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Filth (Jeremy Kyle)
So I was going to call this thread Jeremy Kyle then I thought no I will just call it filth but then people may not know what the thread was about so I comprimised on this title.
Anyway The guy is absolute filth and way worse then even the worst of the BBC he is utter total Scum and if there was any real justice in the world he would get a life sentence and never see the day of light again, but obviously that wont happen.
Will be following the news regarding this inquest court thing and hoping for the absolute worst for the guy.
If the general election was now and in my area it was between Jeremy Kyle and Nigel Farage I would be left with no choice but to not just vote for Nigel but actively campaign leaflet for him etc and we know I am definitely not a fan of Nigel.
Anyway The guy is absolute filth and way worse then even the worst of the BBC he is utter total Scum and if there was any real justice in the world he would get a life sentence and never see the day of light again, but obviously that wont happen.
Will be following the news regarding this inquest court thing and hoping for the absolute worst for the guy.
If the general election was now and in my area it was between Jeremy Kyle and Nigel Farage I would be left with no choice but to not just vote for Nigel but actively campaign leaflet for him etc and we know I am definitely not a fan of Nigel.
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Who gets your vote if it was between these two?
However the vast majorty of the guests on the Jeremy Kyle show were functioning on an intelectual level below the average did they just get unlucky in the genetic lottery or have poor circumstances in life or both? Whichever looking down on them ridiculiuing and humiliating them for entertainment fully motivated for profit not caring what damage you do to their life is despicable.
Why were the guests so often clearly not that bright do you think that was a coincidence, well to me two factors stand out, firstly smart people were much less likely to go on that show and then secondly they would be harder to exploit like this so there was very likely a selection bias for those they could exploit easier.
Jeremy Kyle came from a background of wealth and priveldge and used his position to profiter from exploiting and humiliating those who came from very disadvabtaged backgrounds for nothing else but pure profit whilst trying to masquarade as bastion of moral standing.
Now the Lie dector, do you or anyone on this forum geniunely believe in these? There are some proponents that argue high accuracy rates up to 90% if done by experts but the majority of studies into this have shown reliability barely greater then random chance. If we assume for the sake of argument 90% then that would mean 10% of people who took these lie detector tests were failed by them. meaning people who were in abusive manipulative relationships where the individual was stealing cheating both or other things apologised when the abuser passed the test and remained suffering in that dynamic. Meanwhile those who were innocent were often villified to everyone.
I assume you or I would never go through this charade because we would have researched at least a little into how reliable these things were before we would ever entertain going on the show. However those less informed/educated often believed these lie detector tests were absolute water tight, some guests even appeared to believe they almost had mystical powers like some sort of psychic device able to tell you gave a factually incorrect answer even if you geniunely believed it to be true and that this could never be wrong.
Guests were peer pressured into going on, I am not going to speculate on innocent and guilty of certain shows and there have been many so wont chance it with actual names so Lets say for example one of the who stole it episodes if we have a family of lets call them A B C D and E and these five individuals are alleged to have stolen Grandmas precious Wedding ring, now B C D and E all go on the show and pass the lie detector test easily now Jemery Kyle says ok B C D and E all passed the test we cant comment on A because they didnt come on but we can guess why or something to that affect implying that is reasonable to believe that A was the theif. So A knows that if he does not go on the show he is likely going to be assumed guilty so he forces himself on. Of course they say its a choice but its peer pressure and almost guilty until proven innocent.
Now in this example A is not the theif the theif is actually C but they all go on the show and A comes out as the liar and C passes now the entire family will never speak to A again and his entire community and network ostracise him his life is effectively ruined and C can continue to exploit and steal from friends and family for much longer, whilst people apologise for ever doubting him.
They knew what they were doing how many lifes were ruined like this They sold the lie detector tests as gospal They have ruined the lifes of so many vulnerable people knowing full well what they were doing purely for profit.
In terms of Morality the supposed moral upstanding being Jeremy Kyle is not fit to clean the shoes of the vast majority of guests that were on the show.
That is why I hate him. How many lives did they knowingly ruin?
I find it sad beyond words that anyone living in the UK where, relatively speaking, life is fantastic, can harbour so much hate. Football clubs, people, TV shows, neighbours, pubs, sheesh.
Try a bit more loving, it makes life so much nicer, both for you, & for those around you.
The clue is often how they want to be famous. These people don't want to be a famous footballer or pop star or Professional anything. Because that requires 2 things-talent and hard work. These people want to be famous without any of that.
I (like most people) tried to avoid Jeremy Kyle on TV. It was car crash TV. And, much like a car crash, sadly compelling viewing once you had watched it for 5 minutes. Which is, of course, the best reason not to watch it for 5 minutes.
Jeremy Kyle was just doing his job. And doing it quite well. It is the makers and Producers of these sorts of programmes that need closer scrutiny. Because lots of the participants clearly have significant mental health problems before appearing.
Some people gush over these sorts of programmes. The latest is probably MAFS (Married at First Sight)-truly appalling. ITVBe is a channel full of similar rubbish.
Here's a tip. My TV has the facility both to change channels and to be turned off.
And people who like this sort of stuff can watch it-although there needs to be greater oversight.
Much to agree with there. And let's not forget, the Jeremy Kyle Show was just a franchise/copy/rip off of the pioneer of that sort of TV, the Jerry Springer Show.
I suppose if I watched that sort of trash TV I might get emotionally involved, as David has, but I prefer to take the less bumpy road in life & watch TV that is altogether more wholesome.
I cant imagine why anyone would be interested in watching, but apparently an average of a million people per day did.
