Former Harrods boss Mohamed al-Fayed accused of sexual assault by 20 women: ‘A monster

HAYSIE

https://uk.yahoo.com/news/mohammed-al-fayed-raped-five-062828029.html

Essexphil

These sorts of stories only tend to come out after someone has died. simply because it is not usually possible to defame the dead. Or for Lawyers to threaten people who claim these sorts of things.

And I would like to confirm that at no time did I ever advise anyone in relation to this. Or the infamous disciplinary BJs. Or what was sometimes requested in return for a pay rise.

No idea if he actually did these things. But a lot more than 5 people said he did...

Tikay10

@Essexphil





You should have triple spaced the paragraphs Phil.





Like this.





To help readers read between the lines...

Essexphil

Couldn't possibly comment

Enut

What's the old saying? Money talks?
It seems it's more like 'Money stops people talking!'
Absolutely not surprised at all about these allegations, he's one of long list of wealthy, 'successful', people who have abused their power and got away with it/are getting away with it.

stokefc

Another scumbag abusing his power who got away with it, you can bet your bottom dollar there's hundreds if not thousands doing it today
What is it with people, I despair

HAYSIE

Starmer under fire over failure to charge Fayed as chief prosecutor


https://uk.yahoo.com/news/starmer-under-fire-over-failure-183313325.html

HAYSIE

Former Harrods boss Mohamed al-Fayed accused of sexual assault by 20 women: ‘A monster with no moral compass’


https://uk.yahoo.com/news/more-20-women-accuse-former-072202102.html

HAYSIE

Bean81

I didn't know Next has a sale on.

Probably not the best front page to share.

Doubleme

the guy literally ticks every single box of the two tier system there is like no chance of that guy actually entering a prison cell if found guilty he prolly gets 3-6 month suspended sentence.

HAYSIE

Doubleme said:

the guy literally ticks every single box of the two tier system there is like no chance of that guy actually entering a prison cell if found guilty he prolly gets 3-6 month suspended sentence.

This is true, he died last year.

Doubleme

HAYSIE said:

Doubleme said:

the guy literally ticks every single box of the two tier system there is like no chance of that guy actually entering a prison cell if found guilty he prolly gets 3-6 month suspended sentence.

This is true, he died last year.

did not know he died dang he got totally away with it then I dont keep track of how long rich billionaires with no moral compass live I more focus on the prospect of nuclear war with Russia btw mega thread about that coming in when I get round to it.

VespaPX

P Diddy is a much bigger story.
Oh and he didn't kill himself......

Enut

How many of these women will have been paid hush money to sign NDAs? I wonder how it feels to have taken the money and therefore allowed numerous other women to be abused? Was it worth it?

Essexphil

Enut said:

How many of these women will have been paid hush money to sign NDAs? I wonder how it feels to have taken the money and therefore allowed numerous other women to be abused? Was it worth it?

That is often exactly the case. Every time someone takes the money, or takes the money and then opens the box, more people get abused. As a general rule, I am in total agreement.

But, and I am sure you appreciate I might only be guessing here, that may not be true in these cases. Because occasionally someone is so utterly appalling that they don't even bother with NDAs and the like.

HAYSIE

Essexphil said:

Enut said:

How many of these women will have been paid hush money to sign NDAs? I wonder how it feels to have taken the money and therefore allowed numerous other women to be abused? Was it worth it?

That is often exactly the case. Every time someone takes the money, or takes the money and then opens the box, more people get abused. As a general rule, I am in total agreement.

But, and I am sure you appreciate I might only be guessing here, that may not be true in these cases. Because occasionally someone is so utterly appalling that they don't even bother with NDAs and the like.

You surely have to feel some empathy for the victims.
I have not read much about the story, but I saw a bit of this mornings presser.
One of the woman was in a psychiatric ward for 6 months, has not had a relationship since, and is probably scarred for life.

HAYSIE

What we know about Mohammed Al-Fayed rape claims and alleged cover-up
The former Harrods owner, who died in 2023, has been compared to Jimmy Savile, Jeffrey Epstein and Harvey Weinstein.


https://uk.yahoo.com/news/mohammed-al-fayed-rape-harrods-095545022.html

Essexphil

HAYSIE said:

Essexphil said:

Enut said:

How many of these women will have been paid hush money to sign NDAs? I wonder how it feels to have taken the money and therefore allowed numerous other women to be abused? Was it worth it?

That is often exactly the case. Every time someone takes the money, or takes the money and then opens the box, more people get abused. As a general rule, I am in total agreement.

But, and I am sure you appreciate I might only be guessing here, that may not be true in these cases. Because occasionally someone is so utterly appalling that they don't even bother with NDAs and the like.

You surely have to feel some empathy for the victims.
I have not read much about the story, but I saw a bit of this mornings presser.
One of the woman was in a psychiatric ward for 6 months, has not had a relationship since, and is probably scarred for life.

Nearly. But not quite.

I have considerable empathy for some of the victims. But not all.

There will be women who were pressurised terribly. And there will be women who made a (for them) rational decision that the money was worth it.

