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Finger Breaking Chess Robot.

HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,862
Chess robot grabs and breaks finger of seven-year-old opponent



https://uk.yahoo.com/news/chess-robot-grabs-breaks-finger-123752834.html

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  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,862
    When chess robots go bad: AI player grabs a seven-year-old boy and BREAKS his finger during tournament in Russia

    https://video.dailymail.co.uk/preview/mol/2022/07/24/3557773596583834061/636x382_MP4_3557773596583834061.mp4


    The robot grabbed the seven-year-old boy's finger because it was unsettled by his overly-quick movements, Russian media outlets reported, quoting the President of the Moscow Chess Federation - who seemingly blamed the child. 'The robot broke the child's finger - this, of course, is bad,' Sergey Lazarev told Russia's TASS news agency, while distancing his organisation from the robot. The incident occurred at the Moscow Open on July 19. Lazarev said that the federation had rented the robot for the event, which ran from July 13 to 21. Lazarev said that the machine had been hired for many previous events without incident, saying the boy went to move a piece too quickly after making a move. Video of the incident was published by the Baza Telegram channel, who said the boy's name was Christopher. Baza said he was among the 30 best chess players in Moscow in the under-nine age group category. According to The Guardian , Sergey Smagin, vice-president of the Russian Chess Federation, went even further in blaming the boy. 'There are certain safety rules and the child, apparently, violated them. When he made his move, he did not realise he first had to wait,' The Guardian quoted Smagin as saying. 'This is an extremely rare case, the first I can recall.'


    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11043807/Chess-robot-breaks-finger-seven-year-old-boy-tournament-Russia.html
  • CammykazeCammykaze Member Posts: 1,397
    Thinking of this scene:- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TstteJ1eIZg

    Robocop was a great film and a smart one seemingly. Future tripping!

    This isn't to make light of this one - the poor child and extremely rare case doesn't wash. That should NEVER have been the case. :o

  • CammykazeCammykaze Member Posts: 1,397
    This is while assuming what is reported is factual and exactly what happened. 👍
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,862
    Cammykaze said:

    This is while assuming what is reported is factual and exactly what happened. 👍

    The video looks quite clear?
  • TheEdge949TheEdge949 Member Posts: 5,686
    I got obliterated in 17 moves by a 9 year old from China the other day who then proceeded to offer me encouragement and advice.

    I really think I know how that robot felt.
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,862

    I got obliterated in 17 moves by a 9 year old from China the other day who then proceeded to offer me encouragement and advice.

    I really think I know how that robot felt.

    You should have broken his finger.
  • CammykazeCammykaze Member Posts: 1,397
    HAYSIE said:

    Cammykaze said:

    This is while assuming what is reported is factual and exactly what happened. 👍

    The video looks quite clear?
    Fair enough :smile:

    Have had a sleep over this one and a new thought has came to mind. Maybe the robot thought the child was cheating and he deserved a lesson in chess ethics - cheat and sore finger. :D
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,862
    Cammykaze said:

    HAYSIE said:

    Cammykaze said:

    This is while assuming what is reported is factual and exactly what happened. 👍

    The video looks quite clear?
    Fair enough :smile:

    Have had a sleep over this one and a new thought has came to mind. Maybe the robot thought the child was cheating and he deserved a lesson in chess ethics - cheat and sore finger. :D
    Do robots think?
  • TheEdge949TheEdge949 Member Posts: 5,686
    Apparently it's very common around our way. Just go into a Chinese takeaway and order a bag of chips. They all say "Do you want sore finger?"

    It's just a joke before the P.P. brigade break the accusing finger out.

    See what I did 2 for the price of 1?. You can't say I don't give value.
  • CammykazeCammykaze Member Posts: 1,397
    HAYSIE said:

    Cammykaze said:

    HAYSIE said:

    Cammykaze said:

    This is while assuming what is reported is factual and exactly what happened. 👍

    The video looks quite clear?
    Fair enough :smile:

    Have had a sleep over this one and a new thought has came to mind. Maybe the robot thought the child was cheating and he deserved a lesson in chess ethics - cheat and sore finger. :D
    Do robots think?
    Programmed to? :smile: take your point!
  • CammykazeCammykaze Member Posts: 1,397

    Apparently it's very common around our way. Just go into a Chinese takeaway and order a bag of chips. They all say "Do you want sore finger?"

