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We took back control...

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  • tai-gartai-gar Member Posts: 2,688
    Queue's at Dover - nothing to do with Brexit
    Staff shortages in NHS - nothing to do with Brexit
    Myriad of export paperwork - nothing to do with Brexit
    N I protocol problems - nothing to do with Brexit

    None of the above to do with Brexit - said the blind man
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,862
    How stupid do they think we are?
    The guy that runs the Port of Dover was on TV on Saturday blaming the French for the queues, as they didnt have enough staff.
    He was interviewed again, early on Sunday morning, and said he was happy to see that the French had plenty of staff.
    Yet the queues were longer on Sunday.
    The Dover MP said we had queues before Brexit as well as after.
    Therefore it was nothing to do with Brexit.
    So how can we blame the French then?
    I saw a young woman who had been stuck in traffic for 5 hours, on a journey that usually took 15 minutes.
    She wasnt going to the Port, she just got caught up in the traffic.
    Was she blaming the French?

    We used to have Freedom of Movement.
    Now we havent.
    We knew that any delays, like the addition of passport checks were likely create queues.
    So now we have got them.
    Why would it be a surprise?
  • VespaPXVespaPX Member Posts: 12,404
    "Re-wilding" the traffic at Dover


  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,862
    'We were trapped in our homes': Exasperated villagers reveal weekend of **** after 21-hour Dover delays and blame 'bl***y French' for leaving roads gridlocked with stuck drivers resorting to using roadsides as 'public urinals'




    Tens of thousands of families endured bedlam with children having to brush their teeth at the roadside before sleeping in their vehicles due to delays at passport check booths from Friday morning through to Sunday night. With a large stretch of the M20 closed to all but EU freight traffic under Operation Brock, local roads on the approach to the Port of Dover and the Eurotunnel at Folkestone came to a standstill - particularly the A2. It left local residents trapped in their own homes, with many families having to cancel their own planned outings because of the traffic woes. The community of Whitfield, on the outskirts of Dover and close to the A2, today lambasted the chaos and told of how some businesses were unable to open over the weekend.


    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11046643/Villagers-reveal-weekend-****-Dover-delays-left-roads-outside-houses-gridlocked.html
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,862
    Now French are blamed for passports 'meltdown' too! Paris-based firm is behind chaotic helpline that is blamed for huge queues outside passport offices as 550,000 wait for new documents



    Paris-based private firm Teleperformance was missing targets for dealing with calls and emails as long ago as May 2021.


    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11045707/Now-French-blamed-passports-meltdown-too.html
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,862
    There is one man to blame for the lorries backed up in Dover: Boris Johnson




    The Brexit slogan “Take back control” was always a lie. Boris Johnson, in a long boast about his so-called achievements in the Sunday Express yesterday, wrote that he “took back control of our borders”. Perhaps he should have visited the M20 in Dover, where thousands of immobile lorries are stacked up, and repeated this claim to their drivers. Under the EU, Britain’s borders were an issue negotiated with its neighbours. Under Brexit, the border at Dover is now controlled by France – and there is not a thing Britain can do about it. When we left the EU we lost all control.

    https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/there-is-one-man-to-blame-for-the-lorries-backed-up-in-dover-boris-johnson/ar-AAZWS7R?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=b0fac16d397043acb9ade3570303059a
  • EssexphilEssexphil Member Posts: 8,780
    HAYSIE said:

    There is one man to blame for the lorries backed up in Dover: Boris Johnson




    The Brexit slogan “Take back control” was always a lie. Boris Johnson, in a long boast about his so-called achievements in the Sunday Express yesterday, wrote that he “took back control of our borders”. Perhaps he should have visited the M20 in Dover, where thousands of immobile lorries are stacked up, and repeated this claim to their drivers. Under the EU, Britain’s borders were an issue negotiated with its neighbours. Under Brexit, the border at Dover is now controlled by France – and there is not a thing Britain can do about it. When we left the EU we lost all control.

    https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/there-is-one-man-to-blame-for-the-lorries-backed-up-in-dover-boris-johnson/ar-AAZWS7R?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=b0fac16d397043acb9ade3570303059a

    That article is as wildly inaccurate as the Boris bus.

    " The Tories have gone from being a free market party to a protectionist one, and it will cost the UK dear."

    Nonsense. The EU is not a "free market"-it is the World's biggest Protectionist club. There were certainly economic advantages to being in that club, for example the ability to tap in to Eastern European cheap labour. We have-rightly or wrongly-opted to plough our own furrow, rather than just be part of a highly protectionist club. Will that cost us money? Yes. But pretending we were in any way a "free market" economy within the EU is rubbish.

    "Not a day passes without news of a 50-page form to transport a single piano. British scientists cannot collaborate with European ones."

    This is as ridiculous as the "bendy bananas" claptrap anti-EU campaigners used to babble on about. Leaving to 1 side the fact that piano sales amount to about 40% of feck-all, whose forms are these? Those of a free market? We aren't introducing 50-page forms for EU imports. Perhaps we should.

    The EU is a highly polished economic machine. That varies its rules to suit its members, at the expense of non-members.

    But we survived without their help for thousands of years. Without a single currency. Without a single European Army. And-guess what? We'll survive again. Poorer, economically. But able to make our own ridiculous mistakes. Without hiding behind the EU's.
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,862
    Essexphil said:

    HAYSIE said:

    There is one man to blame for the lorries backed up in Dover: Boris Johnson




    The Brexit slogan “Take back control” was always a lie. Boris Johnson, in a long boast about his so-called achievements in the Sunday Express yesterday, wrote that he “took back control of our borders”. Perhaps he should have visited the M20 in Dover, where thousands of immobile lorries are stacked up, and repeated this claim to their drivers. Under the EU, Britain’s borders were an issue negotiated with its neighbours. Under Brexit, the border at Dover is now controlled by France – and there is not a thing Britain can do about it. When we left the EU we lost all control.

    https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/there-is-one-man-to-blame-for-the-lorries-backed-up-in-dover-boris-johnson/ar-AAZWS7R?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=b0fac16d397043acb9ade3570303059a

    That article is as wildly inaccurate as the Boris bus.

    " The Tories have gone from being a free market party to a protectionist one, and it will cost the UK dear."

    Nonsense. The EU is not a "free market"-it is the World's biggest Protectionist club. There were certainly economic advantages to being in that club, for example the ability to tap in to Eastern European cheap labour. We have-rightly or wrongly-opted to plough our own furrow, rather than just be part of a highly protectionist club. Will that cost us money? Yes. But pretending we were in any way a "free market" economy within the EU is rubbish.

    "Not a day passes without news of a 50-page form to transport a single piano. British scientists cannot collaborate with European ones."

    This is as ridiculous as the "bendy bananas" claptrap anti-EU campaigners used to babble on about. Leaving to 1 side the fact that piano sales amount to about 40% of feck-all, whose forms are these? Those of a free market? We aren't introducing 50-page forms for EU imports. Perhaps we should.

    The EU is a highly polished economic machine. That varies its rules to suit its members, at the expense of non-members.

    But we survived without their help for thousands of years. Without a single currency. Without a single European Army. And-guess what? We'll survive again. Poorer, economically. But able to make our own ridiculous mistakes. Without hiding behind the EU's.
    I just liked the headline.
    Didnt really need you to explore the technicalities.
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