It's like with Epstein. I remember my Wife saying that she felt really sorry for the naive ones. But that, if she were a nubile 20-something unknown being invited to a major premiere by a famous older man, she would have had a clear plan for what she wanted to do when he got his kn0b out.

People lap up this sort of story without appreciating what is behind it.

So-for example-unless 1 of the limited exceptions apply, normally have to sue within 3 years for Personal Injury. Hence the 1 paraded with the psychiatric story. And the lurid details.

Because the assailant died years ago. And left Harrods 14 years ago. And it is the current owners of Harrods being sued-who were not involved in any way at the time. So the Lawyers are trying to show that some claims may not be out of time, plus major reputational damage, to squeeze a settlement out of the current owners.

HAYSIE

Essexphil said:

HAYSIE said:

Essexphil said:

Enut said:

How many of these women will have been paid hush money to sign NDAs? I wonder how it feels to have taken the money and therefore allowed numerous other women to be abused? Was it worth it?

That is often exactly the case. Every time someone takes the money, or takes the money and then opens the box, more people get abused. As a general rule, I am in total agreement.

But, and I am sure you appreciate I might only be guessing here, that may not be true in these cases. Because occasionally someone is so utterly appalling that they don't even bother with NDAs and the like.

You surely have to feel some empathy for the victims.
I have not read much about the story, but I saw a bit of this mornings presser.
One of the woman was in a psychiatric ward for 6 months, has not had a relationship since, and is probably scarred for life.

Nearly. But not quite.

I have considerable empathy for some of the victims. But not all.

There will be women who were pressurised terribly. And there will be women who made a (for them) rational decision that the money was worth it.

It's like with Epstein. I remember my Wife saying that she felt really sorry for the naive ones. But that, if she were a nubile 20-something unknown being invited to a major premiere by a famous older man, she would have had a clear plan for what she wanted to do when he got his kn0b out.

People lap up this sort of story without appreciating what is behind it.

So-for example-unless 1 of the limited exceptions apply, normally have to sue within 3 years for Personal Injury. Hence the 1 paraded with the psychiatric story. And the lurid details.

Because the assailant died years ago. And left Harrods 14 years ago. And it is the current owners of Harrods being sued-who were not involved in any way at the time. So the Lawyers are trying to show that some claims may not be out of time, plus major reputational damage, to squeeze a settlement out of the current owners.

Referring to Fayed, who died last year at 94, as “the chairman”, Natacha said he “preyed on the most vulnerable – those of us who needed to pay the rent and some of us who didn’t have parents to protect them”. She called him a “highly manipulative” figure who initially went out of his way to make her feel safe and comfortable at work.

“Mohamed Al Fayed, a sick predator, lured me in by using the same modus operandi he used time and time again. I was subjected to Aids and STD testing without consent, and now believe in hindsight I was checked for my purity.”

Once he had lured her in, Natacha said Fayed started to use private meetings to subject her to an escalating campaign of physical abuse. This culminated with her being summoned to his private apartment one night “on the pretext of a job review”.

She said: “The door was locked behind me … I saw his bedroom door partially open – there were sex toys on view. I felt petrified. I perched myself at the very end of the sofa and then … Mohamed Al Fayed, my boss, the person I worked for, pushed himself on to me.”

She said after she was able to fight to free herself from his attack, “he laughed at me. He then composed himself and he told me, in no uncertain terms, that I was never to breathe a word of this to anyone. If I did, I would never work in London again, and he knew where my family lived. I felt scared and sick.”

Related: Mohamed Al Fayed: a gilded life full of controversy

Another survivor told the BBC she was raped after staying at one of Fayed’s apartments after a late shift at work. “I made it obvious that I didn’t want that to happen. I did not give consent. I just wanted it to be over,” she said.

“I remember feeling his body on me, the weight of him. Just hearing him make these noises. And just going somewhere else in my head.”

Another woman, who worked as one of Fayed’s personal assistants between 2007 and 2009, told BBC Radio 4’s Today programme she was “required” to have gynaecological tests to get the job and believed, looking back, the tests were checking for sexually transmitted infections.

She said Fayed raped her during a trip to Paris and she felt “terrified” afterwards. “In Paris, there were security guards patrolling the house, there were security guards outside the house. We were locked in a gated property. We’d been escorted there that day by the police, so I felt like I couldn’t even go to the police, even if I could make my way out of the property.”

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/mohamed-al-fayed-accuser-says-161722727.html

HAYSIE

The BBC investigation is not the first time Al Fayed’s alleged sexual misconduct has been in the spotlight. He was the subject of pieces by Vanity Fair in 1995, ITV in 1997 and Channel 4 in 2017 and 2018.

In 2009, the Crown Prosecution Service (CPS), then led by Sir Keir Starmer, elected not to prosecute Al Fayed following claims he had sexually assaulted a 15-year-old girl in Harrods. A 2015 police investigation did not lead to any charges.

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/mohammed-al-fayed-rape-harrods-095545022.html