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  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,819
    Tikay10 said:


    @HAYSIE


    I almost never watch anything on Ch 5 as their production standards & quality are usually so poor.

    Is this "Incident Room" thing any good?

    Louis Theroux vs Ashley Walters Series 2 Episode 6

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v71_YXGsTtg

    Ashley Walters discusses previous gang life | Louis Theroux Interviews - BBC

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MEnZb6xsg7Q
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,819
    BBC yesterday.
    Wild Scandinavia: Life on the Edge - Preview


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FMfovFlv-Os
  • Tikay10Tikay10 Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 169,530

    I watched "Wild Scandinavia" &, like all the "Wild" series, it was excellent.
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,819
    Tikay10 said:


    I watched "Wild Scandinavia" &, like all the "Wild" series, it was excellent.

    I have been watching a few more documentaries of late, I will give it a go.
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,819
    HAYSIE said:

    HAYSIE said:

    Tikay10 said:


    Thanks, useful to know.

    New Series Of 24hrs In Police Custody Ch4 9pm Sunday.
    I watched this weeks episode.
    To blame the victims would clearly be wrong, but I do think that some people live very risky lifestyles.
    This weeks episode was good, a two parter.
    Good programme, sad story.
    Long sentences.
  • Tikay10Tikay10 Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 169,530
    HAYSIE said:

    HAYSIE said:

    HAYSIE said:

    Tikay10 said:


    Thanks, useful to know.

    New Series Of 24hrs In Police Custody Ch4 9pm Sunday.
    I watched this weeks episode.
    To blame the victims would clearly be wrong, but I do think that some people live very risky lifestyles.
    This weeks episode was good, a two parter.
    Good programme, sad story.
    Long sentences.

    @HAYSIE


    I loved that they got 38 & 34 years in prison. Proper sentences, them & quite right too.

    And the "big man" who was seen on CCTV happily stabbing people in the back - literally, multiple stabs in the back - was not so big when he could not stop trembling, shaking & crying in the Police interview, once he realised the game was up.

    My only criticism of the Show - I'm hard to please sometimes - was that it did not need to be2-parter, it could easily have fitted into a single episode.

    I do enjoy most episodes of 24 Hours in Police Custody though. I'm a big fan of non-fiction.

  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,819
    Tikay10 said:

    HAYSIE said:

    HAYSIE said:

    HAYSIE said:

    Tikay10 said:


    Thanks, useful to know.

    New Series Of 24hrs In Police Custody Ch4 9pm Sunday.
    I watched this weeks episode.
    To blame the victims would clearly be wrong, but I do think that some people live very risky lifestyles.
    This weeks episode was good, a two parter.
    Good programme, sad story.
    Long sentences.

    @HAYSIE


    I loved that they got 38 & 34 years in prison. Proper sentences, them & quite right too.

    And the "big man" who was seen on CCTV happily stabbing people in the back - literally, multiple stabs in the back - was not so big when he could not stop trembling, shaking & crying in the Police interview, once he realised the game was up.

    My only criticism of the Show - I'm hard to please sometimes - was that it did not need to be2-parter, it could easily have fitted into a single episode.

    I do enjoy most episodes of 24 Hours in Police Custody though. I'm a big fan of non-fiction.

    The other thing about their sentences, was that they apparently have to serve them in full, before being allowed to apply for parole.
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,819
    24 Hours in Police Custody RETURNS | Official Trailer | Channel 4

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_xBV1PcF_RI
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,819
    Miners' Strike 1984: The Battle for Britain
    Series begins on Channel 4 at 9pm, Thursday 25th January. All episodes will then be available on channel4.com



    https://www.swanfilms.tv/production-detail/miners-strike-1984-the-battle-for-britain
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,819
    Tikay10 said:

    HAYSIE said:

    HAYSIE said:

    HAYSIE said:

    Tikay10 said:


    Thanks, useful to know.

    New Series Of 24hrs In Police Custody Ch4 9pm Sunday.
    I watched this weeks episode.
    To blame the victims would clearly be wrong, but I do think that some people live very risky lifestyles.
    This weeks episode was good, a two parter.
    Good programme, sad story.
    Long sentences.

    @HAYSIE


    I loved that they got 38 & 34 years in prison. Proper sentences, them & quite right too.

    And the "big man" who was seen on CCTV happily stabbing people in the back - literally, multiple stabs in the back - was not so big when he could not stop trembling, shaking & crying in the Police interview, once he realised the game was up.

