but nowadays where does it start and stop? What was classed as 'Banter' is now considered 'Abuse/UN PC'.
You couldnt make some of it up.
Advice turns schoolgirls into ‘pupils who menstruate’
Government advice on free sanitary products in schools repeatedly referred to “students who menstruate” rather than to “girls”.
A document on the Department for Education (DfE) website detailed how providing menstrual products to girls did not disadvantage anyone under the Equality Act. Its wording angered women’s campaigners, however, who have warned of the dangers of alienating women and girls by using more inclusive gender-neutral language.
The seven-page 2020 memo told of “students who menstruate”, “young people menstruating” and “learners who menstruate”. There was one mention of “girls” and one of “women”, both in the footnotes, and two of “female”.
The wording was changed last night after The Times brought it to the attention of education chiefs. Sources said ministers had not been involved in
My youngest identifies as a man. Has done since he was 13. Goes by the legal name of Mr. First name Samuel. He menstruates. Even though he is most certainly not a "girl".
Schools have a difficult enough job to do. The Government position is correct. The DfE website is not. Not least because under-18s cannot have corrective surgery.
If anyone believes that someone who identifies as a girl but has male genitalia does need sanitary products, and the reverse does not, and believes neither is "disadvantaged" then they are an idiot.
PS. It is important to note that when people say "women's campaigners" they are normally referring to the LGB Alliance. A group of Gay people who believe Trans people should be exterminated.
I would hate to upset anyone on this topic, particularly through my lack of knowledge. So I wont say very much. I think that the era of political correctness, has meant that we now produce memos like this with a very small minority of people in mind. The fact that in doing so, they risk outraging the overwhelming majority doesnt seem to matter. I suppose that when I was growing up very small minorities seemed to accept that everything would not be perfect for them, and maybe that was the price they paid for being in a very small minority. They covered this story on Sky News this morning, the women were clearly not amused. I dont think we should deliberately set out to upset anyone, however small a minority, but every bit of political correctness seems to lead to more, there seem to be no bounds. Where will it end?
Completely agree. You have a lack of knowledge.
It is not "political correctness". It is as simple as ensuring, for example, that sanitary products go to the people that need them. That is just common sense.
It does not "outrage" the "overwhelming majority". At all. I speak from personal experience. So, for example, my youngest legally changed her gender and passport while under 18. Without my consent-in fact, I never knew until it was done.
You seriously believe Trans people believe everything will be perfect for them? Would that be the group that are statistically far more likely to take anti-depressants, to have mental health problems, to commit suicide? Oh. Pretty perfect.
"Price they paid"? How offensive is that!
The vast majority of people in this country are inclusive, decent human beings. Including, by and large, the Straight Community. Even old people, like you and me. Our language can be hopelessly outdated, and at times downright offensive, but Minorities know the difference between offensive and deliberately offensive. People tend to be curious. Not judgmental.
Attacks on Trans people are increasing. Primarily due to a hate group. The LGB Alliance. So-for example-the LGB Alliance campaign to stop schools making provision for Trans people. Straight people just believe it is part of life. Attack Stonewall for including Trans people. Attack Trans people on Pride marches.
Because a section of the Gay Community believe a different Minority should not exist.
Have to say, assuming he's healthy in all other respects, I think giving a one-armed man the "Bandit" nick is pretty funny. Thanks to an overdose of political correctness these days I guess it wold be OOL. Still difficult to resist a chuckle though.
There was lots of banter when I was growing up, none of it was politically correct, and you wouldnt get away with it today. Although it was never malicious, nobody sulked or cried, everybody tried to give as good as they got. Not having to worry about everything you said was probably a bit more fun.
I totally agree with you, but nowadays where does it start and stop? What was classed as 'Banter' is now considered 'Abuse/UN PC'.
You couldnt make some of it up.
Advice turns schoolgirls into ‘pupils who menstruate’
Government advice on free sanitary products in schools repeatedly referred to “students who menstruate” rather than to “girls”.
A document on the Department for Education (DfE) website detailed how providing menstrual products to girls did not disadvantage anyone under the Equality Act. Its wording angered women’s campaigners, however, who have warned of the dangers of alienating women and girls by using more inclusive gender-neutral language.
The seven-page 2020 memo told of “students who menstruate”, “young people menstruating” and “learners who menstruate”. There was one mention of “girls” and one of “women”, both in the footnotes, and two of “female”.
The wording was changed last night after The Times brought it to the attention of education chiefs. Sources said ministers had not been involved in
My youngest identifies as a man. Has done since he was 13. Goes by the legal name of Mr. First name Samuel. He menstruates. Even though he is most certainly not a "girl".
Schools have a difficult enough job to do. The Government position is correct. The DfE website is not. Not least because under-18s cannot have corrective surgery.
If anyone believes that someone who identifies as a girl but has male genitalia does need sanitary products, and the reverse does not, and believes neither is "disadvantaged" then they are an idiot.
PS. It is important to note that when people say "women's campaigners" they are normally referring to the LGB Alliance. A group of Gay people who believe Trans people should be exterminated.
