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Maxine

HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,862
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A shocking new drama explores how Soham killer Ian Huntley's fiancée Maxine Carr became... Britain's most hated!
Double murder of Holly Wells and Jessica Chapman, both 10, by school caretaker Ian Huntley in Soham, is one of the most shocking crimes of the century
Drama Maxine focuses on his fiancée Maxine Carr, who gave him an alibi
Offers insight into relationship and explains why she'd cover up for Huntley




https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-11279233/Drama-explores-Soham-killer-Ian-Huntleys-fianc-e-Maxine-Carr-Britains-hated.html
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  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,862
    edited October 2022
    'Extraordinarily bad taste': Viewers disgusted by Channel 5 Soham murders drama 'Maxine'





    https://uk.yahoo.com/news/viewers-disgusted-channel-5-soham-murders-drama-maxine-095619326.html
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  • Allan23Allan23 Member Posts: 876
    On the same subject, the sort of cult hero/villain status Dahmer has been getting from a lot of young people on twitter etc has been pretty uncomfortable, imo
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  • EssexphilEssexphil Member Posts: 8,780
    edited October 2022
    I'm not watching this. Simply because it disgusts me.

    1 comment I would make is that we seem to project too much hate on to some wives and girlfriends in situations like this.

    I'm not defending the despicable actions of Maxine Carr for 1 minute. But she had nothing to do with the murder of those 2 poor girls. However awful it is that someone assists a murderer after the act, the fact remains that she was in no way as evil as Huntley.
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  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,862
    Essexphil said:

    I'm not watching this. Simply because it disgusts me.

    1 comment I would make is that we seem to project too much hate on to some wives and girlfriends in situations like this.

    I'm not defending the despicable actions of Maxine Carr for 1 minute. But she had nothing to do with the murder of those 2 poor girls. However awful it is that someone assists a murderer after the act, the fact remains that she was in no way as evil as Huntley.

    Reading the below makes it very difficult to understand how he was able to get the job in the first place.

    Ian Huntley


    https://www.biography.com/crime-figure/ian-huntley
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  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,862
    Essexphil said:

    I'm not watching this. Simply because it disgusts me.

    1 comment I would make is that we seem to project too much hate on to some wives and girlfriends in situations like this.

    I'm not defending the despicable actions of Maxine Carr for 1 minute. But she had nothing to do with the murder of those 2 poor girls. However awful it is that someone assists a murderer after the act, the fact remains that she was in no way as evil as Huntley.

    Maxine review – a show about the Soham murders that is both pointless and dangerous
    By focusing on Maxine Carr, this drama skates perilously close to lumping her in with her murderous lover Ian Huntley. Why isn’t it about the police failing to stop him instead?



    And Carr gave him the alibi he needed out of a combination of love, weakness, childhood damage and fear, just as women have always done for the violent men they live with. But little of this is explored in Maxine.

    In concentrating on her part in covering up the murders (of which she had no knowledge, though growing doubts), which is not comparable to the actual killing of two children and which was easily knocked down by the police once they got their act together, the drama skates perilously close to equating her behaviour with Huntley’s and following the age-old tradition of blaming the nearest woman for what a man has done.


    If there’s a meaningful story behind the Soham tragedy still to be told it is the failure to stop Huntley before he escalated to child murder. He was known to the police and social services after being accused of rape, underage sex and violence on numerous occasions. None of the arrests or charges resulted in a trial. His predilections were known locally and the Bichard inquiry set up after his murder conviction found that police had failed to share evidence and had deleted vital files about the risk he posed. Where’s the show about that? Carr is a bagatelle.

    https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2022/oct/10/maxine-review-a-show-about-the-soham-murders-that-is-both-pointless-and-dangerous
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  • EssexphilEssexphil Member Posts: 8,780
    HAYSIE said:

    Essexphil said:

    I'm not watching this. Simply because it disgusts me.

    1 comment I would make is that we seem to project too much hate on to some wives and girlfriends in situations like this.

    I'm not defending the despicable actions of Maxine Carr for 1 minute. But she had nothing to do with the murder of those 2 poor girls. However awful it is that someone assists a murderer after the act, the fact remains that she was in no way as evil as Huntley.

    Maxine review – a show about the Soham murders that is both pointless and dangerous
    By focusing on Maxine Carr, this drama skates perilously close to lumping her in with her murderous lover Ian Huntley. Why isn’t it about the police failing to stop him instead?



    And Carr gave him the alibi he needed out of a combination of love, weakness, childhood damage and fear, just as women have always done for the violent men they live with. But little of this is explored in Maxine.

    In concentrating on her part in covering up the murders (of which she had no knowledge, though growing doubts), which is not comparable to the actual killing of two children and which was easily knocked down by the police once they got their act together, the drama skates perilously close to equating her behaviour with Huntley’s and following the age-old tradition of blaming the nearest woman for what a man has done.