    My only criticism of the Show - I'm hard to please sometimes - was that it did not need to be2-parter, it could easily have fitted into a single episode.

    I do enjoy most episodes of 24 Hours in Police Custody though. I'm a big fan of non-fiction.

    This weeks episode, the first in the new series, was a repeat.
  • Tikay10Tikay10 Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 169,530
    HAYSIE said:

    Tikay10 said:

    HAYSIE said:

    HAYSIE said:

    HAYSIE said:

    Tikay10 said:


    Thanks, useful to know.

    New Series Of 24hrs In Police Custody Ch4 9pm Sunday.
    I watched this weeks episode.
    To blame the victims would clearly be wrong, but I do think that some people live very risky lifestyles.
    This weeks episode was good, a two parter.
    Good programme, sad story.
    Long sentences.

    @HAYSIE


    I loved that they got 38 & 34 years in prison. Proper sentences, them & quite right too.

    And the "big man" who was seen on CCTV happily stabbing people in the back - literally, multiple stabs in the back - was not so big when he could not stop trembling, shaking & crying in the Police interview, once he realised the game was up.

    My only criticism of the Show - I'm hard to please sometimes - was that it did not need to be2-parter, it could easily have fitted into a single episode.

    I do enjoy most episodes of 24 Hours in Police Custody though. I'm a big fan of non-fiction.

    This weeks episode, the first in the new series, was a repeat.
    @HAYSIE


    Yes, the bent copper/blackmail episode.

    It was a great story, but yes, a repeat, which was not advertised as such. Not a disaster I suppose, but it annoys me when they don't flag it up mas a Repeat.

  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,819
    Tikay10 said:

    HAYSIE said:

    Tikay10 said:

    HAYSIE said:

    HAYSIE said:

    HAYSIE said:

    Tikay10 said:


    Thanks, useful to know.

    New Series Of 24hrs In Police Custody Ch4 9pm Sunday.
    I watched this weeks episode.
    To blame the victims would clearly be wrong, but I do think that some people live very risky lifestyles.
    This weeks episode was good, a two parter.
    Good programme, sad story.
    Long sentences.

    @HAYSIE


    I loved that they got 38 & 34 years in prison. Proper sentences, them & quite right too.

    And the "big man" who was seen on CCTV happily stabbing people in the back - literally, multiple stabs in the back - was not so big when he could not stop trembling, shaking & crying in the Police interview, once he realised the game was up.

    My only criticism of the Show - I'm hard to please sometimes - was that it did not need to be2-parter, it could easily have fitted into a single episode.

    I do enjoy most episodes of 24 Hours in Police Custody though. I'm a big fan of non-fiction.

    This weeks episode, the first in the new series, was a repeat.
    @HAYSIE


    Yes, the bent copper/blackmail episode.

    It was a great story, but yes, a repeat, which was not advertised as such. Not a disaster I suppose, but it annoys me when they don't flag it up mas a Repeat.

    He was mad.
    Apparently a good copper.
    Although his excuse for doing it was unbelievable.
    Silly man.
  • Tikay10Tikay10 Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 169,530

    @HAYSIE


    Lost his job for life, lost his Pension (and a Police pension must be huge), & went to prison, all for £1,000.

    I mean, we've all done daft things in our life - well I certainly have - but thats another level daft.
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,819
    Tikay10 said:


    @HAYSIE


    Lost his job for life, lost his Pension (and a Police pension must be huge), & went to prison, all for £1,000.

    I mean, we've all done daft things in our life - well I certainly have - but thats another level daft.

    For sure.
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,819
    Tikay10 said:


    @HAYSIE


    Lost his job for life, lost his Pension (and a Police pension must be huge), & went to prison, all for £1,000.

    I mean, we've all done daft things in our life - well I certainly have - but thats another level daft.

    For sure.
    Tikay10 said:

    HAYSIE said:

    Tikay10 said:

    HAYSIE said:

    HAYSIE said:

    HAYSIE said:

    Tikay10 said:


    Thanks, useful to know.

    New Series Of 24hrs In Police Custody Ch4 9pm Sunday.
    I watched this weeks episode.
    To blame the victims would clearly be wrong, but I do think that some people live very risky lifestyles.
    This weeks episode was good, a two parter.
    Good programme, sad story.
    Long sentences.

    @HAYSIE


    I loved that they got 38 & 34 years in prison. Proper sentences, them & quite right too.

    And the "big man" who was seen on CCTV happily stabbing people in the back - literally, multiple stabs in the back - was not so big when he could not stop trembling, shaking & crying in the Police interview, once he realised the game was up.

