Imane Khelif, who failed gender test, wins after just 46 seconds when opponent abandons fight.
The controversial fight between Imane Khelif, the Algerian boxer who failed a sex test at last year’s World Championships, and Italy’s Angela Carini has been abandoned after just 46 seconds after the Italian suffered a suspected broken nose.
This fight had already detonated ferocious controversy, with the International Olympic Committee under mounting pressure to explain how a woman could be allowed into a boxing ring unsure of the sex of the person she was facing.
Khelif was banned from competing in a gold-medal bout in Delhi by the International Boxing Association, who said that the fighter’s “elevated levels of testosterone failed to meet the eligibility criteria”.
And yet she was still permitted by the IOC to fight at these Olympics and the difference in power was clear from the beginning, with the Italian taking a punch to the face and immediately walking to her corner to signal she would not carry on.
Angela Carini was in floods of tears as she stopped to speak in the interview area, having abandoned her bout with Imane Khelif after only 46 seconds. Her voice quavering, she said that she pulled out because she had never been hit so hard. Imane Khelif swept through the mixed zone without saying a word. It is staggering to think how only yesterday, Mark Adams, the International Olympic Committee’s spokesman, had said that everyone should just “dial down” the issue and not instigate a “witchhunt”. To reiterate, Khelif had failed two sex tests by the International Boxing Association. It is, frankly, an absolute scandal.
I must admit that I have not gone into this story in great depth. I usually avoid gender issues, as inadvertantly upsetting a particular side of an argument is all too easy. I listened to report on the news the other night regarding this story. The remarkable thing about this is that Imane Khelif was born a woman. She was born with a vagina. So she was born a woman, and competes as a woman. So why is there any need for any tests. She produces high levels of testosterone, but some women apparently do.
I think it is just wrong, and very unfair to have anyone that was born a man to be competing in womens sport. But surely that is a very straightforward test.
How on earth could we debating that someone who was born a woman, should not be allowed to compete as a woman. Whats next, very tall people disqualified from the high jump, to make it fairer for shorter people?
100% agree. This is a genuine woman in every sense of the word, she was born a woman & remains so. Her "sin" was to fail a test which showed she had abnormal levels of testosterone. Some women just do. The Media have been a disgrace with this story, very unfairly maligning her imo. Plus of course the usual suspects who criticise all things LGBTQ are all over it, saying how terrible it is, when in fact there's no case to answer - she's a straight female, & always has been.
The actual facts werent clearly evident when the story broke. Hence the comments people have made. I felt I was led to believe that she was born a man, and that was where the unfairness lay. Just above that story I posted another about a Team GB member, who has received medals in both men, and womens events. That is just wrong. The story seems to have crept under the radar, and nobody seems to have anything to say about it.
From what I can gather it's the presence of the Y chromosome in the IBA tests that are the concerns. Females have the XX chromosome and Males the XY, therefore a female displaying the XY chromosome fails to meet the IBA's criteria to compete against XX chromosome competitors due to the possible advantage/disadvantage to each competitor.
Imane Khelif, who failed gender test, wins after just 46 seconds when opponent abandons fight.
The controversial fight between Imane Khelif, the Algerian boxer who failed a sex test at last year’s World Championships, and Italy’s Angela Carini has been abandoned after just 46 seconds after the Italian suffered a suspected broken nose.
This fight had already detonated ferocious controversy, with the International Olympic Committee under mounting pressure to explain how a woman could be allowed into a boxing ring unsure of the sex of the person she was facing.
Khelif was banned from competing in a gold-medal bout in Delhi by the International Boxing Association, who said that the fighter’s “elevated levels of testosterone failed to meet the eligibility criteria”.
And yet she was still permitted by the IOC to fight at these Olympics and the difference in power was clear from the beginning, with the Italian taking a punch to the face and immediately walking to her corner to signal she would not carry on.
Angela Carini was in floods of tears as she stopped to speak in the interview area, having abandoned her bout with Imane Khelif after only 46 seconds. Her voice quavering, she said that she pulled out because she had never been hit so hard. Imane Khelif swept through the mixed zone without saying a word. It is staggering to think how only yesterday, Mark Adams, the International Olympic Committee’s spokesman, had said that everyone should just “dial down” the issue and not instigate a “witchhunt”. To reiterate, Khelif had failed two sex tests by the International Boxing Association. It is, frankly, an absolute scandal.
I must admit that I have not gone into this story in great depth. I usually avoid gender issues, as inadvertantly upsetting a particular side of an argument is all too easy. I listened to report on the news the other night regarding this story. The remarkable thing about this is that Imane Khelif was born a woman. She was born with a vagina. So she was born a woman, and competes as a woman. So why is there any need for any tests. She produces high levels of testosterone, but some women apparently do.
I think it is just wrong, and very unfair to have anyone that was born a man to be competing in womens sport. But surely that is a very straightforward test.
How on earth could we debating that someone who was born a woman, should not be allowed to compete as a woman. Whats next, very tall people disqualified from the high jump, to make it fairer for shorter people?
100% agree. This is a genuine woman in every sense of the word, she was born a woman & remains so. Her "sin" was to fail a test which showed she had abnormal levels of testosterone. Some women just do. The Media have been a disgrace with this story, very unfairly maligning her imo. Plus of course the usual suspects who criticise all things LGBTQ are all over it, saying how terrible it is, when in fact there's no case to answer - she's a straight female, & always has been.
The actual facts werent clearly evident when the story broke. Hence the comments people have made. I felt I was led to believe that she was born a man, and that was where the unfairness lay. Just above that story I posted another about a Team GB member, who has received medals in both men, and womens events. That is just wrong. The story seems to have crept under the radar, and nobody seems to have anything to say about it.
From what I can gather it's the presence of the Y chromosome in the IBA tests that are the concerns. Females have the XX chromosome and Males the XY, therefore a female displaying the XY chromosome fails to meet the IBA's criteria to compete against XX chromosome competitors due to the possible advantage/disadvantage to each competitor.
There is apparently a lot of secrecy over the tests, and exactly what they entail. In my book, someone that is born a woman, with a vagina, ia a woman, and someone who is born with a **** is a man.
In my view, any test that is designed to prove whether someone is a woman or not, that is able to prove that a woman is not a woman, it is the test that is wrong, rather than the woman.