I would hate to upset anyone on this topic, particularly through my lack of knowledge. So I wont say very much. I think that the era of political correctness, has meant that we now produce memos like this with a very small minority of people in mind. The fact that in doing so, they risk outraging the overwhelming majority doesnt seem to matter. I suppose that when I was growing up very small minorities seemed to accept that everything would not be perfect for them, and maybe that was the price they paid for being in a very small minority. They covered this story on Sky News this morning, the women were clearly not amused. I dont think we should deliberately set out to upset anyone, however small a minority, but every bit of political correctness seems to lead to more, there seem to be no bounds. Where will it end?
Completely agree. You have a lack of knowledge.
It is not "political correctness". It is as simple as ensuring, for example, that sanitary products go to the people that need them. That is just common sense.
It does not "outrage" the "overwhelming majority". At all. I speak from personal experience. So, for example, my youngest legally changed her gender and passport while under 18. Without my consent-in fact, I never knew until it was done.
You seriously believe Trans people believe everything will be perfect for them? Would that be the group that are statistically far more likely to take anti-depressants, to have mental health problems, to commit suicide? Oh. Pretty perfect.
"Price they paid"? How offensive is that!
The vast majority of people in this country are inclusive, decent human beings. Including, by and large, the Straight Community. Even old people, like you and me. Our language can be hopelessly outdated, and at times downright offensive, but Minorities know the difference between offensive and deliberately offensive. People tend to be curious. Not judgmental.
Attacks on Trans people are increasing. Primarily due to a hate group. The LGB Alliance. So-for example-the LGB Alliance campaign to stop schools making provision for Trans people. Straight people just believe it is part of life. Attack Stonewall for including Trans people. Attack Trans people on Pride marches.
Because a section of the Gay Community believe a different Minority should not exist.
We are not going to agree on this The point I was trying to make was merely this, the document refers to people as per the below, students who menstruate”, “young people menstruating” and “learners who menstruate”. You would assume that the overwhelming majority would happy to be referred to as women and girls, because that is what they are. The reaction from the women on Sky this morning concurred. They found the above terms offensive.
Have to say, assuming he's healthy in all other respects, I think giving a one-armed man the "Bandit" nick is pretty funny. Thanks to an overdose of political correctness these days I guess it wold be OOL. Still difficult to resist a chuckle though.
There was lots of banter when I was growing up, none of it was politically correct, and you wouldnt get away with it today. Although it was never malicious, nobody sulked or cried, everybody tried to give as good as they got. Not having to worry about everything you said was probably a bit more fun.
I totally agree with you, but nowadays where does it start and stop? What was classed as 'Banter' is now considered 'Abuse/UN PC'.
You couldnt make some of it up.
Advice turns schoolgirls into ‘pupils who menstruate’
Government advice on free sanitary products in schools repeatedly referred to “students who menstruate” rather than to “girls”.
A document on the Department for Education (DfE) website detailed how providing menstrual products to girls did not disadvantage anyone under the Equality Act. Its wording angered women’s campaigners, however, who have warned of the dangers of alienating women and girls by using more inclusive gender-neutral language.
The seven-page 2020 memo told of “students who menstruate”, “young people menstruating” and “learners who menstruate”. There was one mention of “girls” and one of “women”, both in the footnotes, and two of “female”.
The wording was changed last night after The Times brought it to the attention of education chiefs. Sources said ministers had not been involved in
My youngest identifies as a man. Has done since he was 13. Goes by the legal name of Mr. First name Samuel. He menstruates. Even though he is most certainly not a "girl".
Schools have a difficult enough job to do. The Government position is correct. The DfE website is not. Not least because under-18s cannot have corrective surgery.
If anyone believes that someone who identifies as a girl but has male genitalia does need sanitary products, and the reverse does not, and believes neither is "disadvantaged" then they are an idiot.
PS. It is important to note that when people say "women's campaigners" they are normally referring to the LGB Alliance. A group of Gay people who believe Trans people should be exterminated.
I would hate to upset anyone on this topic, particularly through my lack of knowledge. So I wont say very much. I think that the era of political correctness, has meant that we now produce memos like this with a very small minority of people in mind. The fact that in doing so, they risk outraging the overwhelming majority doesnt seem to matter. I suppose that when I was growing up very small minorities seemed to accept that everything would not be perfect for them, and maybe that was the price they paid for being in a very small minority. They covered this story on Sky News this morning, the women were clearly not amused. I dont think we should deliberately set out to upset anyone, however small a minority, but every bit of political correctness seems to lead to more, there seem to be no bounds. Where will it end?
Completely agree. You have a lack of knowledge.
It is not "political correctness". It is as simple as ensuring, for example, that sanitary products go to the people that need them. That is just common sense.
It does not "outrage" the "overwhelming majority". At all. I speak from personal experience. So, for example, my youngest legally changed her gender and passport while under 18. Without my consent-in fact, I never knew until it was done.
You seriously believe Trans people believe everything will be perfect for them? Would that be the group that are statistically far more likely to take anti-depressants, to have mental health problems, to commit suicide? Oh. Pretty perfect.