    My only criticism of the Show - I'm hard to please sometimes - was that it did not need to be2-parter, it could easily have fitted into a single episode.

    I do enjoy most episodes of 24 Hours in Police Custody though. I'm a big fan of non-fiction.

    This weeks episode, the first in the new series, was a repeat.
    @HAYSIE


    Yes, the bent copper/blackmail episode.

    It was a great story, but yes, a repeat, which was not advertised as such. Not a disaster I suppose, but it annoys me when they don't flag it up mas a Repeat.

    Strangely that was series 6 episode 1.
    Tomorrows episode is billed as series 7 episode 2.
  • EssexphilEssexphil Member Posts: 8,767
    edited January 21
    Tikay10 said:


    @HAYSIE


    Lost his job for life, lost his Pension (and a Police pension must be huge), & went to prison, all for £1,000.

    I mean, we've all done daft things in our life - well I certainly have - but thats another level daft.

    It is.

    There is more than 1 scheme. There is the 1987, 2006 and 2015 schemes.

    I'm no Actuary or Pension Administrator. But let's use some typical, simplified, figures to show this.

    Suppose a Policeman has been employed for 20 years. Suppose also that he has earned £40,000 a year (every year-I know that is not going to be true, but bear with me), and that he has paid into the Pension every year. Suppose also he is 55, and he has not made any Additional Voluntary Contributions.

    He will have paid in between 10-15% of his salary every year. For 20 years. Suppose we say 10%, to take account of the changes in Salary and Averaging since 2015. So-he has paid in £80,000. And his Pension pot is probably valued at (very roughly) £400,000. Because it is a Final Salary, 1/45ths scheme. 1 of the major reasons policemen join.

    Show me another job where, if you are dismissed, you can be fined £400,000 as well.
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,819
    Essexphil said:

    Tikay10 said:


    @HAYSIE


    Lost his job for life, lost his Pension (and a Police pension must be huge), & went to prison, all for £1,000.

    I mean, we've all done daft things in our life - well I certainly have - but thats another level daft.

    It is.

    There is more than 1 scheme. There is the 1987, 2006 and 2015 schemes.

    I'm no Actuary or Pension Administrator. But let's use some typical, simplified, figures to show this.

    Suppose a Policeman has been employed for 20 years. Suppose also that he has earned £40,000 a year (every year-I know that is not going to be true, but bear with me), and that he has paid into the Pension every year. Suppose also he is 55, and he has not made any Additional Voluntary Contributions.

    He will have paid in between 10-15% of his salary every year. For 20 years. Suppose we say 10%, to take account of the changes in Salary and Averaging since 2015. So-he has paid in £80,000. And his Pension pot is probably valued at (very roughly) £400,000. Because it is a Final Salary, 1/45ths scheme. 1 of the major reasons policemen join.

    Show me another job where, if you are dismissed, you can be fined £400,000 as well.
    Very harsh.
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,819
    Tikay10 said:


    @HAYSIE


    Lost his job for life, lost his Pension (and a Police pension must be huge), & went to prison, all for £1,000.

    I mean, we've all done daft things in our life - well I certainly have - but thats another level daft.

    Another repeat this week.
  • Tikay10Tikay10 Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 169,530
    HAYSIE said:

    Tikay10 said:


    @HAYSIE


    Lost his job for life, lost his Pension (and a Police pension must be huge), & went to prison, all for £1,000.

    I mean, we've all done daft things in our life - well I certainly have - but thats another level daft.

    Another repeat this week.

    Yup, a good one, but a repeat. It quite annoyed me that they got what I considered such lenient sentences. The "leader" especially was a complete wrong 'un & while ever he's at large in society, he'll cause problems.

  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,819
    Tikay10 said:

    HAYSIE said:

    Tikay10 said:


    @HAYSIE


    Lost his job for life, lost his Pension (and a Police pension must be huge), & went to prison, all for £1,000.

    I mean, we've all done daft things in our life - well I certainly have - but thats another level daft.

    Another repeat this week.

    Yup, a good one, but a repeat. It quite annoyed me that they got what I considered such lenient sentences. The "leader" especially was a complete wrong 'un & while ever he's at large in society, he'll cause problems.

    He will.
    Lots of people argue that sentencing seems so inconsistent.
    I think that if his missus could have been arrested on more serious charges, she would have spilled.
    She didnt seem like a woman that would have been at all comfortable doing a bit of porridge.
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