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If I stay here I will end up in prison

DoublemeDoubleme Member Posts: 2,141
So about 15/20 minutes ago when just popping out to the local shop which happens to be near what we call NAZI PUB I had a run in with a skin head. It was just posturing and a very dirty looks and trying to act Macho to the girl he was with. There was not any physical contact made. But hate and intimidation were clear, and it was also abundantly clear that had this been several hours later when no people around it could well have resulted in him going for me physically.

Should I find myself in that situation I have to assume I am literally fighting for my life because I likely am, which means no holding back whatever I need to do to disable the threat, which could put me in prison, this is assuming I win the fight if not I am dead literally. I am no longer safe in my area I could talk about moving but where? the whole UK seems antisemetic.

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  • goldongoldon Member Posts: 9,042
    More Likely.......


  • kapowblamzkapowblamz Member Posts: 1,586
    You couldn't beat an egg.
  • DoublemeDoubleme Member Posts: 2,141
    Well this just sums it up I am not claiming to be a tough guy, maybe I lose that fight if or when it happens but then that reality is not apparent because shortly afterwards I die. The only reality I can know of long term is one where I win because if I dont I die and seize to be so wont be conscious to know another reality.

    its nice to know where most of this forum stand though it was apparent long before now should I survive to get out of this country see you guys on the front....
  • madprofmadprof Member Posts: 3,457
    Perhaps Dave? You don't fight at all...seriously violent reactions to aggressive behaviour doesn't solve anything and you just lower yourself to their level...walk away, stay a live coward(that's me btw)rather than a busted up hero
  • DoublemeDoubleme Member Posts: 2,141
    madprof said:

    Perhaps Dave? You don't fight at all...seriously violent reactions to aggressive behaviour doesn't solve anything and you just lower yourself to their level...walk away, stay a live coward(that's me btw)rather than a busted up hero

    I normally get that sort of response when I mention this sort of stuff and in principle I do not disagree.

    I mean if I lose the fight I risk been killed there and then if I win the fight I have to explain my side to the police most likely and may end up been prosecuted with jail time and a criminal record.

    Further even if I win the fight and the police investigating not only do not prosecute me but conclude it was completely fair self defence and prosecute the other side for racially aggravated assault, I still have to worry about their potential mates hunting me down for revenge which even if that never materialises I go through months of anxiety.

    It is highly probable that there is no situation resulting from the fight where I end up better off then had I avoided the fight to begin with.

    I think what you and others miss who make this point is sometimes walking away is not an option sometimes you cant escape and sometimes you cant outrun the guy or someone your with cant.

    Then what? my point is I would always avoid a fight if I can but that is not always an option and should I be put in a situation where my life is on the line I will do what is necessary to try and preserve my own life.
  • HENDRIK62HENDRIK62 Member Posts: 3,201
    @Doubleme do meet regularly with a psychiatrist, if not I think you probably should.
  • TheEdge949TheEdge949 Member Posts: 5,686
    Dave 99% of the population couldn't give a rats a55 if you're Jewish and unless you walk around naked wouldn't even know.

    You are either oversensitive to perceived threats or your body language sends wrong signals out to others.

    You have to learn how not to be intimidated and move confidently without seeming hostile or arrogant. Obsequience is not the answer either as you'll just scream victim but a defferential respect with confidence is the answer.

    Believe me, there is no place in the world that you could go where you won't experience the exact same feelings of fear and paranoia until you fix your mindset.

    There are nutters and headcases in every village, town and city you either learn to live with the reality or you hide away forever.
  • rabdenirorabdeniro Member Posts: 4,427
    Sometimes you have to draw a line, are they hardmen or kid on hardmen, if they are the latter round up some of yer mates and show them you won't be bullied, but there will always be consequences.
  • goldongoldon Member Posts: 9,042
    Scientists believe this plant is intelligent and can 'solve problems'


  • EssexphilEssexphil Member Posts: 8,765
    I have the advantage if both having been targeted for being Jewish, and of having been a Skinhead (as opposed to the Slaphead I am now)

    I was brought up in a predominantly Jewish part of London. In my teens, I used to go to Redbridge Jewish Youth Club. Simply because I lived 10 minutes' walk away, and it was the best Youth Club. Some local neo-**** (as has been said) clearly are unable to spot a Goy, and made incorrect assumptions.

    I had long hair as a teenager. As I was already starting to lose my hair, I decided to be a skinhead for a while. Where I promptly faced exactly the sort of prejudice that you clearly possess. Because (as in all walks of life) the majority are lovely people. Let down by a small minority. I found it very odd to experience exactly the sort of open hostility you clearly have towards skinheads.

    I never judge people by their religion. The colour of their skin. Or the length of their hair. Try it. Because you just might find that hostility is a 2-way street.
  • goldongoldon Member Posts: 9,042
    Give Winnie the Elbow and suck up to ......


  • goldongoldon Member Posts: 9,042
    Get the T shirt..... make a Statement.


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