"Price they paid"? How offensive is that!
The vast majority of people in this country are inclusive, decent human beings. Including, by and large, the Straight Community. Even old people, like you and me. Our language can be hopelessly outdated, and at times downright offensive, but Minorities know the difference between offensive and deliberately offensive. People tend to be curious. Not judgmental.
Attacks on Trans people are increasing. Primarily due to a hate group. The LGB Alliance. So-for example-the LGB Alliance campaign to stop schools making provision for Trans people. Straight people just believe it is part of life. Attack Stonewall for including Trans people. Attack Trans people on Pride marches.
Because a section of the Gay Community believe a different Minority should not exist.
Professor's fury at seeing man urinate in 'gender neutral' toilet
A woman is angry after finding a man using a urinal in a male bathroom that had been incorrectly labelled as gender-neutral.
Associate professor Sarahjane Jones, 35, attended a Health Research Authority (HRA) conference at the Science and Industry Museum, in Manchester, on Wednesday.
When she went to use the bathroom, she chose the one labelled ‘inclusive’ with a sign depicting a male, a female and a mix of the two.
She claims to have walked in on a man using a urinal, who she would have had to pass to get to a cubicle.
Sarahjane, who researches patient safety at Staffordshire University, later tweeted about her bathroom experience saying: ‘This is not an example of inclusively! And is wholly unacceptable.’
More than 1,000 people have since commented on the post, with one commentator calling it ‘insane’ and another writing: ‘Funny how this inclusion always excludes women’.
The museum has since confirmed it accidentally labelled this gender-neutral toilet as ‘inclusive’ when it was supposed to be just for men.
Have to say, assuming he's healthy in all other respects, I think giving a one-armed man the "Bandit" nick is pretty funny. Thanks to an overdose of political correctness these days I guess it wold be OOL. Still difficult to resist a chuckle though.
There was lots of banter when I was growing up, none of it was politically correct, and you wouldnt get away with it today. Although it was never malicious, nobody sulked or cried, everybody tried to give as good as they got. Not having to worry about everything you said was probably a bit more fun.
I totally agree with you, but nowadays where does it start and stop? What was classed as 'Banter' is now considered 'Abuse/UN PC'.
You couldnt make some of it up.
Advice turns schoolgirls into ‘pupils who menstruate’
Government advice on free sanitary products in schools repeatedly referred to “students who menstruate” rather than to “girls”.
A document on the Department for Education (DfE) website detailed how providing menstrual products to girls did not disadvantage anyone under the Equality Act. Its wording angered women’s campaigners, however, who have warned of the dangers of alienating women and girls by using more inclusive gender-neutral language.
The seven-page 2020 memo told of “students who menstruate”, “young people menstruating” and “learners who menstruate”. There was one mention of “girls” and one of “women”, both in the footnotes, and two of “female”.
The wording was changed last night after The Times brought it to the attention of education chiefs. Sources said ministers had not been involved in
My youngest identifies as a man. Has done since he was 13. Goes by the legal name of Mr. First name Samuel. He menstruates. Even though he is most certainly not a "girl".
Schools have a difficult enough job to do. The Government position is correct. The DfE website is not. Not least because under-18s cannot have corrective surgery.
If anyone believes that someone who identifies as a girl but has male genitalia does need sanitary products, and the reverse does not, and believes neither is "disadvantaged" then they are an idiot.
PS. It is important to note that when people say "women's campaigners" they are normally referring to the LGB Alliance. A group of Gay people who believe Trans people should be exterminated.
I would hate to upset anyone on this topic, particularly through my lack of knowledge. So I wont say very much. I think that the era of political correctness, has meant that we now produce memos like this with a very small minority of people in mind. The fact that in doing so, they risk outraging the overwhelming majority doesnt seem to matter. I suppose that when I was growing up very small minorities seemed to accept that everything would not be perfect for them, and maybe that was the price they paid for being in a very small minority. They covered this story on Sky News this morning, the women were clearly not amused. I dont think we should deliberately set out to upset anyone, however small a minority, but every bit of political correctness seems to lead to more, there seem to be no bounds. Where will it end?
Completely agree. You have a lack of knowledge.
It is not "political correctness". It is as simple as ensuring, for example, that sanitary products go to the people that need them. That is just common sense.
It does not "outrage" the "overwhelming majority". At all. I speak from personal experience. So, for example, my youngest legally changed her gender and passport while under 18. Without my consent-in fact, I never knew until it was done.
You seriously believe Trans people believe everything will be perfect for them? Would that be the group that are statistically far more likely to take anti-depressants, to have mental health problems, to commit suicide? Oh. Pretty perfect.
"Price they paid"? How offensive is that!
The vast majority of people in this country are inclusive, decent human beings. Including, by and large, the Straight Community. Even old people, like you and me. Our language can be hopelessly outdated, and at times downright offensive, but Minorities know the difference between offensive and deliberately offensive. People tend to be curious. Not judgmental.