I respect that people have the right to change this these days, but there is surely no place in womens sport for someone that was born a man.
Imane Khelif, who failed gender test, wins after just 46 seconds when opponent abandons fight.
The controversial fight between Imane Khelif, the Algerian boxer who failed a sex test at last year’s World Championships, and Italy’s Angela Carini has been abandoned after just 46 seconds after the Italian suffered a suspected broken nose.
This fight had already detonated ferocious controversy, with the International Olympic Committee under mounting pressure to explain how a woman could be allowed into a boxing ring unsure of the sex of the person she was facing.
Khelif was banned from competing in a gold-medal bout in Delhi by the International Boxing Association, who said that the fighter’s “elevated levels of testosterone failed to meet the eligibility criteria”.
And yet she was still permitted by the IOC to fight at these Olympics and the difference in power was clear from the beginning, with the Italian taking a punch to the face and immediately walking to her corner to signal she would not carry on.
Angela Carini was in floods of tears as she stopped to speak in the interview area, having abandoned her bout with Imane Khelif after only 46 seconds. Her voice quavering, she said that she pulled out because she had never been hit so hard. Imane Khelif swept through the mixed zone without saying a word. It is staggering to think how only yesterday, Mark Adams, the International Olympic Committee’s spokesman, had said that everyone should just “dial down” the issue and not instigate a “witchhunt”. To reiterate, Khelif had failed two sex tests by the International Boxing Association. It is, frankly, an absolute scandal.
I must admit that I have not gone into this story in great depth. I usually avoid gender issues, as inadvertantly upsetting a particular side of an argument is all too easy. I listened to report on the news the other night regarding this story. The remarkable thing about this is that Imane Khelif was born a woman. She was born with a vagina. So she was born a woman, and competes as a woman. So why is there any need for any tests. She produces high levels of testosterone, but some women apparently do.
I think it is just wrong, and very unfair to have anyone that was born a man to be competing in womens sport. But surely that is a very straightforward test.
How on earth could we debating that someone who was born a woman, should not be allowed to compete as a woman. Whats next, very tall people disqualified from the high jump, to make it fairer for shorter people?
100% agree. This is a genuine woman in every sense of the word, she was born a woman & remains so. Her "sin" was to fail a test which showed she had abnormal levels of testosterone. Some women just do. The Media have been a disgrace with this story, very unfairly maligning her imo. Plus of course the usual suspects who criticise all things LGBTQ are all over it, saying how terrible it is, when in fact there's no case to answer - she's a straight female, & always has been.
The actual facts werent clearly evident when the story broke. Hence the comments people have made. I felt I was led to believe that she was born a man, and that was where the unfairness lay. Just above that story I posted another about a Team GB member, who has received medals in both men, and womens events. That is just wrong. The story seems to have crept under the radar, and nobody seems to have anything to say about it.
From what I can gather it's the presence of the Y chromosome in the IBA tests that are the concerns. Females have the XX chromosome and Males the XY, therefore a female displaying the XY chromosome fails to meet the IBA's criteria to compete against XX chromosome competitors due to the possible advantage/disadvantage to each competitor.
Bearing in mind that she was born a woman with a vagina. What do you think the test proved? There are 2 choices. So did it prove she was a man with a vagina?
Imane Khelif, who failed gender test, wins after just 46 seconds when opponent abandons fight.
The controversial fight between Imane Khelif, the Algerian boxer who failed a sex test at last year’s World Championships, and Italy’s Angela Carini has been abandoned after just 46 seconds after the Italian suffered a suspected broken nose.
This fight had already detonated ferocious controversy, with the International Olympic Committee under mounting pressure to explain how a woman could be allowed into a boxing ring unsure of the sex of the person she was facing.
Khelif was banned from competing in a gold-medal bout in Delhi by the International Boxing Association, who said that the fighter’s “elevated levels of testosterone failed to meet the eligibility criteria”.
And yet she was still permitted by the IOC to fight at these Olympics and the difference in power was clear from the beginning, with the Italian taking a punch to the face and immediately walking to her corner to signal she would not carry on.
Angela Carini was in floods of tears as she stopped to speak in the interview area, having abandoned her bout with Imane Khelif after only 46 seconds. Her voice quavering, she said that she pulled out because she had never been hit so hard. Imane Khelif swept through the mixed zone without saying a word. It is staggering to think how only yesterday, Mark Adams, the International Olympic Committee’s spokesman, had said that everyone should just “dial down” the issue and not instigate a “witchhunt”. To reiterate, Khelif had failed two sex tests by the International Boxing Association. It is, frankly, an absolute scandal.
I must admit that I have not gone into this story in great depth. I usually avoid gender issues, as inadvertantly upsetting a particular side of an argument is all too easy. I listened to report on the news the other night regarding this story. The remarkable thing about this is that Imane Khelif was born a woman. She was born with a vagina. So she was born a woman, and competes as a woman. So why is there any need for any tests. She produces high levels of testosterone, but some women apparently do.
I think it is just wrong, and very unfair to have anyone that was born a man to be competing in womens sport. But surely that is a very straightforward test.
How on earth could we debating that someone who was born a woman, should not be allowed to compete as a woman. Whats next, very tall people disqualified from the high jump, to make it fairer for shorter people?
100% agree. This is a genuine woman in every sense of the word, she was born a woman & remains so. Her "sin" was to fail a test which showed she had abnormal levels of testosterone. Some women just do. The Media have been a disgrace with this story, very unfairly maligning her imo. Plus of course the usual suspects who criticise all things LGBTQ are all over it, saying how terrible it is, when in fact there's no case to answer - she's a straight female, & always has been.
The actual facts werent clearly evident when the story broke. Hence the comments people have made. I felt I was led to believe that she was born a man, and that was where the unfairness lay. Just above that story I posted another about a Team GB member, who has received medals in both men, and womens events. That is just wrong. The story seems to have crept under the radar, and nobody seems to have anything to say about it.
From what I can gather it's the presence of the Y chromosome in the IBA tests that are the concerns. Females have the XX chromosome and Males the XY, therefore a female displaying the XY chromosome fails to meet the IBA's criteria to compete against XX chromosome competitors due to the possible advantage/disadvantage to each competitor.
Imane Khelif, who failed gender test, wins after just 46 seconds when opponent abandons fight.
