Black trainee solicitor stopped by police for ‘looking suspicious’ on way to meet client

HAYSIE

He has featured on this forum before in another similar incident.


Police officer 'stopped grabbing Black athlete when told he was being recorded'




https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/police-officer-stopped-grabbing-black-athlete-when-told-he-was-being-recorded/ar-AA183ynd?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=f5baf902d40742ee95a3d03bc256a85d&ei=47

HAYSIE

Met officers face gross misconduct inquiry over Bianca Williams search




Police officers involved in the stopping, searching and handcuffing of the British sprinter Bianca Williams and her partner are now under investigation for gross misconduct over alleged racism and dishonesty, the Guardian has learned.

Williams and Ricardo dos Santos were stopped on 4 July last year in north-west London by officers from the Metropolitan police’s Territorial Support Group.

They were searched on suspicion of having drugs and weapons, with none found, while their three-month-old son was in the back seat.

The investigation by the Independent Office for Police Conduct began into lower-level misconduct claims against five officers.

But in an intensification of the proceedings, the formal investigation has now become more serious after new evidence was unearthed by investigators.

Three Met officers have been notified by the IOPC they are under investigation for gross misconduct. If proven, the maximum penalty is dismissal.

All of these three officers are being investigated for whether their actions were influenced by racial bias.

Two of those are also being investigated for whether they acted dishonestly. The police basis for searching the two elite athletes was that officers believed they could smell cannabis.

Three other officers are under investigation for misconduct offences, one of whom is facing an allegation they may have acted in a discriminatory way.

The issuing of discipline notices does not mean charges will follow and all officers are understood to deny wrongdoing.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/met-officers-face-gross-misconduct-inquiry-over-bianca-williams-search/ar-AALFt4n?ocid=msedgntp

tai-gar

The smell should have been quite obvious they had a 3 month old baby in the car. Canof …. Not cannabis.

HAYSIE

Bianca Williams search: Met Police officers to face gross-misconduct hearings




https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-61236308

HAYSIE

Lessons were obviously learned.

HAYSIE

Black trainee solicitor stopped by police for ‘looking suspicious’ on way to meet client


https://uk.yahoo.com/news/black-trainee-solicitor-stopped-police-074826688.html

Tikay10

I'm reminded of this classic sketch from "Not the 9 o'clock News" on BBC around 40 years ago.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g9ZNA3yGUo8

HAYSIE

Tikay10 said:

I'm reminded of this classic sketch from "Not the 9 o'clock News" on BBC around 40 years ago.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g9ZNA3yGUo8

Very appropriate.

Enut

Tikay10 said:

I'm reminded of this classic sketch from "Not the 9 o'clock News" on BBC around 40 years ago.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g9ZNA3yGUo8

Some of the younger generation would assume that this is a documentary.

HAYSIE

Enut said:

Tikay10 said:

I'm reminded of this classic sketch from "Not the 9 o'clock News" on BBC around 40 years ago.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g9ZNA3yGUo8

Some of the younger generation would assume that this is a documentary.

Some older people would also assume it was.

Essexphil

Profiling, racial or otherwise, has always been a contentious subject.

I recall many years ago, when I was doing my Solicitors' course in Chester, there was a very personable Black trainee Solicitor in my class. He once told me he had been stopped 6 times in a week while driving his car in a very posh village between Manchester & Chester.

He complained about what he considered amounted to both racial profiling & harassment. The police replied that it was his fault for driving an expensive car in an exclusive village. His reply?

"I live here".

HAYSIE

Essexphil said:

Profiling, racial or otherwise, has always been a contentious subject.

I recall many years ago, when I was doing my Solicitors' course in Chester, there was a very personable Black trainee Solicitor in my class. He once told me he had been stopped 6 times in a week while driving his car in a very posh village between Manchester & Chester.

He complained about what he considered amounted to both racial profiling & harassment. The police replied that it was his fault for driving an expensive car in an exclusive village. His reply?

"I live here".

I like Chester.
I stayed there for a month in my younger days.
My apologies if you feel outdone, but my visit was to attend a far more prestigious training course.
It was a Top Rank Bingo, deputy managers course.

Essexphil

HAYSIE said:

Essexphil said:

Profiling, racial or otherwise, has always been a contentious subject.

I recall many years ago, when I was doing my Solicitors' course in Chester, there was a very personable Black trainee Solicitor in my class. He once told me he had been stopped 6 times in a week while driving his car in a very posh village between Manchester & Chester.

He complained about what he considered amounted to both racial profiling & harassment. The police replied that it was his fault for driving an expensive car in an exclusive village. His reply?

"I live here".

I like Chester.
I stayed there for a month in my younger days.
My apologies if you feel outdone, but my visit was to attend a far more prestigious training course.
It was a Top Rank Bingo, deputy managers course.

Agreed. Both that Chester is a really nice place. And the course

HAYSIE

Essexphil said:

HAYSIE said:

Essexphil said:

Profiling, racial or otherwise, has always been a contentious subject.

I recall many years ago, when I was doing my Solicitors' course in Chester, there was a very personable Black trainee Solicitor in my class. He once told me he had been stopped 6 times in a week while driving his car in a very posh village between Manchester & Chester.

He complained about what he considered amounted to both racial profiling & harassment. The police replied that it was his fault for driving an expensive car in an exclusive village. His reply?

"I live here".

I like Chester.
I stayed there for a month in my younger days.
My apologies if you feel outdone, but my visit was to attend a far more prestigious training course.
It was a Top Rank Bingo, deputy managers course.

Agreed. Both that Chester is a really nice place. And the course

It is still apparently legal to shoot Welshmen after midnight with a longbow, up there.

Bean81

Very difficult for white people to know what it's like to be black. Fella at work had been turned away from a couple of places in London because "we don't let your kind in here". Yeah, accountants are not what you need....

The only insight I occasionally get is like being in Boots yesterday. I had a bag on my back and buying razor blades, which meant staff and undercover store detectives followed me around the store. I've not had that for a while as I hit middle age. It did get me wondering if that's what it's like to be a young black man all the time.

Essexphil

Bean81 said:

Very difficult for white people to know what it's like to be black. Fella at work had been turned away from a couple of places in London because "we don't let your kind in here". Yeah, accountants are not what you need....

The only insight I occasionally get is like being in Boots yesterday. I had a bag on my back and buying razor blades, which meant staff and undercover store detectives followed me around the store. I've not had that for a while as I hit middle age. It did get me wondering if that's what it's like to be a young black man all the time.

Completely agree. There are certain similarities experienced by some white minorities, but the skin colour makes prejudice much more immediate and obvious.

1 thing that sticks in my mind is that I worked with a Jamaican Lady many years ago, who taught me so much. As an example, we tend to refer to Black, or Afro-Caribbean as 1 group. Whereas, in reality, a typical Jamaican is culturally totally different to (say) a typical West African. Or someone from the Indian sub-continent from someone with the same heritage but 2 generations of living in East Africa.

Another is the great quote from the wonderful Stevie Wonder. When asked how he had managed to overcome the disability of being blind, replied:-

"It could be worse. I could be Black."

green_beer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rnic87vEUXU