Attacks on Trans people are increasing. Primarily due to a hate group. The LGB Alliance. So-for example-the LGB Alliance campaign to stop schools making provision for Trans people. Straight people just believe it is part of life. Attack Stonewall for including Trans people. Attack Trans people on Pride marches.
Because a section of the Gay Community believe a different Minority should not exist.
Professor's fury at seeing man urinate in 'gender neutral' toilet
A woman is angry after finding a man using a urinal in a male bathroom that had been incorrectly labelled as gender-neutral.
Associate professor Sarahjane Jones, 35, attended a Health Research Authority (HRA) conference at the Science and Industry Museum, in Manchester, on Wednesday.
When she went to use the bathroom, she chose the one labelled ‘inclusive’ with a sign depicting a male, a female and a mix of the two.
She claims to have walked in on a man using a urinal, who she would have had to pass to get to a cubicle.
Sarahjane, who researches patient safety at Staffordshire University, later tweeted about her bathroom experience saying: ‘This is not an example of inclusively! And is wholly unacceptable.’
More than 1,000 people have since commented on the post, with one commentator calling it ‘insane’ and another writing: ‘Funny how this inclusion always excludes women’.
The museum has since confirmed it accidentally labelled this gender-neutral toilet as ‘inclusive’ when it was supposed to be just for men.
OK. I'll bite. How is this supposed to be in any way relevant?
Gender neutral toilets are supposed to provide separate cubicles, and no "communal" area. This one did not. And was clearly inappropriate. For absolutely everyone. Male. Female. And Transgender.
It has everything to do with wrong signage. And nothing whatsoever to do with anything else. Simply because it was not a gender neutral toilet.
Have to say, assuming he's healthy in all other respects, I think giving a one-armed man the "Bandit" nick is pretty funny. Thanks to an overdose of political correctness these days I guess it wold be OOL. Still difficult to resist a chuckle though.
There was lots of banter when I was growing up, none of it was politically correct, and you wouldnt get away with it today. Although it was never malicious, nobody sulked or cried, everybody tried to give as good as they got. Not having to worry about everything you said was probably a bit more fun.
I totally agree with you, but nowadays where does it start and stop? What was classed as 'Banter' is now considered 'Abuse/UN PC'.
You couldnt make some of it up.
Advice turns schoolgirls into ‘pupils who menstruate’
Government advice on free sanitary products in schools repeatedly referred to “students who menstruate” rather than to “girls”.
A document on the Department for Education (DfE) website detailed how providing menstrual products to girls did not disadvantage anyone under the Equality Act. Its wording angered women’s campaigners, however, who have warned of the dangers of alienating women and girls by using more inclusive gender-neutral language.
The seven-page 2020 memo told of “students who menstruate”, “young people menstruating” and “learners who menstruate”. There was one mention of “girls” and one of “women”, both in the footnotes, and two of “female”.
The wording was changed last night after The Times brought it to the attention of education chiefs. Sources said ministers had not been involved in
My youngest identifies as a man. Has done since he was 13. Goes by the legal name of Mr. First name Samuel. He menstruates. Even though he is most certainly not a "girl".
Schools have a difficult enough job to do. The Government position is correct. The DfE website is not. Not least because under-18s cannot have corrective surgery.
If anyone believes that someone who identifies as a girl but has male genitalia does need sanitary products, and the reverse does not, and believes neither is "disadvantaged" then they are an idiot.
PS. It is important to note that when people say "women's campaigners" they are normally referring to the LGB Alliance. A group of Gay people who believe Trans people should be exterminated.
I would hate to upset anyone on this topic, particularly through my lack of knowledge. So I wont say very much. I think that the era of political correctness, has meant that we now produce memos like this with a very small minority of people in mind. The fact that in doing so, they risk outraging the overwhelming majority doesnt seem to matter. I suppose that when I was growing up very small minorities seemed to accept that everything would not be perfect for them, and maybe that was the price they paid for being in a very small minority. They covered this story on Sky News this morning, the women were clearly not amused. I dont think we should deliberately set out to upset anyone, however small a minority, but every bit of political correctness seems to lead to more, there seem to be no bounds. Where will it end?
Completely agree. You have a lack of knowledge.
It is not "political correctness". It is as simple as ensuring, for example, that sanitary products go to the people that need them. That is just common sense.
It does not "outrage" the "overwhelming majority". At all. I speak from personal experience. So, for example, my youngest legally changed her gender and passport while under 18. Without my consent-in fact, I never knew until it was done.
You seriously believe Trans people believe everything will be perfect for them? Would that be the group that are statistically far more likely to take anti-depressants, to have mental health problems, to commit suicide? Oh. Pretty perfect.
"Price they paid"? How offensive is that!
The vast majority of people in this country are inclusive, decent human beings. Including, by and large, the Straight Community. Even old people, like you and me. Our language can be hopelessly outdated, and at times downright offensive, but Minorities know the difference between offensive and deliberately offensive. People tend to be curious. Not judgmental.
Attacks on Trans people are increasing. Primarily due to a hate group. The LGB Alliance. So-for example-the LGB Alliance campaign to stop schools making provision for Trans people. Straight people just believe it is part of life. Attack Stonewall for including Trans people. Attack Trans people on Pride marches.