The controversial fight between Imane Khelif, the Algerian boxer who failed a sex test at last year’s World Championships, and Italy’s Angela Carini has been abandoned after just 46 seconds after the Italian suffered a suspected broken nose.
This fight had already detonated ferocious controversy, with the International Olympic Committee under mounting pressure to explain how a woman could be allowed into a boxing ring unsure of the sex of the person she was facing.
Khelif was banned from competing in a gold-medal bout in Delhi by the International Boxing Association, who said that the fighter’s “elevated levels of testosterone failed to meet the eligibility criteria”.
And yet she was still permitted by the IOC to fight at these Olympics and the difference in power was clear from the beginning, with the Italian taking a punch to the face and immediately walking to her corner to signal she would not carry on.
Angela Carini was in floods of tears as she stopped to speak in the interview area, having abandoned her bout with Imane Khelif after only 46 seconds. Her voice quavering, she said that she pulled out because she had never been hit so hard. Imane Khelif swept through the mixed zone without saying a word. It is staggering to think how only yesterday, Mark Adams, the International Olympic Committee’s spokesman, had said that everyone should just “dial down” the issue and not instigate a “witchhunt”. To reiterate, Khelif had failed two sex tests by the International Boxing Association. It is, frankly, an absolute scandal.
I must admit that I have not gone into this story in great depth. I usually avoid gender issues, as inadvertantly upsetting a particular side of an argument is all too easy. I listened to report on the news the other night regarding this story. The remarkable thing about this is that Imane Khelif was born a woman. She was born with a vagina. So she was born a woman, and competes as a woman. So why is there any need for any tests. She produces high levels of testosterone, but some women apparently do.
I think it is just wrong, and very unfair to have anyone that was born a man to be competing in womens sport. But surely that is a very straightforward test.
How on earth could we debating that someone who was born a woman, should not be allowed to compete as a woman. Whats next, very tall people disqualified from the high jump, to make it fairer for shorter people?
100% agree. This is a genuine woman in every sense of the word, she was born a woman & remains so. Her "sin" was to fail a test which showed she had abnormal levels of testosterone. Some women just do. The Media have been a disgrace with this story, very unfairly maligning her imo. Plus of course the usual suspects who criticise all things LGBTQ are all over it, saying how terrible it is, when in fact there's no case to answer - she's a straight female, & always has been.
The actual facts werent clearly evident when the story broke. Hence the comments people have made. I felt I was led to believe that she was born a man, and that was where the unfairness lay. Just above that story I posted another about a Team GB member, who has received medals in both men, and womens events. That is just wrong. The story seems to have crept under the radar, and nobody seems to have anything to say about it.
From what I can gather it's the presence of the Y chromosome in the IBA tests that are the concerns. Females have the XX chromosome and Males the XY, therefore a female displaying the XY chromosome fails to meet the IBA's criteria to compete against XX chromosome competitors due to the possible advantage/disadvantage to each competitor.
Did Imane Khelif fail gender eligibility test? A look at the Algerian boxer's path to Paris Olympics
Imane Khelif, who failed gender test, wins after just 46 seconds when opponent abandons fight.
The controversial fight between Imane Khelif, the Algerian boxer who failed a sex test at last year’s World Championships, and Italy’s Angela Carini has been abandoned after just 46 seconds after the Italian suffered a suspected broken nose.
This fight had already detonated ferocious controversy, with the International Olympic Committee under mounting pressure to explain how a woman could be allowed into a boxing ring unsure of the sex of the person she was facing.
Khelif was banned from competing in a gold-medal bout in Delhi by the International Boxing Association, who said that the fighter’s “elevated levels of testosterone failed to meet the eligibility criteria”.
And yet she was still permitted by the IOC to fight at these Olympics and the difference in power was clear from the beginning, with the Italian taking a punch to the face and immediately walking to her corner to signal she would not carry on.
Angela Carini was in floods of tears as she stopped to speak in the interview area, having abandoned her bout with Imane Khelif after only 46 seconds. Her voice quavering, she said that she pulled out because she had never been hit so hard. Imane Khelif swept through the mixed zone without saying a word. It is staggering to think how only yesterday, Mark Adams, the International Olympic Committee’s spokesman, had said that everyone should just “dial down” the issue and not instigate a “witchhunt”. To reiterate, Khelif had failed two sex tests by the International Boxing Association. It is, frankly, an absolute scandal.
I must admit that I have not gone into this story in great depth. I usually avoid gender issues, as inadvertantly upsetting a particular side of an argument is all too easy. I listened to report on the news the other night regarding this story. The remarkable thing about this is that Imane Khelif was born a woman. She was born with a vagina. So she was born a woman, and competes as a woman. So why is there any need for any tests. She produces high levels of testosterone, but some women apparently do.
I think it is just wrong, and very unfair to have anyone that was born a man to be competing in womens sport. But surely that is a very straightforward test.
How on earth could we debating that someone who was born a woman, should not be allowed to compete as a woman. Whats next, very tall people disqualified from the high jump, to make it fairer for shorter people?
100% agree. This is a genuine woman in every sense of the word, she was born a woman & remains so. Her "sin" was to fail a test which showed she had abnormal levels of testosterone. Some women just do. The Media have been a disgrace with this story, very unfairly maligning her imo. Plus of course the usual suspects who criticise all things LGBTQ are all over it, saying how terrible it is, when in fact there's no case to answer - she's a straight female, & always has been.
The actual facts werent clearly evident when the story broke. Hence the comments people have made. I felt I was led to believe that she was born a man, and that was where the unfairness lay. Just above that story I posted another about a Team GB member, who has received medals in both men, and womens events. That is just wrong. The story seems to have crept under the radar, and nobody seems to have anything to say about it.
From what I can gather it's the presence of the Y chromosome in the IBA tests that are the concerns. Females have the XX chromosome and Males the XY, therefore a female displaying the XY chromosome fails to meet the IBA's criteria to compete against XX chromosome competitors due to the possible advantage/disadvantage to each competitor.
Imane Khelif, who failed gender test, wins after just 46 seconds when opponent abandons fight.
The controversial fight between Imane Khelif, the Algerian boxer who failed a sex test at last year’s World Championships, and Italy’s Angela Carini has been abandoned after just 46 seconds after the Italian suffered a suspected broken nose.