I dont know much about the story, but you have to feel sorry for the guy that committed suicide.
I heard a short news report yesterday.
They said that the guy had taken 4 overdoses before going on the show.
If so, it is surely impossible to blame the show, or anyone on it.
So in this example people just try and blame the 1 show. Whereas, as you rightly say, there were clearly major pre-existing problems. And the subsequent TV appearances may have been trying to do good, but may well have been just as destructive.
That said, some of the blame may rest with the show. Just not all of it.
However I tend to negative day dream a lot if that is the right descryption and I have imagined a different me in a different world going on the show. How in this world of my imagination shall we say my family are on the show and the accusation of the item been stolen is tested with a lie detector test. I know I havent done but I fail my whole family will never talk to me again and I am villified from all family and friends I am now isolated and alone in live.
This scenario is something that could not have happened because no one in family would go on the show or take that test seriously and if they did truly believe I had stolen from them I am sure there would be a lot of negative consequences but I would guess not just outright cut out of the family. Its not something I have ever put to the test or ever plan to. However I can imagine this scenario how low I would feel by myself the negative state I might be in this scenario no one to turn to villified to the nation and everyone who I ever knew ostracised and shamed even though I know I am innocent. How would that affect me what would I do how long would I suffer and be in a kind of ****?
Thats what the show did to people, many were peer pressured eg implied guilt of the theft if they didnt go on. Were these people unfortunate in life, maybe even failed by society very possibly most likely in most cases in fact. Sure the Jeremy Kyle show wasnt responsible for how people were when they found them but they were responsible for how they treated them once they did.
Is Jeremy Kyle himself soley responsible for all of this? no of course not there is a whole organisation responible for this but he knew he cant not of known what he was doing and he went along with it for his salary there is no exoneration I see for Jeremy Kyle here just that others need to be held to account as well.
He should hang around with these punters for a wee while....
It seems no one acknwolegdes my point I am just this monster hate filled person?
Why because I enjoy booing a team instead of supporting a team its just a distraction from every day stressed and a hobby its illogical to massively care about sports the truth is if Southampton were to win the premiership the champions league the fa cup the league cup the world club cup or whatever that is and that charity shield thing all in the same year sure I would be annoyed and dissapointed but it wouldnt ruin my life because its just a hobby its not real in depth hatred I just enjoy booing them.
and yeah I hate people and organisations that delibrately exploit vulnerable people for gain its such a shame that this country produced a hate filled person like me?
but its exusable and understandable with all the anti semeticism and etc?
Whatever also I could never get on with Harry Krishnas because they believe I was a Nonze in a past life which by their beliefs puts me in the same category as Jimmy Savile etc. Maybe people here agree?
Yeah I criticize Christianity and Islam I also dont have much appreciation for Hinduism either, look basically find a religion and I either resent it as an immoral illogical fable of delusion or I have not looked into it enough yet.
That been said Yes I can recognise that whilst all religion is filth that does not mean all religious people are, there are plenty of decent religious people of all faiths. However if a religion believes I was evil in a past life I cant see me been welcome in their crowd and if I am its more as me repenting and them gracefully accepting the horrible filth that is I, yeah I will give that a miss.
btw Reincarnation does not make sense unless this is my first life problem of identity if I have no memory no causal conscious connection what makes the supposed last person from a past life me?
I suppose you could say disadvantaged in the sense that social skills can be vital to success maybe even more so then actual ability or intelligence but I dont recall saying disadvantaged either.
The only thing I can recollect is a picture of a Winni who was in a wheel chair and looked like a very simple winni which I created with AI to say all different kinds of winnis were coming out to boo Southampton but by that logic I present myself as an ancient Egyptian mummy an alien and a caveman.
dont ever compare me to Jeremy Kyle that is unacceptable. I never claim to be a good or bad person but I certainly claim to be more moral then Jeremy Kyle that is not exactly a high bar to hit though.
I say when something seems disgusting to me I do feel sadness and sympathy for the guy that did take his life. Based on it all I do think he did not cheat and I do think that he was a victim fully believing the lie detector test.
the Impression I get of the guy is a simple/not so bright guy who was a thoroughly nice likeable person who had mental challenges who was a victim of the show in a very similar way I describe in the example I gave.
It does legit bring a tear to my eye imagining the state he must have been, I wont say I have been there myself because that would not be right and would be unfair on the guy. However when I broke up with my first girlfriend I thought I would never find anyone else and I felt it was all my fault and at the time I was so down despondent stressed out depressed etc that I literally struggled to follow the plot of a kids cartoon. this was a long time ago but I was not in the best way back then. I imagine this guy been in a similar but even worse state and yeah I feel a lot of anger over how he was exploited for this and hurt as a result for stuck up rich privileged people who had everything handed to them in life to make profit. That anger produces hate in me I guess.
Firstly you need to accept that we live in an unfair world. You can't hate the rich and privileged simply for the fact that you feel they have a better quality of everything.
The only thing that hate will do is destroy you and your life, and to what end. The rich will still be rich, the privileged still privileged and the beat goes on.
So what can we do eh. Well focus on making yourself feel better.
Try exercising to the point where you are physically unable to do any more, where you are a sodden mass of sweat and exhaustion and then as you recover experience those endorphins firing in your brain.
Do something a little scary, give yourself an adrenaline rush and experience the sense of excitement after it passes.
Or how about this one. Go and buy 2 packs of sandwiches, a couple of cans of beer and then find a rough sleeper or a homeless person and sit and have a meal with them.
Seriously, it's hard to hate when your knackered, excited or making someone happy.
Excellent post by @TheEdge949
I fear it will fall on stony ground though.