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When does winter start ?.

rabdenirorabdeniro Member Posts: 4,459
For me winter starts in November, always has, but reading a few things today the Met office says 1st December, does that mean this is still Autumn ?, not for me, Autumn ends in October.
Then you have the punters with the hooded cloaks and pendants saying it's the 21st of December.
Is auld age getting to me or have ah been wrong all ma days ?.

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  • ToffeeandyToffeeandy Member Posts: 934
    Winter = December, January, February
    Spring = March, April, May
    Summer = June, July, August
    Autumn = September, October, November

    Or something like that :)
  • goldongoldon Member Posts: 9,141
    Forget Date & Time. Litmus test.

    Peeing Rain Spring....Hot very Hot Summer ... Warm very mild Autumn.... Cold jacket on Freezing nips Winter.
  • lucy4lucy4 Member Posts: 8,109
    When is the official start of winter?

    There are two common ways to define seasons in the UK - meteorological and astronomical.

    BBC Weather uses the meteorological calendar, where winter always begins on 1 December and ends on the last day of February.

    Meteorologists use three-month periods to define the seasons. This makes year-on-year comparisons easier. Winter is therefore defined in the northern hemisphere as the three coldest months - December, January and February.

    By comparison, in the astronomical calendar, winter always starts at the winter solstice - or shortest day.

    This year, astronomical winter in the northern hemisphere begins on 21 December and ends on 20 March 2025.

    There is a third definition used in some parts of the UK, particularly Northern Ireland: in the ancient Celtic calendar, also known as the Gaelic or Irish calendar, winter starts on 1 November.
  • lucy4lucy4 Member Posts: 8,109
  • EssexphilEssexphil Member Posts: 8,845
    The French believe that the UK has just 2 seasons:-

    1. 6 months of terrible weather; followed by
    2. 6 months of Winter

    They are only jealous because they don't get drizzle....
  • JammyFkerJammyFker Member Posts: 427
    Seasons in the Celtic calendar are grouped into three full months:

    Autumn - August, September, October

    Winter - November, December, January

    Spring - February, March, April

    Summer - May, June, July

    "This goes back millennia" said Críostoír Mac Cárthaigh from the National Folklore Collection at University College Dublin.

    "I think it's very much tied to the agricultural year. For instance, Halloween was the traditional end of harvest - when all the crops would be harvested and the animals were brought in," he said.

    "So, the 1 November marks the beginning of winter, or the dark period of the year.

    The Irish months also point to the old calendar.

    "Meán Fómhair - or September - can be translated as the middle of harvest, or the middle of autumn. Márta - or March - can also be translated as the middle of spring," said Mr Mac Cárthaigh. B)
  • rabdenirorabdeniro Member Posts: 4,459
    That's what an must be thinking, but ah don't like this Celtic connection, :# .
  • EssexphilEssexphil Member Posts: 8,845
    edited November 23
    There are lots of ways of calculating this.

    The Celtic calendar referred to harks back to a time when Farmers really did rule the World. Because that Calendar centres around when days are longest, whereas today we tend to think Seasons are weather-based, as opposed to when light was longest or the crop seasons.

    Longest day/shortest day are in June/December. So from an astrological or Farmer's point of view, Winter is Nov/Dec/Jan etc.

    But these days 99% of us are not involved with the Land. And we think of seasons in terms of weather and temperature. Which is why ordinary people and weathermen think that Dec/Jan/Feb is Winter. Simply because that is when temperatures are at their lowest.

    Who thinks February is in Spring? Or August in Autumn?
  • rabdenirorabdeniro Member Posts: 4,459
    Up here it's usually 8 months Winter, and 2 months Spring, 2 months Autumn if we are lucky.
  • lucy4lucy4 Member Posts: 8,109


    **** that said @Doubleme I'm not risking going to that Nazi pub, let's stay in and watch the rain...
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