This fight had already detonated ferocious controversy, with the International Olympic Committee under mounting pressure to explain how a woman could be allowed into a boxing ring unsure of the sex of the person she was facing.
Khelif was banned from competing in a gold-medal bout in Delhi by the International Boxing Association, who said that the fighter’s “elevated levels of testosterone failed to meet the eligibility criteria”.
And yet she was still permitted by the IOC to fight at these Olympics and the difference in power was clear from the beginning, with the Italian taking a punch to the face and immediately walking to her corner to signal she would not carry on.
Angela Carini was in floods of tears as she stopped to speak in the interview area, having abandoned her bout with Imane Khelif after only 46 seconds. Her voice quavering, she said that she pulled out because she had never been hit so hard. Imane Khelif swept through the mixed zone without saying a word. It is staggering to think how only yesterday, Mark Adams, the International Olympic Committee’s spokesman, had said that everyone should just “dial down” the issue and not instigate a “witchhunt”. To reiterate, Khelif had failed two sex tests by the International Boxing Association. It is, frankly, an absolute scandal.
I must admit that I have not gone into this story in great depth. I usually avoid gender issues, as inadvertantly upsetting a particular side of an argument is all too easy. I listened to report on the news the other night regarding this story. The remarkable thing about this is that Imane Khelif was born a woman. She was born with a vagina. So she was born a woman, and competes as a woman. So why is there any need for any tests. She produces high levels of testosterone, but some women apparently do.
I think it is just wrong, and very unfair to have anyone that was born a man to be competing in womens sport. But surely that is a very straightforward test.
How on earth could we debating that someone who was born a woman, should not be allowed to compete as a woman. Whats next, very tall people disqualified from the high jump, to make it fairer for shorter people?
100% agree. This is a genuine woman in every sense of the word, she was born a woman & remains so. Her "sin" was to fail a test which showed she had abnormal levels of testosterone. Some women just do. The Media have been a disgrace with this story, very unfairly maligning her imo. Plus of course the usual suspects who criticise all things LGBTQ are all over it, saying how terrible it is, when in fact there's no case to answer - she's a straight female, & always has been.
The actual facts werent clearly evident when the story broke. Hence the comments people have made. I felt I was led to believe that she was born a man, and that was where the unfairness lay. Just above that story I posted another about a Team GB member, who has received medals in both men, and womens events. That is just wrong. The story seems to have crept under the radar, and nobody seems to have anything to say about it.
From what I can gather it's the presence of the Y chromosome in the IBA tests that are the concerns. Females have the XX chromosome and Males the XY, therefore a female displaying the XY chromosome fails to meet the IBA's criteria to compete against XX chromosome competitors due to the possible advantage/disadvantage to each competitor.
There is apparently a lot of secrecy over the tests, and exactly what they entail. In my book, someone that is born a woman, with a vagina, ia a woman, and someone who is born with a **** is a man.
In my view, any test that is designed to prove whether someone is a woman or not, that is able to prove that a woman is not a woman, it is the test that is wrong, rather than the woman.
I respect that people have the right to change this these days, but there is surely no place in womens sport for someone that was born a man.
It's a very complicated issue and one that won't get resolved on a poker forum by us mere mortals. Here's a shortened version of an article I read earlier but like politics/religion for every argument for, there's an argument against.
What is DSD? Rare condition explained amid Imane Khelif Olympic boxing row over XY chromosome.
This raises the question of what differences in sex development are – with The Independent speaking to an academic who specialises in this area to find out more.
What are the differences in sex development?
The term “differences in sex development”, or DSD, is used to refer to a wide range of different scenarios, with the NHS describing it as a “group of rare conditions involving genes, hormones and reproductive organs, including genitals” which “means a person’s sex development is different to most other people’s”.
Individuals can either have sex chromosomes generally linked with being female (XX chromosomes) or usually associated with being a man (XY chromosomes), yet have reproductive organs and genitals that may look different.
The NHS states that “a person may have a womb and may also have testicles inside their body. Sometimes the testicles might not work properly”.
It adds: “Some people with a very rare type of DSD have both ovarian and testicular tissue (sometimes one ovary and one testis). Their genitals may appear female or male or could look different from either.”
Claus Højbjerg Gravholt, a professor of genetic endocrinology, said it is impossible to state everyone with a Y chromosome is a male and everyone with an X chromosome is a female.
Professor Højbjerg Gravholt, who is based at Aarhus University in Denmark and works with patients who have differences in sex development, added: “If I showed you pictures of my patients without any clothes on, you would say, well, these are females that I'm looking at.
“But, in fact, they actually have a Y chromosome. And so it’s really coming back to, what is sex? Is sex something you can see out of the chromosomes? No, it’s not. Is sex something that you can see depending on which hormone, estrogen, or testosterone you preferentially produce? No, it’s not. Sex is much more complicated.”
When do differences in sex development emerge?
People generally find out they have a difference in sex development around when they are born or once they become a teenager.
But Professor Højbjerg Gravholt explained the last patient he had diagnosed was a woman in her early thirties who had sought help as she could not get pregnant.
“She had a normal vagina, a normal external female appearance, but did not have a uterus, and she also produced a lot of testosterone from her two testes, which were placed at the same place as the ovaries,” he added.
Her experience demonstrates how complicated differences in sex development are, he said, explaining the patient was “devastated” when he told her that she could not get pregnant due to not having a uterus.
Does a woman with an XY chromosome have periods and can she have children?
Professor Højbjerg Gravholt explains around half of the patients he sees do not have a uterus so they can’t carry a child through a pregnancy – while the other half have a uterus, but do not produce eggs.
These women would not have periods unless they are given sex hormones, he explained, adding that he has never encountered or heard of a woman with an XY chromosome who can have children.
He has worked out how to cash in on his world record performances and good luck to him. At each meeting when he breaks the WR even by 1cm he earns $100,000.
Mondo Duplantis Breaks Pole Vault World Record For The 9th Time, Wins Second Olympic Gold Medal.
If there is one promise that legendary pole vaulter Mondo Duplantis always delivers on, it's putting on a show. During today's Olympic pole vault final, Duplantis soared to another world record of 6.25 meters and earned his second Olympic gold medal.
Duplantis has broken the world record nine times, and he shows no signs of stopping soon, as he is only 24 years old.
