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Alex Batty’s mother ‘thought Covid was a state conspiracy’

HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,827
edited December 2023 in The Rail
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  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,827
    British boy Alex Batty found in France after 2017 disappearance 'to return to UK after call with grandma'



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  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,827
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,827
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,827
    Alex Batty’s mother ‘thought Covid was a state conspiracy’


    https://uk.yahoo.com/news/alex-batty-mother-conspiracy-theorist-133139781.html
  • Tikay10Tikay10 Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 169,576
    edited December 2023
    Hard to believe that people this stupid really exist, as opposed to just being online trolls.


    “Rose is a conspiracy theorist. She believed that Covid-19 was not real, that it was created by the state to control the people.”
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,827
    Tikay10 said:

    Hard to believe that people this stupid really exist, as opposed to just being online trolls.


    “Rose is a conspiracy theorist. She believed that Covid-19 was not real, that it was created by the state to control the people.”

    One of them became President of the USA.
  • PaintedOnePaintedOne Member Posts: 236
    event 201 18th october 2019
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,827

    event 201 18th october 2019

    Event 201 didn’t predict the Covid-19 pandemic

    https://fullfact.org/health/event-201-coronavirus-pandemic/
  • Tikay10Tikay10 Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 169,576
    edited December 2023
    oioi, here we go.

    "Event 201 Event 201 was run by the Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security in partnership with the World Economic Forum and the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation."


    First sign of a conspiracy theorist is if they try to blame everything on a narrow list of usual suspects.

    The list will ALWAYS include some or all of these;


    Bill &/or Melinda Gates.

    WHO

    WEF

    New World Order

    Hillary Clinton

    Macron

    BlackRock

    Barack & Michelle Obama



    And the list NEVER includes Orange Man.
  • mumsiemumsie Member Posts: 7,997


    Some Conspiracy Theorists find it difficult to understand real world events.
    They copy and paste theories links from obscure sources to prove points they cannot comprehend.
    Then go into hiding if asked to clarify anything or are challenged.
  • PaintedOnePaintedOne Member Posts: 236
    its alll just one big coincidence lmao
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,827

    its alll just one big coincidence lmao

    What is?
  • PaintedOnePaintedOne Member Posts: 236
    event 201 , the list of names that people churn out everytime , the fact that the bbc put a documentary out about a disease then it happened , all just a coincidence . the fact that the pcr was used and the inventor died 9 months earlier who was adamant that it wasn't a diagnostic tool , .. and probably a hundred more if i went back and had a look

    anyway this convid stuff is so old hat , havent you got a knew narrative to follow and pick a side , ukraine perhaps , oh no thats a bit old now too lmao , israel maybe lol ,

    please also can you stop using so much carbon otherwise there will be a carbon tax soon ,

    do the right thing

  • PaintedOnePaintedOne Member Posts: 236
    love you guys and gals
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,827

    event 201 , the list of names that people churn out everytime , the fact that the bbc put a documentary out about a disease then it happened , all just a coincidence . the fact that the pcr was used and the inventor died 9 months earlier who was adamant that it wasn't a diagnostic tool , .. and probably a hundred more if i went back and had a look

    anyway this convid stuff is so old hat , havent you got a knew narrative to follow and pick a side , ukraine perhaps , oh no thats a bit old now too lmao , israel maybe lol ,

    please also can you stop using so much carbon otherwise there will be a carbon tax soon ,

    do the right thing


    Event 201 didn’t predict the Covid-19 pandemic

    “Event 201” was an exercise organised in October 2019 to simulate what might happen if there was a severe pandemic. We’ve been asked by readers to look into whether it really happened , why it wasn’t covered much in the media, and whether it’s simply a coincidence that it took part just months before the Covid-19 pandemic started.

    The event was real but the fact it took place just before the pandemic started doesn’t mean the organisers had any secret knowledge, which has been suggested by some.

    The organisers said they ran the exercise because the world has seen a “growing number of epidemic events.” Previous similar exercises run by the same organisations and others have not been followed by similar outbreaks.

    The specifics of the exercise should not be taken as predictions for the Covid-19 pandemic.

    What was the event?

    Event 201 was run by the Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security in partnership with the World Economic Forum and the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation.

    It invited people from business, government and public health to simulate coordinating a policy response to a theoretical pandemic.

    The simulation was based on a coronavirus, but that doesn’t mean the organisers knew about the one that causes Covid-19. The first known cases of Covid-19 weren’t publicly identified until December 2019, although media reports of unpublished data suggest that some early cases may have been infected in November that year.

    Coronaviruses are a broad category of viruses which cause a number of different respiratory illnesses. One is the common cold, but the category also includes SARS (the severe acute respiratory syndrome, of which there were outbreaks in 2002 and 2004), and MERS (Middle East respiratory syndrome) in addition to Covid-19.

    The organisers said: “The players’ responses to the scenario illuminated the need for cooperation among industry, national governments, key international institutions, and civil society, to avoid the catastrophic consequences that could arise from a large-scale pandemic.”

    At the time, Event 201 was not covered widely by the media, but it was covered. In the UK it appears the Telegraph was the only major outlet to report on it.

    It doesn’t tell us much about the Covid-19 outbreak
    Event 201 took place just a few months before the initial Covid-19 outbreak in Wuhan. This has led some to say that Event 201 “predicted” the current pandemic.

    However, the Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security has said: “the Center for Health Security and partners did not make a prediction during our tabletop exercise.

    “For the scenario, we modeled a fictional coronavirus pandemic, but we explicitly stated that it was not a prediction.”

    The participants in Event 201 estimated the fictional pandemic would kill 65 million people. Johns Hopkins added that this did not mean that it predicted that the Covid-19 outbreak would result in that many deaths and that the inputs it used were different from what’s being observed with Covid-19.

    Neither coincidence nor conspiracy
    As for the timing of the event, this isn’t just simple coincidence, nor is it a sign that, somehow, the organisers knew about this specific coronavirus before it was reported.

    It’s more that the reason for running these exercises reflects what the scientific community knows about pandemics.

    Johns Hopkins said at the time that “the world has seen a growing number of epidemic events” and “experts agree that it is only a matter of time before one of these epidemics becomes global.”

    As well as Event 201 last year, it also ran a similar exercise called Clade X the year before which simulated the impact of a fictional virus with “flu-like symptoms”.

    As for why the organisers modelled the impacts of a coronavirus as opposed to any other disease, again this isn’t a result of conspiracy or coincidence but expertise. For one, the world has seen recent outbreaks of coronaviruses such as MERS and SARS, so it’s a relevant type of virus to model.

    And because coronaviruses are particularly good at evolving, scientists have previously warned that they are contenders for pandemics.



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  • PaintedOnePaintedOne Member Posts: 236
    fact checks sponsored by johnson and johnson lol
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,827

    fact checks sponsored by johnson and johnson lol

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  • PaintedOnePaintedOne Member Posts: 236
    thats some list lol cheers
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,827

    thats some list lol cheers

    Johnson and Johnson didnt seem to be on the list?
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