Because a section of the Gay Community believe a different Minority should not exist.
We are not going to agree on this The point I was trying to make was merely this, the document refers to people as per the below, students who menstruate”, “young people menstruating” and “learners who menstruate”. You would assume that the overwhelming majority would happy to be referred to as women and girls, because that is what they are. The reaction from the women on Sky this morning concurred. They found the above terms offensive.
The overwhelming majority of British people are English.
By your argument, you believe that the rights of the minority are irrelevant.
Have to say, assuming he's healthy in all other respects, I think giving a one-armed man the "Bandit" nick is pretty funny. Thanks to an overdose of political correctness these days I guess it wold be OOL. Still difficult to resist a chuckle though.
There was lots of banter when I was growing up, none of it was politically correct, and you wouldnt get away with it today. Although it was never malicious, nobody sulked or cried, everybody tried to give as good as they got. Not having to worry about everything you said was probably a bit more fun.
I totally agree with you, but nowadays where does it start and stop? What was classed as 'Banter' is now considered 'Abuse/UN PC'.
You couldnt make some of it up.
Advice turns schoolgirls into ‘pupils who menstruate’
Government advice on free sanitary products in schools repeatedly referred to “students who menstruate” rather than to “girls”.
A document on the Department for Education (DfE) website detailed how providing menstrual products to girls did not disadvantage anyone under the Equality Act. Its wording angered women’s campaigners, however, who have warned of the dangers of alienating women and girls by using more inclusive gender-neutral language.
The seven-page 2020 memo told of “students who menstruate”, “young people menstruating” and “learners who menstruate”. There was one mention of “girls” and one of “women”, both in the footnotes, and two of “female”.
The wording was changed last night after The Times brought it to the attention of education chiefs. Sources said ministers had not been involved in
My youngest identifies as a man. Has done since he was 13. Goes by the legal name of Mr. First name Samuel. He menstruates. Even though he is most certainly not a "girl".
Schools have a difficult enough job to do. The Government position is correct. The DfE website is not. Not least because under-18s cannot have corrective surgery.
If anyone believes that someone who identifies as a girl but has male genitalia does need sanitary products, and the reverse does not, and believes neither is "disadvantaged" then they are an idiot.
PS. It is important to note that when people say "women's campaigners" they are normally referring to the LGB Alliance. A group of Gay people who believe Trans people should be exterminated.
I would hate to upset anyone on this topic, particularly through my lack of knowledge. So I wont say very much. I think that the era of political correctness, has meant that we now produce memos like this with a very small minority of people in mind. The fact that in doing so, they risk outraging the overwhelming majority doesnt seem to matter. I suppose that when I was growing up very small minorities seemed to accept that everything would not be perfect for them, and maybe that was the price they paid for being in a very small minority. They covered this story on Sky News this morning, the women were clearly not amused. I dont think we should deliberately set out to upset anyone, however small a minority, but every bit of political correctness seems to lead to more, there seem to be no bounds. Where will it end?
Completely agree. You have a lack of knowledge.
It is not "political correctness". It is as simple as ensuring, for example, that sanitary products go to the people that need them. That is just common sense.
It does not "outrage" the "overwhelming majority". At all. I speak from personal experience. So, for example, my youngest legally changed her gender and passport while under 18. Without my consent-in fact, I never knew until it was done.
You seriously believe Trans people believe everything will be perfect for them? Would that be the group that are statistically far more likely to take anti-depressants, to have mental health problems, to commit suicide? Oh. Pretty perfect.
"Price they paid"? How offensive is that!
The vast majority of people in this country are inclusive, decent human beings. Including, by and large, the Straight Community. Even old people, like you and me. Our language can be hopelessly outdated, and at times downright offensive, but Minorities know the difference between offensive and deliberately offensive. People tend to be curious. Not judgmental.
Attacks on Trans people are increasing. Primarily due to a hate group. The LGB Alliance. So-for example-the LGB Alliance campaign to stop schools making provision for Trans people. Straight people just believe it is part of life. Attack Stonewall for including Trans people. Attack Trans people on Pride marches.
Because a section of the Gay Community believe a different Minority should not exist.
We are not going to agree on this The point I was trying to make was merely this, the document refers to people as per the below, students who menstruate”, “young people menstruating” and “learners who menstruate”. You would assume that the overwhelming majority would happy to be referred to as women and girls, because that is what they are. The reaction from the women on Sky this morning concurred. They found the above terms offensive.
The overwhelming majority of British people are English.
By your argument, you believe that the rights of the minority are irrelevant.
OK if I refer to you as English, then?
You are putting words in my mouth. You dont seem to get that it was the women reviewing this article were offended by the terms used in it, not me.
Have to say, assuming he's healthy in all other respects, I think giving a one-armed man the "Bandit" nick is pretty funny. Thanks to an overdose of political correctness these days I guess it wold be OOL. Still difficult to resist a chuckle though.