Duplantis is just as smart as he is athletic. When spectators watch him compete, they can see there is still a considerable amount of room between him and the bar when he jumps record heights. This begs the question, why doesn't Duplantis attempt the next world record height if he knows he can get it?
The answer is money. Athletes receive a $100,000 bonus each time they break the world record. However, the caveat is that you only get it one time at the meet you broke it at. If Duplantis broke the record twice at the meet, he would still only receive $100,000 instead of $200,000.
An athlete such as Duplantis who recognizes this understands that they can maximize their financial return by waiting to break the world record again.
Imane Khelif, who failed gender test, wins after just 46 seconds when opponent abandons fight.
The controversial fight between Imane Khelif, the Algerian boxer who failed a sex test at last year’s World Championships, and Italy’s Angela Carini has been abandoned after just 46 seconds after the Italian suffered a suspected broken nose.
This fight had already detonated ferocious controversy, with the International Olympic Committee under mounting pressure to explain how a woman could be allowed into a boxing ring unsure of the sex of the person she was facing.
Khelif was banned from competing in a gold-medal bout in Delhi by the International Boxing Association, who said that the fighter’s “elevated levels of testosterone failed to meet the eligibility criteria”.
And yet she was still permitted by the IOC to fight at these Olympics and the difference in power was clear from the beginning, with the Italian taking a punch to the face and immediately walking to her corner to signal she would not carry on.
Angela Carini was in floods of tears as she stopped to speak in the interview area, having abandoned her bout with Imane Khelif after only 46 seconds. Her voice quavering, she said that she pulled out because she had never been hit so hard. Imane Khelif swept through the mixed zone without saying a word. It is staggering to think how only yesterday, Mark Adams, the International Olympic Committee’s spokesman, had said that everyone should just “dial down” the issue and not instigate a “witchhunt”. To reiterate, Khelif had failed two sex tests by the International Boxing Association. It is, frankly, an absolute scandal.
I must admit that I have not gone into this story in great depth. I usually avoid gender issues, as inadvertantly upsetting a particular side of an argument is all too easy. I listened to report on the news the other night regarding this story. The remarkable thing about this is that Imane Khelif was born a woman. She was born with a vagina. So she was born a woman, and competes as a woman. So why is there any need for any tests. She produces high levels of testosterone, but some women apparently do.
I think it is just wrong, and very unfair to have anyone that was born a man to be competing in womens sport. But surely that is a very straightforward test.
How on earth could we debating that someone who was born a woman, should not be allowed to compete as a woman. Whats next, very tall people disqualified from the high jump, to make it fairer for shorter people?
100% agree. This is a genuine woman in every sense of the word, she was born a woman & remains so. Her "sin" was to fail a test which showed she had abnormal levels of testosterone. Some women just do. The Media have been a disgrace with this story, very unfairly maligning her imo. Plus of course the usual suspects who criticise all things LGBTQ are all over it, saying how terrible it is, when in fact there's no case to answer - she's a straight female, & always has been.
The actual facts werent clearly evident when the story broke. Hence the comments people have made. I felt I was led to believe that she was born a man, and that was where the unfairness lay. Just above that story I posted another about a Team GB member, who has received medals in both men, and womens events. That is just wrong. The story seems to have crept under the radar, and nobody seems to have anything to say about it.
From what I can gather it's the presence of the Y chromosome in the IBA tests that are the concerns. Females have the XX chromosome and Males the XY, therefore a female displaying the XY chromosome fails to meet the IBA's criteria to compete against XX chromosome competitors due to the possible advantage/disadvantage to each competitor.
Imane Khelif, who failed gender test, wins after just 46 seconds when opponent abandons fight.
The controversial fight between Imane Khelif, the Algerian boxer who failed a sex test at last year’s World Championships, and Italy’s Angela Carini has been abandoned after just 46 seconds after the Italian suffered a suspected broken nose.
This fight had already detonated ferocious controversy, with the International Olympic Committee under mounting pressure to explain how a woman could be allowed into a boxing ring unsure of the sex of the person she was facing.
Khelif was banned from competing in a gold-medal bout in Delhi by the International Boxing Association, who said that the fighter’s “elevated levels of testosterone failed to meet the eligibility criteria”.
And yet she was still permitted by the IOC to fight at these Olympics and the difference in power was clear from the beginning, with the Italian taking a punch to the face and immediately walking to her corner to signal she would not carry on.
Angela Carini was in floods of tears as she stopped to speak in the interview area, having abandoned her bout with Imane Khelif after only 46 seconds. Her voice quavering, she said that she pulled out because she had never been hit so hard. Imane Khelif swept through the mixed zone without saying a word. It is staggering to think how only yesterday, Mark Adams, the International Olympic Committee’s spokesman, had said that everyone should just “dial down” the issue and not instigate a “witchhunt”. To reiterate, Khelif had failed two sex tests by the International Boxing Association. It is, frankly, an absolute scandal.
I must admit that I have not gone into this story in great depth. I usually avoid gender issues, as inadvertantly upsetting a particular side of an argument is all too easy. I listened to report on the news the other night regarding this story. The remarkable thing about this is that Imane Khelif was born a woman. She was born with a vagina. So she was born a woman, and competes as a woman. So why is there any need for any tests. She produces high levels of testosterone, but some women apparently do.
I think it is just wrong, and very unfair to have anyone that was born a man to be competing in womens sport. But surely that is a very straightforward test.
How on earth could we debating that someone who was born a woman, should not be allowed to compete as a woman. Whats next, very tall people disqualified from the high jump, to make it fairer for shorter people?
100% agree. This is a genuine woman in every sense of the word, she was born a woman & remains so. Her "sin" was to fail a test which showed she had abnormal levels of testosterone. Some women just do. The Media have been a disgrace with this story, very unfairly maligning her imo. Plus of course the usual suspects who criticise all things LGBTQ are all over it, saying how terrible it is, when in fact there's no case to answer - she's a straight female, & always has been.
The actual facts werent clearly evident when the story broke. Hence the comments people have made. I felt I was led to believe that she was born a man, and that was where the unfairness lay. Just above that story I posted another about a Team GB member, who has received medals in both men, and womens events. That is just wrong. The story seems to have crept under the radar, and nobody seems to have anything to say about it.