    It's just a joke before the P.P. brigade break the accusing finger out.

    See what I did 2 for the price of 1?. You can't say I don't give value.

    Laughed at this as was sitting in a cafe and taking 5. Thanks for that!
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,862
    Cammykaze said:

    HAYSIE said:

    Cammykaze said:

    HAYSIE said:

    Cammykaze said:

    This is while assuming what is reported is factual and exactly what happened. 👍

    The video looks quite clear?
    Fair enough :smile:

    Have had a sleep over this one and a new thought has came to mind. Maybe the robot thought the child was cheating and he deserved a lesson in chess ethics - cheat and sore finger. :D
    Do robots think?
    Programmed to? :smile: take your point!
    I am not clever enough to explain what happened.
    The robot is presumably just programmed to play chess.
    Inflicting pain on someone taking the p155 out of you is a very human response, and not what the robot is programmed to do.
    I havent a clue how you would programme a robot to retaliate.
    When will the robots start strangling little chess players?

    There is a moral to the story, which is to save your best chess game for when you are playing a human, and if you are playing a robot, think for ages, make your moves slowly, and throw the game.
  • EssexphilEssexphil Member Posts: 8,780
    edited July 2022
    2 quick asides in relation to this.

    1. As a kid, I was a useful Chess player. Peaked at 11, when top-ranked age British player, and gradually slid back from there. At 16, I was Captain of Ilford Chess Club, and was still handy. Beaten by a 10-yr-old that I had seen around the Circuit, by the name of Neil Carr. I knew he had not followed up on his immense reputation (he was the World's best Junior), and had not seen him for years (think I last saw him on a poker table). Sad to discover that he had died at only 47, and just read his obit that was written by another Chess playing friend of many years. At 10, he was simply phenomenal

    2. When Chess computers started, there was a great feature that gave me endless joy. You could order it to swap sides, so as to become Black instead of White (or vice versa). Very handy when losing-you could almost hear the computer sulk :)
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,862
    Essexphil said:

    2 quick asides in relation to this.

    1. As a kid, I was a useful Chess player. Peaked at 11, when top-ranked age British player, and gradually slid back from there. At 16, I was Captain of Ilford Chess Club, and was still handy. Beaten by a 10-yr-old that I had seen around the Circuit, by the name of Neil Carr. I knew he had not followed up on his immense reputation (he was the World's best Junior), and had not seen him for years (think I last saw him on a poker table). Sad to discover that he had died at only 47, and just read his obit that was written by another Chess playing friend of many years. At 10, he was simply phenomenal

    2. When Chess computers started, there was a great feature that gave me endless joy. You could order it to swap sides, so as to become Black instead of White (or vice versa). Very handy when losing-you could almost hear the computer sulk :)

    You were extremely lucky that it just sulked.
    Look what they have escalated to these days.
    The sulking was just the start of things to come.
    They now break fingers.
    Whats next?
  • DoublemeDoubleme Member Posts: 2,150
    HAYSIE said:

    Essexphil said:

    2 quick asides in relation to this.

    1. As a kid, I was a useful Chess player. Peaked at 11, when top-ranked age British player, and gradually slid back from there. At 16, I was Captain of Ilford Chess Club, and was still handy. Beaten by a 10-yr-old that I had seen around the Circuit, by the name of Neil Carr. I knew he had not followed up on his immense reputation (he was the World's best Junior), and had not seen him for years (think I last saw him on a poker table). Sad to discover that he had died at only 47, and just read his obit that was written by another Chess playing friend of many years. At 10, he was simply phenomenal

    2. When Chess computers started, there was a great feature that gave me endless joy. You could order it to swap sides, so as to become Black instead of White (or vice versa). Very handy when losing-you could almost hear the computer sulk :)

    You were extremely lucky that it just sulked.
    Look what they have escalated to these days.
    The sulking was just the start of things to come.
    They now break fingers.
    Whats next?
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wSXl_XKXZAI
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