A big fish ?.

rabdeniro

At the start of the UKOPS 47 £15,000 Bounty Hunter my table consisted of Tedson, Destiny Cod, Tonyp142, BRUTAS and Loololollo, for the first hour ah was getting battered, they are all likely to re - buy, I'm on a freebie and ah won't be re - buying, are they looking at me as a big fish supper ?.

Dozza

Correct.

Enut

I think if I was at that table I would have been inclined to sit out for the first hour.

JammyFker

If you feel you are going to be outplayed post flop or in general, play them a game they will not like, make pots bigger then normal, cold4 bet a lot more then you would, take any marginal spot and roll the dice to get a stack. If you constantly put yourself in tough spots they will get the better of you. You are the one on the freeroll after all!

JammyFker

rabdeniro

Think a made a erse of this hand the way ah played it, ah was chip leader on the table, how should ah have played it ....

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
grinddd	Small blind		250.00	250.00	12750.00
BRUTAS	Big blind		500.00	750.00	33050.25
	Your hole cards	J K
MikeyW94	Fold
NChanning	Fold
Tedson	Raise		1000.00	1750.00	11112.25
rabdeniro	Call		1000.00	2750.00	51840.00
grinddd	Fold
BRUTAS	Call		500.00	3250.00	32550.25
Flop
		3 K 3
BRUTAS	Check
Tedson	Bet		1000.00	4250.00	10112.25
rabdeniro	All-in		51840.00	56090.00	0.00
BRUTAS	All-in		32550.25	88640.25	0.00
Tedson	All-in		10112.25	98752.50	0.00
rabdeniro	Unmatched bet		19289.75	79462.75	19289.75
BRUTAS	Show	K Q
Tedson	Show	A Q
rabdeniro	Show	J K
Turn
		8
River
		6
BRUTAS	Win	Two Pairs, Kings and 3s	79462.75		79462.75

madprof

You can't do anything much different , surely?You've shoved to try to isolate one or the other and

You've got a good kicker!

He just had a better one...unlucky and you still had chips left so...

MynaFrett

Multi way spots are tricky at the best of times but this one is complicated by the fact that the BB (BRUTAS) has some combinations of trips in his range already which Tedson and yourself never have. Tedson also has the advantage with hands like AA/KK/AK. I'm not sure what a solver would say about playing this spot in a single raised pot 3 ways (K33 2 tone SRP CO/BTN/BB) but it wouldn't surprise me if you have very few raises here and are playing mostly call or fold on this board in position. It's a 'dry flop'. There is no connectivity on these one high two low paired flops - the flush draw isn't enough to make it a 'wet flop'. If it was say K43 two-tone instead then that is immediately a different situation because there will be connection/interaction around more of the BB flatting range and also more of the suited aces in Tedson's and your own range. On the K33 two clubs though, when you just call instead, the Jc in your hand serves a dual purpose of giving you a bit of protection on club turns as it takes some flushes out of your opponents range and sometimes a bit more equity against a hand like AdKd in Tedson's range, for example. When you have KsJc specifically here you are reducing a not insignificant amount of potential flush draws from your opponents ranges (front door with the Jc and backdoor with the Ks) so when you decide to fast play this one so aggressively on the flop you make it more likely that you are potentially in rough shape when called, especially 3 way.
I think it's also worth saying don't get sucked in by these small c bets by good players on these boards (or in general). Tedson's size is completely standard here (in fact he can probably go smaller) it doesn't represent where he is in his range. He shows up with AcQc this time but he could equally have AA/KK/AK/A3s/QsJs/Qs9s/JsTs... if you saw any of those hands (or the entirety of his range as a whole) how would you respond vs his c bet? Try not to just think about the few combinations of hands you are currently ahead of AND can get 'value/protection' from but think about how both players respond with their entire ranges vs your shove and what your range looks like and the hands you can have as well.
If you just call Tedson, BRUTAS raises/shoves and Tedson calls/raises you have an easy fold and retain your stack for a better spot. Sure if BRUTAS doesn't wake up with KQ (or trips) you run it against Tedson's flush draws sometimes or he might decide he's not bet-folding some combinations of underpairs but I don't feel that's enough to justify shoving this KsJc here.

madprof

That's what I said/meant 🤪

rabdeniro

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MynaFrett said:

Multi way spots are tricky at the best of times but this one is complicated by the fact that the BB (BRUTAS) has some combinations of trips in his range already which Tedson and yourself never have. Tedson also has the advantage with hands like AA/KK/AK. I'm not sure what a solver would say about playing this spot in a single raised pot 3 ways (K33 2 tone SRP CO/BTN/BB) but it wouldn't surprise me if you have very few raises here and are playing mostly call or fold on this board in position. It's a 'dry flop'. There is no connectivity on these one high two low paired flops - the flush draw isn't enough to make it a 'wet flop'. If it was say K43 two-tone instead then that is immediately a different situation because there will be connection/interaction around more of the BB flatting range and also more of the suited aces in Tedson's and your own range. On the K33 two clubs though, when you just call instead, the Jc in your hand serves a dual purpose of giving you a bit of protection on club turns as it takes some flushes out of your opponents range and sometimes a bit more equity against a hand like AdKd in Tedson's range, for example. When you have KsJc specifically here you are reducing a not insignificant amount of potential flush draws from your opponents ranges (front door with the Jc and backdoor with the Ks) so when you decide to fast play this one so aggressively on the flop you make it more likely that you are potentially in rough shape when called, especially 3 way.
I think it's also worth saying don't get sucked in by these small c bets by good players on these boards (or in general). Tedson's size is completely standard here (in fact he can probably go smaller) it doesn't represent where he is in his range. He shows up with AcQc this time but he could equally have AA/KK/AK/A3s/QsJs/Qs9s/JsTs... if you saw any of those hands (or the entirety of his range as a whole) how would you respond vs his c bet? Try not to just think about the few combinations of hands you are currently ahead of AND can get 'value/protection' from but think about how both players respond with their entire ranges vs your shove and what your range looks like and the hands you can have as well.
If you just call Tedson, BRUTAS raises/shoves and Tedson calls/raises you have an easy fold and retain your stack for a better spot. Sure if BRUTAS doesn't wake up with KQ (or trips) you run it against Tedson's flush draws sometimes or he might decide he's not bet-folding some combinations of underpairs but I don't feel that's enough to justify shoving this KsJc here.

Thanks for the breakdown.
Ah think a was too hasty going all in but ah felt BRUTAS was playing a lot of hands so ah was trying to get him to fold, the re-buy had finished and thought he would only go all-in with a really good hand.
The time clock between hands disnae give you much time so ah think ah rushed maself into the all-in.