From what I can gather it's the presence of the Y chromosome in the IBA tests that are the concerns. Females have the XX chromosome and Males the XY, therefore a female displaying the XY chromosome fails to meet the IBA's criteria to compete against XX chromosome competitors due to the possible advantage/disadvantage to each competitor.
There is apparently a lot of secrecy over the tests, and exactly what they entail. In my book, someone that is born a woman, with a vagina, ia a woman, and someone who is born with a **** is a man.
In my view, any test that is designed to prove whether someone is a woman or not, that is able to prove that a woman is not a woman, it is the test that is wrong, rather than the woman.
I respect that people have the right to change this these days, but there is surely no place in womens sport for someone that was born a man.
It's a very complicated issue and one that won't get resolved on a poker forum by us mere mortals. Here's a shortened version of an article I read earlier but like politics/religion for every argument for, there's an argument against.
What is DSD? Rare condition explained amid Imane Khelif Olympic boxing row over XY chromosome.
This raises the question of what differences in sex development are – with The Independent speaking to an academic who specialises in this area to find out more.
What are the differences in sex development?
The term “differences in sex development”, or DSD, is used to refer to a wide range of different scenarios, with the NHS describing it as a “group of rare conditions involving genes, hormones and reproductive organs, including genitals” which “means a person’s sex development is different to most other people’s”.
Individuals can either have sex chromosomes generally linked with being female (XX chromosomes) or usually associated with being a man (XY chromosomes), yet have reproductive organs and genitals that may look different.
The NHS states that “a person may have a womb and may also have testicles inside their body. Sometimes the testicles might not work properly”.
It adds: “Some people with a very rare type of DSD have both ovarian and testicular tissue (sometimes one ovary and one testis). Their genitals may appear female or male or could look different from either.”
Claus Højbjerg Gravholt, a professor of genetic endocrinology, said it is impossible to state everyone with a Y chromosome is a male and everyone with an X chromosome is a female.
Professor Højbjerg Gravholt, who is based at Aarhus University in Denmark and works with patients who have differences in sex development, added: “If I showed you pictures of my patients without any clothes on, you would say, well, these are females that I'm looking at.
“But, in fact, they actually have a Y chromosome. And so it’s really coming back to, what is sex? Is sex something you can see out of the chromosomes? No, it’s not. Is sex something that you can see depending on which hormone, estrogen, or testosterone you preferentially produce? No, it’s not. Sex is much more complicated.”
When do differences in sex development emerge?
People generally find out they have a difference in sex development around when they are born or once they become a teenager.
But Professor Højbjerg Gravholt explained the last patient he had diagnosed was a woman in her early thirties who had sought help as she could not get pregnant.
“She had a normal vagina, a normal external female appearance, but did not have a uterus, and she also produced a lot of testosterone from her two testes, which were placed at the same place as the ovaries,” he added.
Her experience demonstrates how complicated differences in sex development are, he said, explaining the patient was “devastated” when he told her that she could not get pregnant due to not having a uterus.
Does a woman with an XY chromosome have periods and can she have children?
Professor Højbjerg Gravholt explains around half of the patients he sees do not have a uterus so they can’t carry a child through a pregnancy – while the other half have a uterus, but do not produce eggs.
These women would not have periods unless they are given sex hormones, he explained, adding that he has never encountered or heard of a woman with an XY chromosome who can have children.
Imane Khelif, who failed gender test, wins after just 46 seconds when opponent abandons fight.
The controversial fight between Imane Khelif, the Algerian boxer who failed a sex test at last year’s World Championships, and Italy’s Angela Carini has been abandoned after just 46 seconds after the Italian suffered a suspected broken nose.
This fight had already detonated ferocious controversy, with the International Olympic Committee under mounting pressure to explain how a woman could be allowed into a boxing ring unsure of the sex of the person she was facing.
Khelif was banned from competing in a gold-medal bout in Delhi by the International Boxing Association, who said that the fighter’s “elevated levels of testosterone failed to meet the eligibility criteria”.
And yet she was still permitted by the IOC to fight at these Olympics and the difference in power was clear from the beginning, with the Italian taking a punch to the face and immediately walking to her corner to signal she would not carry on.
Angela Carini was in floods of tears as she stopped to speak in the interview area, having abandoned her bout with Imane Khelif after only 46 seconds. Her voice quavering, she said that she pulled out because she had never been hit so hard. Imane Khelif swept through the mixed zone without saying a word. It is staggering to think how only yesterday, Mark Adams, the International Olympic Committee’s spokesman, had said that everyone should just “dial down” the issue and not instigate a “witchhunt”. To reiterate, Khelif had failed two sex tests by the International Boxing Association. It is, frankly, an absolute scandal.
I must admit that I have not gone into this story in great depth. I usually avoid gender issues, as inadvertantly upsetting a particular side of an argument is all too easy. I listened to report on the news the other night regarding this story. The remarkable thing about this is that Imane Khelif was born a woman. She was born with a vagina. So she was born a woman, and competes as a woman. So why is there any need for any tests. She produces high levels of testosterone, but some women apparently do.
I think it is just wrong, and very unfair to have anyone that was born a man to be competing in womens sport. But surely that is a very straightforward test.
How on earth could we debating that someone who was born a woman, should not be allowed to compete as a woman. Whats next, very tall people disqualified from the high jump, to make it fairer for shorter people?
100% agree. This is a genuine woman in every sense of the word, she was born a woman & remains so. Her "sin" was to fail a test which showed she had abnormal levels of testosterone. Some women just do. The Media have been a disgrace with this story, very unfairly maligning her imo. Plus of course the usual suspects who criticise all things LGBTQ are all over it, saying how terrible it is, when in fact there's no case to answer - she's a straight female, & always has been.
The actual facts werent clearly evident when the story broke. Hence the comments people have made. I felt I was led to believe that she was born a man, and that was where the unfairness lay. Just above that story I posted another about a Team GB member, who has received medals in both men, and womens events. That is just wrong. The story seems to have crept under the radar, and nobody seems to have anything to say about it.
From what I can gather it's the presence of the Y chromosome in the IBA tests that are the concerns. Females have the XX chromosome and Males the XY, therefore a female displaying the XY chromosome fails to meet the IBA's criteria to compete against XX chromosome competitors due to the possible advantage/disadvantage to each competitor.