There was lots of banter when I was growing up, none of it was politically correct, and you wouldnt get away with it today. Although it was never malicious, nobody sulked or cried, everybody tried to give as good as they got. Not having to worry about everything you said was probably a bit more fun.
I totally agree with you, but nowadays where does it start and stop? What was classed as 'Banter' is now considered 'Abuse/UN PC'.
You couldnt make some of it up.
Advice turns schoolgirls into ‘pupils who menstruate’
Government advice on free sanitary products in schools repeatedly referred to “students who menstruate” rather than to “girls”.
A document on the Department for Education (DfE) website detailed how providing menstrual products to girls did not disadvantage anyone under the Equality Act. Its wording angered women’s campaigners, however, who have warned of the dangers of alienating women and girls by using more inclusive gender-neutral language.
The seven-page 2020 memo told of “students who menstruate”, “young people menstruating” and “learners who menstruate”. There was one mention of “girls” and one of “women”, both in the footnotes, and two of “female”.
The wording was changed last night after The Times brought it to the attention of education chiefs. Sources said ministers had not been involved in
My youngest identifies as a man. Has done since he was 13. Goes by the legal name of Mr. First name Samuel. He menstruates. Even though he is most certainly not a "girl".
Schools have a difficult enough job to do. The Government position is correct. The DfE website is not. Not least because under-18s cannot have corrective surgery.
If anyone believes that someone who identifies as a girl but has male genitalia does need sanitary products, and the reverse does not, and believes neither is "disadvantaged" then they are an idiot.
PS. It is important to note that when people say "women's campaigners" they are normally referring to the LGB Alliance. A group of Gay people who believe Trans people should be exterminated.
I would hate to upset anyone on this topic, particularly through my lack of knowledge. So I wont say very much. I think that the era of political correctness, has meant that we now produce memos like this with a very small minority of people in mind. The fact that in doing so, they risk outraging the overwhelming majority doesnt seem to matter. I suppose that when I was growing up very small minorities seemed to accept that everything would not be perfect for them, and maybe that was the price they paid for being in a very small minority. They covered this story on Sky News this morning, the women were clearly not amused. I dont think we should deliberately set out to upset anyone, however small a minority, but every bit of political correctness seems to lead to more, there seem to be no bounds. Where will it end?
Completely agree. You have a lack of knowledge.
It is not "political correctness". It is as simple as ensuring, for example, that sanitary products go to the people that need them. That is just common sense.
It does not "outrage" the "overwhelming majority". At all. I speak from personal experience. So, for example, my youngest legally changed her gender and passport while under 18. Without my consent-in fact, I never knew until it was done.
You seriously believe Trans people believe everything will be perfect for them? Would that be the group that are statistically far more likely to take anti-depressants, to have mental health problems, to commit suicide? Oh. Pretty perfect.
"Price they paid"? How offensive is that!
The vast majority of people in this country are inclusive, decent human beings. Including, by and large, the Straight Community. Even old people, like you and me. Our language can be hopelessly outdated, and at times downright offensive, but Minorities know the difference between offensive and deliberately offensive. People tend to be curious. Not judgmental.
Attacks on Trans people are increasing. Primarily due to a hate group. The LGB Alliance. So-for example-the LGB Alliance campaign to stop schools making provision for Trans people. Straight people just believe it is part of life. Attack Stonewall for including Trans people. Attack Trans people on Pride marches.
Because a section of the Gay Community believe a different Minority should not exist.
Professor's fury at seeing man urinate in 'gender neutral' toilet
A woman is angry after finding a man using a urinal in a male bathroom that had been incorrectly labelled as gender-neutral.
Associate professor Sarahjane Jones, 35, attended a Health Research Authority (HRA) conference at the Science and Industry Museum, in Manchester, on Wednesday.
When she went to use the bathroom, she chose the one labelled ‘inclusive’ with a sign depicting a male, a female and a mix of the two.
She claims to have walked in on a man using a urinal, who she would have had to pass to get to a cubicle.
Sarahjane, who researches patient safety at Staffordshire University, later tweeted about her bathroom experience saying: ‘This is not an example of inclusively! And is wholly unacceptable.’
More than 1,000 people have since commented on the post, with one commentator calling it ‘insane’ and another writing: ‘Funny how this inclusion always excludes women’.
The museum has since confirmed it accidentally labelled this gender-neutral toilet as ‘inclusive’ when it was supposed to be just for men.
OK. I'll bite. How is this supposed to be in any way relevant?
Gender neutral toilets are supposed to provide separate cubicles, and no "communal" area. This one did not. And was clearly inappropriate. For absolutely everyone. Male. Female. And Transgender.
It has everything to do with wrong signage. And nothing whatsoever to do with anything else. Simply because it was not a gender neutral toilet.
It raised lots of questions for me, but I will look them up at some point, rather than debate them on here.
Have to say, assuming he's healthy in all other respects, I think giving a one-armed man the "Bandit" nick is pretty funny. Thanks to an overdose of political correctness these days I guess it wold be OOL. Still difficult to resist a chuckle though.
There was lots of banter when I was growing up, none of it was politically correct, and you wouldnt get away with it today. Although it was never malicious, nobody sulked or cried, everybody tried to give as good as they got. Not having to worry about everything you said was probably a bit more fun.
