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  • EssexphilEssexphil Member Posts: 8,846
    That's insane.

    He had 9.3 million chips. He 3-bets to 3.6 million from a 9.3 million stack & then folds??
  • F_IvanovicF_Ivanovic Member Posts: 2,412
    5.7m to win 28m, only needs 20% equity. BB shoving range is QQ+, AK and maybe some combos of A5s (debatable). UTG calling range is KK, AA and AKs/QQ sometimes (AKo is a clear fold) JJ likely to have between 17 and 22% equity being genrous.. that's before ICM.

    So yeah, a very good, disciplined fold.
  • EssexphilEssexphil Member Posts: 8,846
    edited June 2023

    5.7m to win 28m, only needs 20% equity. BB shoving range is QQ+, AK and maybe some combos of A5s (debatable). UTG calling range is KK, AA and AKs/QQ sometimes (AKo is a clear fold) JJ likely to have between 17 and 22% equity being genrous.. that's before ICM.

    So yeah, a very good, disciplined fold.

    I did not make myself sufficiently clear.

    It is his 3-bet sizing that seems off to me. It needed to be either larger or smaller. As played, he has left himself with (without seeing cards) roughly 20% equity on a 5/1 shove or fold.

    Any other 3-bet sizing gives him a better option than 5/1

    I expect his thought process was call to 1 shove, fold to 2. Interesting spot to be in, though
  • SCOTFOXSCOTFOX Member Posts: 213
    He has asked a question and got a definative answer. He is either an even money shot or 2/13 dog if the other guy has a bigger pair than Jacks. Easy fold in that spot in a big comp.in my opinion
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 36,467
    edited June 2023
    1 Chris Brewer United States $5,293,556
    2 Artur Martirosian Russia $3,271,666
    3 Martin Kabrhel Czech Republic $2,279,038
    4 Alex Kulev Bulgaria $1,632,005
    5 Chance Kornuth United States $1,202,318
    6 Dan Smith United States $912,022


    https://www.pokernews.com/tours/wsop/2023-wsop/event-40-250-000-super-high-roller/
  • Tikay10Tikay10 Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 171,209

    Excellent thread, more like this please.
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 36,467
    edited June 2023
    If this hand had been dealt on Sky, at least another 6 "its rigged" threads would have been started up.
  • EssexphilEssexphil Member Posts: 8,846
    HAYSIE said:

    If this hand had been dealt on Sky, at least another 6 "its rigged" threads would have been started up.

    Last hand would have had team "its rigged" out in force ;)

    A7 v AK. K95r flop. Turn 8. River 6!

    Hits a 1.92% runner-runner for the extra $2 million.

    That must have hurt...
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 36,467
    Essexphil said:

    HAYSIE said:

    If this hand had been dealt on Sky, at least another 6 "its rigged" threads would have been started up.

    Last hand would have had team "its rigged" out in force ;)

    A7 v AK. K95r flop. Turn 8. River 6!

    Hits a 1.92% runner-runner for the extra $2 million.

    That must have hurt...
    Its a terrific win from where he was at the end of this hand.
  • EssexphilEssexphil Member Posts: 8,846
    HAYSIE said:

    Essexphil said:

    HAYSIE said:

    If this hand had been dealt on Sky, at least another 6 "its rigged" threads would have been started up.

    Last hand would have had team "its rigged" out in force ;)

    A7 v AK. K95r flop. Turn 8. River 6!

    Hits a 1.92% runner-runner for the extra $2 million.

    That must have hurt...
    Its a terrific win from where he was at the end of this hand.
    Completely agree.

    Mixture of a large amount of skill and winning the flips
  • F_IvanovicF_Ivanovic Member Posts: 2,412
    Essexphil said:

    5.7m to win 28m, only needs 20% equity. BB shoving range is QQ+, AK and maybe some combos of A5s (debatable). UTG calling range is KK, AA and AKs/QQ sometimes (AKo is a clear fold) JJ likely to have between 17 and 22% equity being genrous.. that's before ICM.

    So yeah, a very good, disciplined fold.

    I did not make myself sufficiently clear.

    It is his 3-bet sizing that seems off to me. It needed to be either larger or smaller. As played, he has left himself with (without seeing cards) roughly 20% equity on a 5/1 shove or fold.

    Any other 3-bet sizing gives him a better option than 5/1

    I expect his thought process was call to 1 shove, fold to 2. Interesting spot to be in, though
    I don't think a bigger 3b makes sense because you don't want to pot commit yourself in a cooler situation. The idea with the 3b is to be able to get away vs 2 shoves which you can still do despite getting good pot odds (due to ICM + actual equity)

    So, why not go smaller? Well probably because he doesn't want UTG to flat. He probably has 2 3b sizes in this spot. One - a smaller size with hands that don't mind so much if UTG flats or jams (AA-QQ, AKs for value - bluffs - KQs, KJs, A5s) and a bigger size with hands that want to pot commit or bluffs that can still fold (JJ-TT, sometimes QQ, AKo) KQo or AQo might be the bluffs that are folding.

    These hands benefit more from the fold equity.
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