Imane Khelif, who failed gender test, wins after just 46 seconds when opponent abandons fight.
The controversial fight between Imane Khelif, the Algerian boxer who failed a sex test at last year’s World Championships, and Italy’s Angela Carini has been abandoned after just 46 seconds after the Italian suffered a suspected broken nose.
This fight had already detonated ferocious controversy, with the International Olympic Committee under mounting pressure to explain how a woman could be allowed into a boxing ring unsure of the sex of the person she was facing.
Khelif was banned from competing in a gold-medal bout in Delhi by the International Boxing Association, who said that the fighter’s “elevated levels of testosterone failed to meet the eligibility criteria”.
And yet she was still permitted by the IOC to fight at these Olympics and the difference in power was clear from the beginning, with the Italian taking a punch to the face and immediately walking to her corner to signal she would not carry on.
Angela Carini was in floods of tears as she stopped to speak in the interview area, having abandoned her bout with Imane Khelif after only 46 seconds. Her voice quavering, she said that she pulled out because she had never been hit so hard. Imane Khelif swept through the mixed zone without saying a word. It is staggering to think how only yesterday, Mark Adams, the International Olympic Committee’s spokesman, had said that everyone should just “dial down” the issue and not instigate a “witchhunt”. To reiterate, Khelif had failed two sex tests by the International Boxing Association. It is, frankly, an absolute scandal.
I must admit that I have not gone into this story in great depth. I usually avoid gender issues, as inadvertantly upsetting a particular side of an argument is all too easy. I listened to report on the news the other night regarding this story. The remarkable thing about this is that Imane Khelif was born a woman. She was born with a vagina. So she was born a woman, and competes as a woman. So why is there any need for any tests. She produces high levels of testosterone, but some women apparently do.
I think it is just wrong, and very unfair to have anyone that was born a man to be competing in womens sport. But surely that is a very straightforward test.
How on earth could we debating that someone who was born a woman, should not be allowed to compete as a woman. Whats next, very tall people disqualified from the high jump, to make it fairer for shorter people?
100% agree. This is a genuine woman in every sense of the word, she was born a woman & remains so. Her "sin" was to fail a test which showed she had abnormal levels of testosterone. Some women just do. The Media have been a disgrace with this story, very unfairly maligning her imo. Plus of course the usual suspects who criticise all things LGBTQ are all over it, saying how terrible it is, when in fact there's no case to answer - she's a straight female, & always has been.
The actual facts werent clearly evident when the story broke. Hence the comments people have made. I felt I was led to believe that she was born a man, and that was where the unfairness lay. Just above that story I posted another about a Team GB member, who has received medals in both men, and womens events. That is just wrong. The story seems to have crept under the radar, and nobody seems to have anything to say about it.
From what I can gather it's the presence of the Y chromosome in the IBA tests that are the concerns. Females have the XX chromosome and Males the XY, therefore a female displaying the XY chromosome fails to meet the IBA's criteria to compete against XX chromosome competitors due to the possible advantage/disadvantage to each competitor.
There is apparently a lot of secrecy over the tests, and exactly what they entail. In my book, someone that is born a woman, with a vagina, ia a woman, and someone who is born with a **** is a man.
In my view, any test that is designed to prove whether someone is a woman or not, that is able to prove that a woman is not a woman, it is the test that is wrong, rather than the woman.
I respect that people have the right to change this these days, but there is surely no place in womens sport for someone that was born a man.
What we know about the Olympic boxing gender controversy
What have Olympics bosses said? At a press conference on Saturday morning, IOC president Thomas Bach spoke out against the "hate speech" aimed at Lin and Khelif over social media.
"We have two boxers who are born as a woman, who have been raised as a woman, who have a passport as a woman and who have competed for many years as a woman," he said. "This is the clear definition of a woman. There was never any doubt about them being a woman."
Defending its stance, the IOC has previously said Khelif and Lin "have been competing in international boxing competitions for many years in the women’s category," and that the "current aggression against these two athletes is based entirely on this arbitrary decision [from the IBA last year] which was taken without any proper procedure".
Speaking on Friday, IOC spokesman Mark Adams urged people to "try to take the culture war out of this" and said "the IOC is always trying to do a balance between inclusivity and fairness".
Serbia are somehow beating the US at basketball, hopefully they can do it. After the NBA has been fixing things for entertainment risking turning the NBA into the WWE I have been holding out hopes they get beaten again in the basketball and suddenly feel they need to bring back proper basketball to the NBA for US to be able to win internationally.
Somehow Serbia are beating them and we just got to hope they can do it.
Turkey’s viral Olympian Yusuf Dikeç inspires new celebration with nonchalant stance.
Turkey’s understated Olympian Yusuf Dikeç went viral for his nonchalant stance while competing in the air pistol mixed team competition event last week.
While his opponents took to the competition wearing specialized equipment, Dikeç helped Turkey win its first ever Olympic medal in shooting in what looked to be his everyday glasses and with one hand in his pocket.
Now, it appears Dikeç’s “insane aura” has inspired a new celebration that has spread across this year’s Games.
Chief among the athletes to adopt the new craze is Mondo Duplantis. The Swedish star – one of the greatest athletes of his generation – broke the world record on the way to winning yet another Olympic gold in the pole vault on Monday.
With the eyes of the world watching his celebrations, Duplantis appeared to mimic Dikeç’s cold stance – hand in a make-shift pocket and an outstretched arm holding an imaginary gun.
Duplantis is not the only athlete to pay tribute to Dikeç’s laid-back look.
Jamaican discuss thrower Rojé Stona performed the same celebration after winning gold on Wednesday, while Australia’s Nina Kennedy was inspired to do the same after winning the women’s pole vault title.
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In my book, someone that is born a woman, with a vagina, ia a woman, and someone who is born with a **** is a man.
In my view, any test that is designed to prove whether someone is a woman or not, that is able to prove that a woman is not a woman, it is the test that is wrong, rather than the woman.
I respect that people have the right to change this these days, but there is surely no place in womens sport for someone that was born a man.
What do you think the test proved?
There are 2 choices.
So did it prove she was a man with a vagina?
https://www.sportskeeda.com/mma/news-fact-check-did-imane-khelif-fail-gender-eligibility-test-a-look-algerian-boxer-s-path-paris-olympics
What is DSD? Rare condition explained amid Imane Khelif Olympic boxing row over XY chromosome.