I totally agree with you, but nowadays where does it start and stop? What was classed as 'Banter' is now considered 'Abuse/UN PC'.
You couldnt make some of it up.
Advice turns schoolgirls into ‘pupils who menstruate’
Government advice on free sanitary products in schools repeatedly referred to “students who menstruate” rather than to “girls”.
A document on the Department for Education (DfE) website detailed how providing menstrual products to girls did not disadvantage anyone under the Equality Act. Its wording angered women’s campaigners, however, who have warned of the dangers of alienating women and girls by using more inclusive gender-neutral language.
The seven-page 2020 memo told of “students who menstruate”, “young people menstruating” and “learners who menstruate”. There was one mention of “girls” and one of “women”, both in the footnotes, and two of “female”.
The wording was changed last night after The Times brought it to the attention of education chiefs. Sources said ministers had not been involved in
My youngest identifies as a man. Has done since he was 13. Goes by the legal name of Mr. First name Samuel. He menstruates. Even though he is most certainly not a "girl".
Schools have a difficult enough job to do. The Government position is correct. The DfE website is not. Not least because under-18s cannot have corrective surgery.
If anyone believes that someone who identifies as a girl but has male genitalia does need sanitary products, and the reverse does not, and believes neither is "disadvantaged" then they are an idiot.
PS. It is important to note that when people say "women's campaigners" they are normally referring to the LGB Alliance. A group of Gay people who believe Trans people should be exterminated.
I would hate to upset anyone on this topic, particularly through my lack of knowledge. So I wont say very much. I think that the era of political correctness, has meant that we now produce memos like this with a very small minority of people in mind. The fact that in doing so, they risk outraging the overwhelming majority doesnt seem to matter. I suppose that when I was growing up very small minorities seemed to accept that everything would not be perfect for them, and maybe that was the price they paid for being in a very small minority. They covered this story on Sky News this morning, the women were clearly not amused. I dont think we should deliberately set out to upset anyone, however small a minority, but every bit of political correctness seems to lead to more, there seem to be no bounds. Where will it end?
Completely agree. You have a lack of knowledge.
It is not "political correctness". It is as simple as ensuring, for example, that sanitary products go to the people that need them. That is just common sense.
It does not "outrage" the "overwhelming majority". At all. I speak from personal experience. So, for example, my youngest legally changed her gender and passport while under 18. Without my consent-in fact, I never knew until it was done.
You seriously believe Trans people believe everything will be perfect for them? Would that be the group that are statistically far more likely to take anti-depressants, to have mental health problems, to commit suicide? Oh. Pretty perfect.
"Price they paid"? How offensive is that!
The vast majority of people in this country are inclusive, decent human beings. Including, by and large, the Straight Community. Even old people, like you and me. Our language can be hopelessly outdated, and at times downright offensive, but Minorities know the difference between offensive and deliberately offensive. People tend to be curious. Not judgmental.
Attacks on Trans people are increasing. Primarily due to a hate group. The LGB Alliance. So-for example-the LGB Alliance campaign to stop schools making provision for Trans people. Straight people just believe it is part of life. Attack Stonewall for including Trans people. Attack Trans people on Pride marches.
Because a section of the Gay Community believe a different Minority should not exist.
Patrick🕸 @STILLTish Advice turns schoolgirls into ‘pupils who menstruate’ | News | The Times
The comments! Great to see. Women are furious and noticing that @NHSEngland are removing “women” but not “men”. Who is trying to destroy public faith in the NHS?
Helen Joyce, of the advocacy group Sex Matters, said: “Replacing those ordinary words with ludicrous expressions ... reduces girls to their bodily functions and increases the stigma around menstruation, making it even harder for them to navigate puberty.”
Comments
He is employed by Pinnacle. As a Contract cleaner. Someone who is not his employer (Basildon Council) appear to have dispensed with this Contractor's services. It is not clear whether they continued to use Pinnacle.
I am struggling to see what the claim is here. Basildon didn't like his work. It must be a given that (just like able-bodied people) some disabled people are good at their job. And some not. And also that different contracting parties will themselves have different opinions. Clearly, Pinnacle rate him higher than Basildon.
I'm not saying he doesn't have a claim-just that the article doesn't say what it is.
Pinnacle clearly believe he is good at his job-as, at all times, they have continued to employ him.
Would be really useful-instead of concentrating on the "bandit" angle, to say who he is suing. And why.
Have to say, assuming he's healthy in all other respects, I think giving a one-armed man the "Bandit" nick is pretty funny. Thanks to an overdose of political correctness these days I guess it wold be OOL. Still difficult to resist a chuckle though.
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Although it was never malicious, nobody sulked or cried, everybody tried to give as good as they got.
Not having to worry about everything you said was probably a bit more fun.
Yes, exactly that.
Advice turns schoolgirls into ‘pupils who menstruate’
Government advice on free sanitary products in schools repeatedly referred to “students who menstruate” rather than to “girls”.
