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  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,827
  • EssexphilEssexphil Member Posts: 8,771
    This sort of Headline is unfair.

    Medical Science is not fortune telling. It is almost always making tentative diagnoses based on incomplete information.

    Thankfully, various symptoms present in thousands of children almost never result in this sort of result. And it is, sadly, often the case that these sorts of things need to get worse before it becomes discoverable.

    I understand why parents look to blame others in this situation-I suspect I would, too. But sometimes it is no-one's fault.

    Just want to share 1 story from many years ago. Because it sticks in my mind as the only 1 of its type I ever dealt with.

    Mother lost her young son due to undoubted Medical Negligence. The (experienced) Doctor concerned was in his first ever paediatric role, and tragically gave an adult dose to a small child.

    My Client's demands were this:-

    1. An apology; and
    2. An assurance that the Doctor would never again be in a Paediatric role-she was perfectly happy for him to be a Doctor in any other field of medicine

    Sticking point was money. She didn't want any. And, without it, Hospital Trust could not settle.

    We eventually agreed on £1,000 for a Headstone, a donation to a relevant Charity in both Family and Trust name, and £1 for my legal fees.

    I didn't often make a difference. Not really. So I remember the few where I did.
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,827
    Essexphil said:

    This sort of Headline is unfair.

    Medical Science is not fortune telling. It is almost always making tentative diagnoses based on incomplete information.

    Thankfully, various symptoms present in thousands of children almost never result in this sort of result. And it is, sadly, often the case that these sorts of things need to get worse before it becomes discoverable.

    I understand why parents look to blame others in this situation-I suspect I would, too. But sometimes it is no-one's fault.

    Just want to share 1 story from many years ago. Because it sticks in my mind as the only 1 of its type I ever dealt with.

    Mother lost her young son due to undoubted Medical Negligence. The (experienced) Doctor concerned was in his first ever paediatric role, and tragically gave an adult dose to a small child.

    My Client's demands were this:-

    1. An apology; and
    2. An assurance that the Doctor would never again be in a Paediatric role-she was perfectly happy for him to be a Doctor in any other field of medicine

    Sticking point was money. She didn't want any. And, without it, Hospital Trust could not settle.

    We eventually agreed on £1,000 for a Headstone, a donation to a relevant Charity in both Family and Trust name, and £1 for my legal fees.

    I didn't often make a difference. Not really. So I remember the few where I did.

    Very sad story.
  • Tikay10Tikay10 Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 169,576
    Essexphil said:

    This sort of Headline is unfair.

    Medical Science is not fortune telling. It is almost always making tentative diagnoses based on incomplete information.

    Thankfully, various symptoms present in thousands of children almost never result in this sort of result. And it is, sadly, often the case that these sorts of things need to get worse before it becomes discoverable.

    I understand why parents look to blame others in this situation-I suspect I would, too. But sometimes it is no-one's fault.

    Just want to share 1 story from many years ago. Because it sticks in my mind as the only 1 of its type I ever dealt with.

    Mother lost her young son due to undoubted Medical Negligence. The (experienced) Doctor concerned was in his first ever paediatric role, and tragically gave an adult dose to a small child.

    My Client's demands were this:-

    1. An apology; and
    2. An assurance that the Doctor would never again be in a Paediatric role-she was perfectly happy for him to be a Doctor in any other field of medicine

    Sticking point was money. She didn't want any. And, without it, Hospital Trust could not settle.

    We eventually agreed on £1,000 for a Headstone, a donation to a relevant Charity in both Family and Trust name, and £1 for my legal fees.

    I didn't often make a difference. Not really. So I remember the few where I did.


    @Essexphil



    That was a most elegant solution to a very awkward spot.

  • EssexphilEssexphil Member Posts: 8,771
    edited May 7
    The thing that particularly stuck in my mind was that the toughest bit was getting agreement from the Mother. Who was desperate not to be profiting from her child's death.

    I'm not denigrating those who need money for their child's care. Or who want vengeance. Or want money to provide a good memory alongside the bad. Good luck to them.

    But even better luck to that Doctor, that Trust, and, most of all, that Mother.

    On both a lighter and slightly dark note, whenever I read those "chances missed" Headlines, I think back to Medical Advice I once received. I was in my mid-20s. And something went wrong with my heart. Causing it, amongst other things, to go at about 180 beats per minute for 24 hours. Advice I got was this:-

    We have absolutely no idea what caused this. There are 3 possible outcomes. In order of likelihood, they are:-

    1. It goes away, never to return. And we will have no idea why problems started, or why they went away
    2. It gets worse/more frequent, and we find out the cause
    3. You can guess that 1 for yourself. But it is much, much less likely than 2, which is also much, much less likely than 1.

  • goldongoldon Member Posts: 9,051
    Sorry is the hardest word ..... to say and receive, but it's needed to be said.
  • EssexphilEssexphil Member Posts: 8,771
    edited May 7
    goldon said:

    Sorry is the hardest word ..... to say and receive, but it's needed to be said.

    It is one of the first things I would like to see changed in our Legal system.

    There are all sorts of "Without Prejudice" correspondence which may say things in a way that cannot be used in Court. But they only apply where someone is trying to resolve the legal issues by compromise. And, strange though this may sound, saying "sorry" is not part of resolution, and thus can sometimes be used as an admission of liability.

    There desperately needs to be a legally enforceable way of saying sorry in a legally safe way. Because the current system causes significant extra grief for people involved in Medical Accidents, regardless of legal liability.
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,827
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