To be honest, when I watch a football match, or look at a set of results, in every game I have a preference for one or the other. I don't dislike any teams, none at all, but I like some more than others.
I have no time for people who hate other teams, which is something we see a lot in the big rivalries - Man U/Man C, Everton/Liverpool, Spurs/Chelsea etc.
Just WFC & England for me. Though I do have a bit of a soft spot for Augsburg, over in southern Germany. Took a day trip from Munich to watch them once - great experience. Won me a bit of dosh too. They were also chosen as our "German equivalent" in some fanzine / article back during Covid when only the Bundesliga was playing and the PL hadn't restarted yet. I do like the European leagues, I have to say.
I agree that we have to be careful with the use of the word "hate". There is far too much of it in football, and rivalry shouldn't descend into hatred, though in many cases, it does.
Just WFC & England for me. Though I do have a bit of a soft spot for Augsburg, over in southern Germany. Took a day trip from Munich to watch them once - great experience. Won me a bit of dosh too. They were also chosen as our "German equivalent" in some fanzine / article back during Covid when only the Bundesliga was playing and the PL hadn't restarted yet. I do like the European leagues, I have to say.
I agree that we have to be careful with the use of the word "hate". There is far too much of it in football, and rivalry shouldn't descend into hatred, though in many cases, it does.
Watford, goodness me. Bit of a Manager's revolving door there thanks to the Pozzos.
I've probably been to Vicarage Road more times than to any other stadium (except Brentford), but not for football, I used to go there to see the greyhound racing. Can't remember exactly when that was, but I fancy it was around the early to mid seventies. Was a terrible track, very sharp, but easy to find winners.
No, that was just a random 'photo I found on google & was clearly from an earlier era. I only ever saw 6 dog racing there. In fact the only place I recall seeing 8 dog races in the UK was Crayford.
Greyhounds left Watford for many years until the GRA granted them a new licence in the 70's based on a contract to supply BAGS racing 2 or 3 afternoons every week. Was quite well attended, with 4 or 5 bookies pitches. Before racing, we'd go to a Betting Shop to back reverse forecast doubles through an 8 race card (112 bets as I recall, so at 10p a line, £11.20), usually combos of 1-2, 1-6 & 5-6. Then at the track we'd bet with the bookies or the Nanny.
Fun times.
I used to go to Hackney Wick every week too, and occasionally Walthamstow, Hendon, Haringey, Wimbledon, White City & Slough. They are all closed now of course. (Hendon became the site for Brent Cross Shopping Centre, Slough became a Sainsburys).
I remember you saying you've been to Owlerton dogs a few times too. I used to go down there occasionally in the '80's with my boss from Hallamshire Golf Club. One of the members (Dave Ellis) was a bookies clerk at the track, and he would give us two dogs to back, as long as we didn't back them with his firm....... they would ALWAYS win
Dave Allen (who I believe you know too) bought the track and surrounding area, and built Napoleons Casino next door, to go with the one I used to frequent just up the road from where I lived on 'Eccy' Road...... before I played Poker though sadly.
Happy memories for sure
At the last SPT, I saw that there was a Napoleons Casino on Portland Street in Manchester, so I asked the door staff and Dave's still the owner, and obviously still expanding
I remember you saying you've been to Owlerton dogs a few times too. I used to go down there occasionally in the '80's with my boss from Hallamshire Golf Club. One of the members (Dave Ellis) was a bookies clerk at the track, and he would give us two dogs to back, as long as we didn't back them with his firm....... they would ALWAYS win
Dave Allen (who I believe you know too) bought the track and surrounding area, and built Napoleons Casino next door, to go with the one I used to frequent just up the road from where I lived on 'Eccy' Road...... before I played Poker though sadly.
Happy memories for sure
At the last SPT, I saw that there was a Napoleons Casino on Portland Street in Manchester, so I asked the door staff and Dave's still the owner, and obviously still expanding
Ahh yes, Naps at Owlerton, great memories, though I never went for the dogs, just to play poker. Won one of their Festival Comps actually, and it was one we were filming for one of the TV Shows. My co-presenter was Dave "Compo" Compton who was later to disappear in mysterious circumstances. GREAT Presenter & a top top bloke. So it was quite cool to win the Tourney & then do the commentary for it. I was proper chuffed.
And yes, I knew Dave Allen quite well. VERY wealthy bloke. As I'm sure you know, he was a Director of Sheffield Wednesday for some years - never a popular one, & I believe he owned 10% of the club. He later owned Chesterfield for a while too. No idea if he is still alive, if he is he'd likely be in his 80's now. Did a lot of charity stuff.
