New-Call, Raise, Shove, Or Fold.

HAYSIE

Its the main.
10,000 starting stacks.
Just after the break, around 10.03.
Blinds 1,000/2,000.
Table is 5 handed.

The players.
UTG-empty
Hijack-loosecamel
Cutoff-Gez_bear
Button-miniraise
SB-JPDERRY
BB-HAYSIE

Stacks, after the blinds
Hijack 24,260
Cutoff 13,410
Button 69,360
SB 105,618
BB. 44,480

You are in the BB with QQ

The betting.

Hijack folds.
Cutoff bets 6,000.
Button raises to 20,000- leaving 49,360 behind
SB calls for 19,000, after SB, leaving 86,618 behind.
You are BB

Call, raise, shove or fold?

MynaFrett

Trying to figure out if I'm missing something because it looks like a simple get in to be honest. 5 handed in a bounty hunter, 22bb with QQ vs a BTN isolating a CO open from a 7bb stack. The SB cold call does complicate things a bit. It does potentially look strong/trappy. It's difficult to put them on a range - could be AA, could also be JJ-66, suited aces, suited broadways. Don't know what to make of it but people do seem to want to get involved too wide here covering both players with the added advantage that the opener can only be all-in and can't re-open the action.
Late reg has closed, it is no longer early game and there is now no re-entry so the tournament has moved from the early gamble for bounties stage into the first phase of a bounty hunter tournament where ICM starts to come into play and the value of going deeper into the tournament becomes more of a factor (ICM isn't just for money bubbles and FT's, even in bounty hunters it is present and escalates as more of the field busts). That said, QQ still looks way too strong to fold here even if it was an extremely ICM heavy scenario, which this certainly isn't, so I'd just be all-in.
I suppose it is possible that miniraise puts a third of their stack in and folds to your shove but highly unlikely given the pot odds and especially assuming the opener is always all-in as well regardless. Assuming the SB isn't trapping/inducing with AA/KK it would also be interesting to know how wide they get it in 4 ways for three bounties at this stage of the tournament...

JammyFker

Shove

HAYSIE

This was at 10.03 pm.
I think it was the first time in my life I had folded QQ.
Looking purely at the betting, I though I was probably behind, or at best flipping.
This was part of my effort to be less reckless.

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
JPDERRY	Small blind		1000.00	1000.00	105618.75
HAYSIE	Big blind		2000.00	3000.00	44480.00
	Your hole cards	Q Q
loosecamel	Fold
gez_bear	Raise		6000.00	9000.00	13410.00
miniraise	Raise		20000.00	29000.00	49360.00
JPDERRY	Call		19000.00	48000.00	86618.75
HAYSIE	Fold
gez_bear	All-in		13410.00	61410.00	0.00
Flop
		J 7 5
JPDERRY	Check
miniraise	Check
Turn
		6
JPDERRY	Check
miniraise	Check
River
		A
JPDERRY	Check
miniraise	Check
JPDERRY	Show	8 8
gez_bear	Show	K J
miniraise	Muck	2 2
gez_bear	Win	Pair of Jacks	60230.00		60230.00
JPDERRY	Win	Pair of 8s	1180.00		87798.75

HAYSIE

This was at 10.05pm, and 5 hands later.
Obviously folding the QQ was disappointing.
And this didnt help.

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
JPDERRY	Small blind		1250.00	1250.00	79048.75
HAYSIE	Big blind		2500.00	3750.00	40730.00
	Your hole cards	Q K
loosecamel	Fold
gez_bear	Fold
miniraise	Raise		5000.00	8750.00	44360.00
JPDERRY	Call		3750.00	12500.00	75298.75
HAYSIE	Call		2500.00	15000.00	38230.00
Flop
		K 2 5
JPDERRY	Check
HAYSIE	Check
miniraise	Bet		10000.00	25000.00	34360.00
JPDERRY	Fold
HAYSIE	All-in		38230.00	63230.00	0.00
miniraise	All-in		34360.00	97590.00	0.00
miniraise	Unmatched bet		6130.00	91460.00	6130.00
HAYSIE	Show	Q K
miniraise	Show	K J
Turn
		Q
River
		5
miniraise	Win	Flush to the King	91460.00		97590.00

Bean81

If you're not on the stone bubble, folding QQ seems way too nitty.

KQ would be fine as an iso jam pre IMO. Seems fine as played against that sizing.

Asho28

Agree with the above comments. Definitely getting QQ in myself. Occasionally we'll run into it but simply too good to fold for 23 BBs.

Am also shoving the KQ spot. Small Blind range should be pretty capped when they call and button will likely be opening with a wide range. Even when called we can often be flipping. As played though, just unlucky.

HAYSIE

Asho28 said:

Agree with the above comments. Definitely getting QQ in myself. Occasionally we'll run into it but simply too good to fold for 23 BBs.

Am also shoving the KQ spot. Small Blind range should be pretty capped when they call and button will likely be opening with a wide range. Even when called we can often be flipping. As played though, just unlucky.

I would dispute any of the comments that have been made.
I accept that I should have shoved with the QQ.
I only posted the second hand, because I went out with it 2 minutes later, which made folding the QQ more annoying.