A document on the Department for Education (DfE) website detailed how providing menstrual products to girls did not disadvantage anyone under the Equality Act. Its wording angered women’s campaigners, however, who have warned of the dangers of alienating women and girls by using more inclusive gender-neutral language.
The seven-page 2020 memo told of “students who menstruate”, “young people menstruating” and “learners who menstruate”. There was one mention of “girls” and one of “women”, both in the footnotes, and two of “female”.
The wording was changed last night after The Times brought it to the attention of education chiefs. Sources said ministers had not been involved in
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/advice-turns-schoolgirls-into-pupils-who-menstruate-hxrr55kdz
Schools have a difficult enough job to do. The Government position is correct. The DfE website is not. Not least because under-18s cannot have corrective surgery.
If anyone believes that someone who identifies as a girl but has male genitalia does need sanitary products, and the reverse does not, and believes neither is "disadvantaged" then they are an idiot.
PS. It is important to note that when people say "women's campaigners" they are normally referring to the LGB Alliance. A group of Gay people who believe Trans people should be exterminated.
So I wont say very much.
I think that the era of political correctness, has meant that we now produce memos like this with a very small minority of people in mind.
The fact that in doing so, they risk outraging the overwhelming majority doesnt seem to matter.
I suppose that when I was growing up very small minorities seemed to accept that everything would not be perfect for them, and maybe that was the price they paid for being in a very small minority.
They covered this story on Sky News this morning, the women were clearly not amused.
I dont think we should deliberately set out to upset anyone, however small a minority, but every bit of political correctness seems to lead to more, there seem to be no bounds.
Where will it end?
It is not "political correctness". It is as simple as ensuring, for example, that sanitary products go to the people that need them. That is just common sense.
It does not "outrage" the "overwhelming majority". At all. I speak from personal experience. So, for example, my youngest legally changed her gender and passport while under 18. Without my consent-in fact, I never knew until it was done.
You seriously believe Trans people believe everything will be perfect for them? Would that be the group that are statistically far more likely to take anti-depressants, to have mental health problems, to commit suicide? Oh. Pretty perfect.
"Price they paid"? How offensive is that!
The vast majority of people in this country are inclusive, decent human beings. Including, by and large, the Straight Community. Even old people, like you and me. Our language can be hopelessly outdated, and at times downright offensive, but Minorities know the difference between offensive and deliberately offensive. People tend to be curious. Not judgmental.
Attacks on Trans people are increasing. Primarily due to a hate group. The LGB Alliance. So-for example-the LGB Alliance campaign to stop schools making provision for Trans people. Straight people just believe it is part of life. Attack Stonewall for including Trans people. Attack Trans people on Pride marches.
Because a section of the Gay Community believe a different Minority should not exist.
The point I was trying to make was merely this, the document refers to people as per the below,
students who menstruate”, “young people menstruating” and “learners who menstruate”.
You would assume that the overwhelming majority would happy to be referred to as women and girls, because that is what they are.
The reaction from the women on Sky this morning concurred.
They found the above terms offensive.
Professor's fury at seeing man urinate in 'gender neutral' toilet
A woman is angry after finding a man using a urinal in a male bathroom that had been incorrectly labelled as gender-neutral.
Associate professor Sarahjane Jones, 35, attended a Health Research Authority (HRA) conference at the Science and Industry Museum, in Manchester, on Wednesday.
When she went to use the bathroom, she chose the one labelled ‘inclusive’ with a sign depicting a male, a female and a mix of the two.
She claims to have walked in on a man using a urinal, who she would have had to pass to get to a cubicle.
Sarahjane, who researches patient safety at Staffordshire University, later tweeted about her bathroom experience saying: ‘This is not an example of inclusively! And is wholly unacceptable.’
More than 1,000 people have since commented on the post, with one commentator calling it ‘insane’ and another writing: ‘Funny how this inclusion always excludes women’.
The museum has since confirmed it accidentally labelled this gender-neutral toilet as ‘inclusive’ when it was supposed to be just for men.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/lifestyle/lifestylegeneral/professors-fury-at-seeing-man-urinate-in-gender-neutral-toilet/ar-AAYh3J9
Gender neutral toilets are supposed to provide separate cubicles, and no "communal" area. This one did not. And was clearly inappropriate. For absolutely everyone. Male. Female. And Transgender.
It has everything to do with wrong signage. And nothing whatsoever to do with anything else. Simply because it was not a gender neutral toilet.
By your argument, you believe that the rights of the minority are irrelevant.
OK if I refer to you as English, then?
You dont seem to get that it was the women reviewing this article were offended by the terms used in it, not me.
Patrick🕸
@STILLTish
Advice turns schoolgirls into ‘pupils who menstruate’ | News | The Times
The comments! Great to see. Women are furious and noticing that
@NHSEngland
are removing “women” but not “men”.
Who is trying to destroy public faith in the NHS?
Helen Joyce, of the advocacy group Sex Matters, said: “Replacing those ordinary words with ludicrous expressions ... reduces girls to their bodily functions and increases the stigma around menstruation, making it even harder for them to navigate puberty.”