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Junior doctors' strike: Patient care 'on a knife edge' as up to 350,000 appointments could be cancelled during four-day walkout


https://uk.yahoo.com/news/junior-doctors-strike-patient-care-231700615.html

Essexphil

HAYSIE said:

This is totally misleading. A Junior Doctor will only be earning £14 per hour if:-

1. He is in his first year of training
2. He only works 9-5
3. He has no specialist training
4. He does not work in London

All Junior Doctors progress and move up the pay scales. So-nodal point 1 is £28k-odd. Which might seem low, but they are essentially a Trainee. And that automatically goes up by £6,000 in year 2. Nodal point 5 is £56k-odd. Then progress to Consultant/GP etc, where pay is (again) considerably higher.

Then there is the unsocial hours payments, the Final Salary Pension scheme, etc.

Could you make a clear case for starting salaries to rise substantially? Yes. But that is not what the BMA are seeking. They demand a 35% across the board rise. So (for example) pay Bands for Junior Doctors giving everyone a pay rise of between £10k and £20k per annum.

And this "pay has been eroded" bit. It is true for everyone. All of us. Not just Doctors.

If Doctors value their pay higher than the safety of their patients, they are in the wrong job. This strike is not just going to impact at the edges. Hundreds of thousands will have extra pain. And people will die.

I'm not saying Doctors cannot take any industrial action. But this goes too far. Shame on them.

HAYSIE

Essexphil said:

HAYSIE said:

This is totally misleading. A Junior Doctor will only be earning £14 per hour if:-

1. He is in his first year of training
2. He only works 9-5
3. He has no specialist training
4. He does not work in London

All Junior Doctors progress and move up the pay scales. So-nodal point 1 is £28k-odd. Which might seem low, but they are essentially a Trainee. And that automatically goes up by £6,000 in year 2. Nodal point 5 is £56k-odd. Then progress to Consultant/GP etc, where pay is (again) considerably higher.

Then there is the unsocial hours payments, the Final Salary Pension scheme, etc.

Could you make a clear case for starting salaries to rise substantially? Yes. But that is not what the BMA are seeking. They demand a 35% across the board rise. So (for example) pay Bands for Junior Doctors giving everyone a pay rise of between £10k and £20k per annum.

And this "pay has been eroded" bit. It is true for everyone. All of us. Not just Doctors.

If Doctors value their pay higher than the safety of their patients, they are in the wrong job. This strike is not just going to impact at the edges. Hundreds of thousands will have extra pain. And people will die.

I'm not saying Doctors cannot take any industrial action. But this goes too far. Shame on them.

They seem to be very quickly losing public sympathy.

stokefc

35% is ridiculously high and i know go in high then negotiate to something more reasonable but the government won't even sit down at that starting point, the union should have been working on this at least 5 years ago to get the pay rises inclimentally from then to now and in the future

HAYSIE