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  • TheEdge949TheEdge949 Member Posts: 5,686
    It's going to get worse before it ever gets better.
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  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,827
    TheEdge949 said:

    It's going to get worse before it ever gets better.

    How much worse can it get?
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  • DoublemeDoubleme Member Posts: 2,142
    you really think this tory government will ever allow an election if they believe they will lose it?

    there are two possibilities

    1. The bookie odds change and Tories are the favourite then we get an election
    2. they dont before January and then they extend parliament and dont have an election.

    I dont know the exact details of what happens if the bookies have tories as a favourite they call an election and still lose?

    is their a hand over date like in the US or is it instant? I guess if instant the tories are toast in that scenario but that scenario is unlikely, if their is a hand over period they just pass bills preventing it and stay in power anyway.

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  • TheEdge949TheEdge949 Member Posts: 5,686
    Bookies have nothing to do with when an election is called or who wins it. Bookmakers simply react to events and create a market with a built in profit so they win by collecting on losing bets and not giving true value on winning bets.

    Oh and the Government has to call an election after 5 years in power. C'mon sonny read a book.

    You win an election on the Thursday, you're in power on the Friday, pretty much.
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  • DoublemeDoubleme Member Posts: 2,142
    TheEdge949 said:

    Bookies have nothing to do with when an election is called or who wins it. Bookmakers simply react to events and create a market with a built in profit so they win by collecting on losing bets and not giving true value on winning bets.

    Oh and the Government has to call an election after 5 years in power. C'mon sonny read a book.

    You win an election on the Thursday, you're in power on the Friday, pretty much.

    I am aware that the bookies have no authority over when the election is but Rishi Sunuk is an educated man and knows basic math.

    He will know that bookies and pollsters will have done their math for these odds and will not be likely to call an election at a time where the bookies and pollsters are saying his odds are bad.

    The UK constitution basically has parliment as sovereign so hypothetically they could pass legislation to extend the duration of parliment how this would go down in practice if they actually tried this would be pure speculation. In theory though hypothetically they could do this.

    In the US I believe their is a hand over of power period where the new president is sworn in so if for example Trump won the US election as I understand it he wouldn't be president immediately but would officially become president when he is sworn in which is a few months later.

    I was not sure if a similiar process applies to the UK.

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  • TheEdge949TheEdge949 Member Posts: 5,686
    Before an election the PM goes to The Palace and asks permission to dissolve Parliament after the election the winning leader goes to The Palace and the reverse happens. Come on now be honest, who'd love it if The King said "No Fk off"
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  • DoublemeDoubleme Member Posts: 2,142
    TheEdge949 said:

    Before an election the PM goes to The Palace and asks permission to dissolve Parliament after the election the winning leader goes to The Palace and the reverse happens. Come on now be honest, who'd love it if The King said "No Fk off"

    I think our democracy needs change, its not really a democracy I voted tory when it was a choice between tory or Corbyn I said at the time that the tories were awful but a better choice then corbyn I wonder whether I got that wrong now will never know corbyn never looked good.

    Now next election I will vote Starmer I think he is awful but a better choice then sunuk.

    I do not ever recall a period where I voted thinking yes this is a guy I like as a politician. Its always voting between a giant douche or a **** sandwich to quote southpark.

    I never feel like I am voting for someone more voting to stop the other one getting in.
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  • TheEdge949TheEdge949 Member Posts: 5,686
    That's why Proportional representation is the only TRUE democracy. And also why we will never get it.
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  • DoublemeDoubleme Member Posts: 2,142
    TheEdge949 said:

    That's why Proportional representation is the only TRUE democracy. And also why we will never get it.

    i actually agree with you on that but unfortunately I dont see anyone who I would be eager to vote for if we had that I guess it would give them the chance to emerge.
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