I'd be really interested to learn what most women think about this. I've got mixed thoughts and accept that a middle-aged man's view isn't as valid as the majority of women here.
My original thinking from watching the video in real time is that this just looks like an elated man overwhelmed with emotion. Kissing somebody in celebration isn't irregular in football in big moments. It was definitely more common 15+ years ago however and particular to same sex kissing.
I then started thinking about a regular job. Can you imagine if your opposite sex boss planted one on your lips after sealing a big deal? It just wouldn't happen and would be so weird and awkward. Would I think it was an abuse of power? No. Would it be weird from that point on? Almost definitely. Football isn't a regular job however, so I think this issue if more of a grey area. It seems that an apology should be more than enough.
I think it is difficult to find a relevant comparison. This happened immediately after they won the World Cup. They all must have been on a massive high. I accept that he shouldnt have done it. Although I would forgive him for doing it in the heat of the moment. This should have been resolved by the two people involved. I also think that bad feeling surrounding the incident was put in motion 12 months ago.
At some point in the future we will see female coaches of mens teams. I simply cant imagine that there would the same reaction to a female coach giving a male player a peck on the lips.
Well done for winning the World Cup, you are fired.
Another way to look at his request- putting to one side his crotch grab to show his masculinity- for a 'peck' that's one the cheek- or both as in Europe not hold her head so she couldn't turn sideways, then on the lips....
it was like watching @HAYSIE and @MISTY4ME meeting up at the SPT's
Sack him, move on
We asked people in Madrid what they thought of World Cup kiss row - their response was 'eye-opening'
The fallout from that kiss at the World Cup winning ceremony has overshadowed Spain's win and sparked a national debate.
The story has been hugely inflamed by the subsequent behaviour of Luis Rubiales, the man who planted the unwanted kiss and the recently suspended boss of Spanish football.
He's declared himself the victim of a witch hunt and Spain's FA threatened the player he kissed, Jenni Hermoso, with legal action for declaring the act non-consensual.
In Madrid, many people we spoke to think Mr Rubiales does not deserve the backlash he's received.
In Plaza de Santa Ana, a busy square in the city centre where locals and visitors enjoy early evening drinks, a group of young women did not want to be identified and were reluctant to speak up on the story.
However they said the response to Mr Rubiales and the kiss has been overblown.
We approached another larger group of men and women and we found a similar opinion among them.
Maria Gomez was among the group. She told me: "It is not appropriate that he [Rubiales] has done this, but as for the reaction, it does not seem to me, that the situation is that bad."
Her 14-year-old son Alexander Herranz agrees. He thinks Rubiales should face some form of sanction but shouldn't have to resign.
Their friend Vali Popa added: "I think it was exaggerated. It was just a moment of happiness and to celebrate it was nothing more than that."
Another way to look at his request- putting to one side his crotch grab to show his masculinity- for a 'peck' that's one the cheek- or both as in Europe not hold her head so she couldn't turn sideways, then on the lips....
it was like watching @HAYSIE and @MISTY4ME meeting up at the SPT's
Sack him, move on
We asked people in Madrid what they thought of World Cup kiss row - their response was 'eye-opening'
The fallout from that kiss at the World Cup winning ceremony has overshadowed Spain's win and sparked a national debate.
The story has been hugely inflamed by the subsequent behaviour of Luis Rubiales, the man who planted the unwanted kiss and the recently suspended boss of Spanish football.
He's declared himself the victim of a witch hunt and Spain's FA threatened the player he kissed, Jenni Hermoso, with legal action for declaring the act non-consensual.
In Madrid, many people we spoke to think Mr Rubiales does not deserve the backlash he's received.
In Plaza de Santa Ana, a busy square in the city centre where locals and visitors enjoy early evening drinks, a group of young women did not want to be identified and were reluctant to speak up on the story.
However they said the response to Mr Rubiales and the kiss has been overblown.
We approached another larger group of men and women and we found a similar opinion among them.
Maria Gomez was among the group. She told me: "It is not appropriate that he [Rubiales] has done this, but as for the reaction, it does not seem to me, that the situation is that bad."
Her 14-year-old son Alexander Herranz agrees. He thinks Rubiales should face some form of sanction but shouldn't have to resign.
Their friend Vali Popa added: "I think it was exaggerated. It was just a moment of happiness and to celebrate it was nothing more than that."
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This happened immediately after they won the World Cup.
They all must have been on a massive high.
I accept that he shouldnt have done it.
Although I would forgive him for doing it in the heat of the moment.
This should have been resolved by the two people involved.
I also think that bad feeling surrounding the incident was put in motion 12 months ago.
At some point in the future we will see female coaches of mens teams.
I simply cant imagine that there would the same reaction to a female coach giving a male player a peck on the lips.
Well done for winning the World Cup, you are fired.
The fallout from that kiss at the World Cup winning ceremony has overshadowed Spain's win and sparked a national debate.
The story has been hugely inflamed by the subsequent behaviour of Luis Rubiales, the man who planted the unwanted kiss and the recently suspended boss of Spanish football.
He's declared himself the victim of a witch hunt and Spain's FA threatened the player he kissed, Jenni Hermoso, with legal action for declaring the act non-consensual.
In Madrid, many people we spoke to think Mr Rubiales does not deserve the backlash he's received.
In Plaza de Santa Ana, a busy square in the city centre where locals and visitors enjoy early evening drinks, a group of young women did not want to be identified and were reluctant to speak up on the story.
However they said the response to Mr Rubiales and the kiss has been overblown.
We approached another larger group of men and women and we found a similar opinion among them.
Maria Gomez was among the group. She told me: "It is not appropriate that he [Rubiales] has done this, but as for the reaction, it does not seem to me, that the situation is that bad."
Her 14-year-old son Alexander Herranz agrees. He thinks Rubiales should face some form of sanction but shouldn't have to resign.
Their friend Vali Popa added: "I think it was exaggerated. It was just a moment of happiness and to celebrate it was nothing more than that."
https://uk.yahoo.com/news/asked-people-madrid-thought-world-203000229.html
https://uk.yahoo.com/news/rubiales-mother-goes-hunger-strike-102418102.html
https://uk.yahoo.com/news/family-man-luis-rubiales-defended-180515856.html
https://uk.yahoo.com/news/kissgate-video-shows-jenni-hermoso-164500437.html