    If there’s a meaningful story behind the Soham tragedy still to be told it is the failure to stop Huntley before he escalated to child murder. He was known to the police and social services after being accused of rape, underage sex and violence on numerous occasions. None of the arrests or charges resulted in a trial. His predilections were known locally and the Bichard inquiry set up after his murder conviction found that police had failed to share evidence and had deleted vital files about the risk he posed. Where’s the show about that? Carr is a bagatelle.

    https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2022/oct/10/maxine-review-a-show-about-the-soham-murders-that-is-both-pointless-and-dangerous
    That is exactly what I was trying to say.

    Put rather better.
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  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,862
    Essexphil said:

    HAYSIE said:

    Essexphil said:

    I'm not watching this. Simply because it disgusts me.

    1 comment I would make is that we seem to project too much hate on to some wives and girlfriends in situations like this.

    I'm not defending the despicable actions of Maxine Carr for 1 minute. But she had nothing to do with the murder of those 2 poor girls. However awful it is that someone assists a murderer after the act, the fact remains that she was in no way as evil as Huntley.

    Maxine review – a show about the Soham murders that is both pointless and dangerous
    By focusing on Maxine Carr, this drama skates perilously close to lumping her in with her murderous lover Ian Huntley. Why isn’t it about the police failing to stop him instead?



    And Carr gave him the alibi he needed out of a combination of love, weakness, childhood damage and fear, just as women have always done for the violent men they live with. But little of this is explored in Maxine.

    In concentrating on her part in covering up the murders (of which she had no knowledge, though growing doubts), which is not comparable to the actual killing of two children and which was easily knocked down by the police once they got their act together, the drama skates perilously close to equating her behaviour with Huntley’s and following the age-old tradition of blaming the nearest woman for what a man has done.


    If there’s a meaningful story behind the Soham tragedy still to be told it is the failure to stop Huntley before he escalated to child murder. He was known to the police and social services after being accused of rape, underage sex and violence on numerous occasions. None of the arrests or charges resulted in a trial. His predilections were known locally and the Bichard inquiry set up after his murder conviction found that police had failed to share evidence and had deleted vital files about the risk he posed. Where’s the show about that? Carr is a bagatelle.

    https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2022/oct/10/maxine-review-a-show-about-the-soham-murders-that-is-both-pointless-and-dangerous
    That is exactly what I was trying to say.

    Put rather better.
    I get that.
    Thats why I posted it.
    Dont know about better, but certainly more detail.
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  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,862
    Essexphil said:

    HAYSIE said:

    Essexphil said:

    I'm not watching this. Simply because it disgusts me.

    1 comment I would make is that we seem to project too much hate on to some wives and girlfriends in situations like this.

    I'm not defending the despicable actions of Maxine Carr for 1 minute. But she had nothing to do with the murder of those 2 poor girls. However awful it is that someone assists a murderer after the act, the fact remains that she was in no way as evil as Huntley.

    Maxine review – a show about the Soham murders that is both pointless and dangerous
    By focusing on Maxine Carr, this drama skates perilously close to lumping her in with her murderous lover Ian Huntley. Why isn’t it about the police failing to stop him instead?



    And Carr gave him the alibi he needed out of a combination of love, weakness, childhood damage and fear, just as women have always done for the violent men they live with. But little of this is explored in Maxine.

    In concentrating on her part in covering up the murders (of which she had no knowledge, though growing doubts), which is not comparable to the actual killing of two children and which was easily knocked down by the police once they got their act together, the drama skates perilously close to equating her behaviour with Huntley’s and following the age-old tradition of blaming the nearest woman for what a man has done.


    If there’s a meaningful story behind the Soham tragedy still to be told it is the failure to stop Huntley before he escalated to child murder. He was known to the police and social services after being accused of rape, underage sex and violence on numerous occasions. None of the arrests or charges resulted in a trial. His predilections were known locally and the Bichard inquiry set up after his murder conviction found that police had failed to share evidence and had deleted vital files about the risk he posed. Where’s the show about that? Carr is a bagatelle.

    https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2022/oct/10/maxine-review-a-show-about-the-soham-murders-that-is-both-pointless-and-dangerous
    That is exactly what I was trying to say.

    Put rather better.
    The police didnt come out of it well.
    The Headmaster was negligent.
    Despite the red flag that Huntley had changed his name, came up in the interview.
    He didnt ensure the background checks were done.
    Had they been done, Huntley couldnt have got the job.
    What is more important than protecting the children in your care.

    I cant understand this omission.
    Anyone in that position would surely have a system.
    The receipt of a good background check would surely preempt the job offer.
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