This raises the question of what differences in sex development are – with The Independent speaking to an academic who specialises in this area to find out more.
What are the differences in sex development?
The term “differences in sex development”, or DSD, is used to refer to a wide range of different scenarios, with the NHS describing it as a “group of rare conditions involving genes, hormones and reproductive organs, including genitals” which “means a person’s sex development is different to most other people’s”.
Individuals can either have sex chromosomes generally linked with being female (XX chromosomes) or usually associated with being a man (XY chromosomes), yet have reproductive organs and genitals that may look different.
The NHS states that “a person may have a womb and may also have testicles inside their body. Sometimes the testicles might not work properly”.
It adds: “Some people with a very rare type of DSD have both ovarian and testicular tissue (sometimes one ovary and one testis). Their genitals may appear female or male or could look different from either.”
Claus Højbjerg Gravholt, a professor of genetic endocrinology, said it is impossible to state everyone with a Y chromosome is a male and everyone with an X chromosome is a female.
Professor Højbjerg Gravholt, who is based at Aarhus University in Denmark and works with patients who have differences in sex development, added: “If I showed you pictures of my patients without any clothes on, you would say, well, these are females that I'm looking at.
“But, in fact, they actually have a Y chromosome. And so it’s really coming back to, what is sex? Is sex something you can see out of the chromosomes? No, it’s not. Is sex something that you can see depending on which hormone, estrogen, or testosterone you preferentially produce? No, it’s not. Sex is much more complicated.”
When do differences in sex development emerge?
People generally find out they have a difference in sex development around when they are born or once they become a teenager.
But Professor Højbjerg Gravholt explained the last patient he had diagnosed was a woman in her early thirties who had sought help as she could not get pregnant.
“She had a normal vagina, a normal external female appearance, but did not have a uterus, and she also produced a lot of testosterone from her two testes, which were placed at the same place as the ovaries,” he added.
Her experience demonstrates how complicated differences in sex development are, he said, explaining the patient was “devastated” when he told her that she could not get pregnant due to not having a uterus.
Does a woman with an XY chromosome have periods and can she have children?
Professor Højbjerg Gravholt explains around half of the patients he sees do not have a uterus so they can’t carry a child through a pregnancy – while the other half have a uterus, but do not produce eggs.
These women would not have periods unless they are given sex hormones, he explained, adding that he has never encountered or heard of a woman with an XY chromosome who can have children.
Mondo Duplantis Breaks Pole Vault World Record For The 9th Time, Wins Second Olympic Gold Medal.
If there is one promise that legendary pole vaulter Mondo Duplantis always delivers on, it's putting on a show. During today's Olympic pole vault final, Duplantis soared to another world record of 6.25 meters and earned his second Olympic gold medal.
Duplantis has broken the world record nine times, and he shows no signs of stopping soon, as he is only 24 years old.
Duplantis is just as smart as he is athletic. When spectators watch him compete, they can see there is still a considerable amount of room between him and the bar when he jumps record heights. This begs the question, why doesn't Duplantis attempt the next world record height if he knows he can get it?
The answer is money. Athletes receive a $100,000 bonus each time they break the world record. However, the caveat is that you only get it one time at the meet you broke it at. If Duplantis broke the record twice at the meet, he would still only receive $100,000 instead of $200,000.
An athlete such as Duplantis who recognizes this understands that they can maximize their financial return by waiting to break the world record again.
Somehow Serbia are beating them and we just got to hope they can do it.
https://www.tiktok.com/@kreme14/video/7399137740714937617?is_from_webapp=1&sender_device=pc
https://x.com/BBCSport/status/1820791228473974977
https://x.com/BBCSport/status/1820528884049227927
https://x.com/Aadam_12/status/1821504720382415267
https://x.com/BSBDOutdoors/status/1821140150996410466
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They really are extraordinary, racing up that wall in about 5 seconds.
<img src="https://us.v-cdn.net/6030042/uploads/editor/9j/yo8lqddq54zq.png" alt="" width="300" height="auto" /><img src="https://us.v-cdn.net/6030042/uploads/editor/9j/yo8lqddq54zq.png" alt="" width="200" height="auto" /><img src="https://us.v-cdn.net/6030042/uploads/editor/9j/yo8lqddq54zq.png" alt="" width="100" height="auto" /><img src="https://us.v-cdn.net/6030042/uploads/editor/9j/yo8lqddq54zq.png" alt="" width="50" height="auto" />https://www.msn.com/en-gb/sport/boxing/i-m-a-female-aussie-boxer-and-i-battered-imane-khelif-in-the-ring-you-might-see-her-as-a-man-but-she-wasn-t-even-that-strong/ar-AA1oxhJk?ocid=msedgntp&pc=NMTS&cvid=c6a5aa17f16f4b27b0b00573b77581a4&ei=19#fullscreen
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/sport/boxing/olympic-2024-imane-khelif-overcomes-gender-accusations-to-win-boxing-gold-medal/ar-AA1oxLWk?ocid=msedgntp&pc=NMTS&cvid=2f04a7b7c43748e287b336af54048402&ei=22#fullscreen
Turkey’s understated Olympian Yusuf Dikeç went viral for his nonchalant stance while competing in the air pistol mixed team competition event last week.
While his opponents took to the competition wearing specialized equipment, Dikeç helped Turkey win its first ever Olympic medal in shooting in what looked to be his everyday glasses and with one hand in his pocket.
Now, it appears Dikeç’s “insane aura” has inspired a new celebration that has spread across this year’s Games.
Chief among the athletes to adopt the new craze is Mondo Duplantis. The Swedish star – one of the greatest athletes of his generation – broke the world record on the way to winning yet another Olympic gold in the pole vault on Monday.
With the eyes of the world watching his celebrations, Duplantis appeared to mimic Dikeç’s cold stance – hand in a make-shift pocket and an outstretched arm holding an imaginary gun.
Duplantis is not the only athlete to pay tribute to Dikeç’s laid-back look.
Jamaican discuss thrower Rojé Stona performed the same celebration after winning gold on Wednesday, while Australia’s Nina Kennedy was inspired to do the same after winning the women’s pole vault title.