Naps Owlerton was the only poker room I've ever been that had a 200 denom chip. God knows why, I never understood. Place used to be heaving, & players would buy 8 or 10 seats in advance & sell them at a mark-up. (There was no such thing as Late Entry in those days). The tables were massive, standard seating was 12 to a table, but on occasion we'd sit as many as 15 to a table. Smoking was allowed at the table too, so we all had an ashtray & our eyes would be stinging from the clouds of smoke. Thewy & the late George Geary always bought along a little fan to clear the smoke.
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Surely everyone has at least a "second team"?
To be honest, when I watch a football match, or look at a set of results, in every game I have a preference for one or the other. I don't dislike any teams, none at all, but I like some more than others.
I have no time for people who hate other teams, which is something we see a lot in the big rivalries - Man U/Man C, Everton/Liverpool, Spurs/Chelsea etc.
I can't imagine hating a football team.
Just WFC & England for me. Though I do have a bit of a soft spot for Augsburg, over in southern Germany. Took a day trip from Munich to watch them once - great experience. Won me a bit of dosh too. They were also chosen as our "German equivalent" in some fanzine / article back during Covid when only the Bundesliga was playing and the PL hadn't restarted yet. I do like the European leagues, I have to say.
I agree that we have to be careful with the use of the word "hate". There is far too much of it in football, and rivalry shouldn't descend into hatred, though in many cases, it does.
@tomb1793
Watford, goodness me. Bit of a Manager's revolving door there thanks to the Pozzos.
I've probably been to Vicarage Road more times than to any other stadium (except Brentford), but not for football, I used to go there to see the greyhound racing. Can't remember exactly when that was, but I fancy it was around the early to mid seventies. Was a terrible track, very sharp, but easy to find winners.
I noticed you've managed to photo-shop the Year from the poster Tony.....
..... but you forgot that 5 figure phone numbers went 'out with the Ark' !
Were they 8 dogs per race? ......otherwise they would be losing money
No, that was just a random 'photo I found on google & was clearly from an earlier era. I only ever saw 6 dog racing there. In fact the only place I recall seeing 8 dog races in the UK was Crayford.
Greyhounds left Watford for many years until the GRA granted them a new licence in the 70's based on a contract to supply BAGS racing 2 or 3 afternoons every week. Was quite well attended, with 4 or 5 bookies pitches. Before racing, we'd go to a Betting Shop to back reverse forecast doubles through an 8 race card (112 bets as I recall, so at 10p a line, £11.20), usually combos of 1-2, 1-6 & 5-6. Then at the track we'd bet with the bookies or the Nanny.
Fun times.
I used to go to Hackney Wick every week too, and occasionally Walthamstow, Hendon, Haringey, Wimbledon, White City & Slough. They are all closed now of course. (Hendon became the site for Brent Cross Shopping Centre, Slough became a Sainsburys).
I could go on & on. Probably best I don't.
I remember you saying you've been to Owlerton dogs a few times too. I used to go down there occasionally in the '80's with my boss from Hallamshire Golf Club. One of the members (Dave Ellis) was a bookies clerk at the track, and he would give us two dogs to back, as long as we didn't back them with his firm....... they would ALWAYS win
Dave Allen (who I believe you know too) bought the track and surrounding area, and built Napoleons Casino next door, to go with the one I used to frequent just up the road from where I lived on 'Eccy' Road...... before I played Poker though sadly.
Happy memories for sure
At the last SPT, I saw that there was a Napoleons Casino on Portland Street in Manchester, so I asked the door staff and Dave's still the owner, and obviously still expanding
@MISTY4ME
Ahh yes, Naps at Owlerton, great memories, though I never went for the dogs, just to play poker. Won one of their Festival Comps actually, and it was one we were filming for one of the TV Shows. My co-presenter was Dave "Compo" Compton who was later to disappear in mysterious circumstances. GREAT Presenter & a top top bloke. So it was quite cool to win the Tourney & then do the commentary for it. I was proper chuffed.
https://pokerdb.thehendonmob.com/event.php?a=r&n=44096
I played at Eccs (Ecclestone Road) too.
And yes, I knew Dave Allen quite well. VERY wealthy bloke. As I'm sure you know, he was a Director of Sheffield Wednesday for some years - never a popular one, & I believe he owned 10% of the club. He later owned Chesterfield for a while too. No idea if he is still alive, if he is he'd likely be in his 80's now. Did a lot of charity stuff.
Naps Owlerton was the only poker room I've ever been that had a 200 denom chip. God knows why, I never understood. Place used to be heaving, & players would buy 8 or 10 seats in advance & sell them at a mark-up. (There was no such thing as Late Entry in those days). The tables were massive, standard seating was 12 to a table, but on occasion we'd sit as many as 15 to a table. Smoking was allowed at the table too, so we all had an ashtray & our eyes would be stinging from the clouds of smoke. Thewy & the late George Geary always bought along a little fan to clear the smoke.
I really must stop reminiscing...
Here's George, God bless his soul, with his fan.