this is why you should never bluff in omaha.

Dozza

UGLYN	Small blind		10.00	10.00	3990.00
Oz248	Big blind		20.00	30.00	3980.00
	Your hole cards	10 10 6 5
gvb708	Raise		40.00	70.00	3960.00
IRISH31	Call		40.00	110.00	3960.00
alvarez03	Raise		60.00	170.00	3940.00
Dozza	Raise		80.00	250.00	3920.00
UGLYN	Call		70.00	320.00	3920.00
Oz248	Call		60.00	380.00	3920.00
gvb708	Call		40.00	420.00	3920.00
IRISH31	Call		40.00	460.00	3920.00
alvarez03	Raise		40.00	500.00	3900.00
Dozza	Raise		40.00	540.00	3880.00
UGLYN	Call		40.00	580.00	3880.00
Oz248	Call		40.00	620.00	3880.00
gvb708	Call		40.00	660.00	3880.00
IRISH31	Call		40.00	700.00	3880.00
alvarez03	Raise		560.00	1260.00	3340.00
Dozza	Call		540.00	1800.00	3340.00
UGLYN	Fold
Oz248	Call		540.00	2340.00	3340.00
gvb708	Fold
IRISH31	Call		540.00	2880.00	3340.00
Flop
		9 3 K
Oz248	Check
IRISH31	Check
alvarez03	Check
Dozza	Check
Turn
		9
Oz248	Check
IRISH31	Check
alvarez03	Check
Dozza	Check
River
		9
Oz248	Bet		220.00	3100.00	3120.00
IRISH31	Call		220.00	3320.00	3120.00
alvarez03	Call		220.00	3540.00	3120.00
Dozza	All-in		3340.00	6880.00	0.00
Oz248	Fold
IRISH31	Fold
alvarez03	All-in		3120.00	10000.00	0.00
alvarez03	Show	A 2 A 8
Dozza	Show	10 10 6 5
alvarez03	Win	Full House, 9s and Aces	10000.00		10000.00

Talon

  I think the problem in this hand is not the bluff but the decision you made early on. Preflop you had a marginal to weak hand and instead of folding or trying to get in cheap you put in a very weak 3-bet.You then called a 4-bet when you should also have folded. The pot was then so juicy that you felt compelled to bluff at it. Bluffing in omaha is never really a good idea but this hand is not really about that it is more about the overplaying of really bad hands and getting yourself into trouble because of it. Your opponent had a reasonably good hand that he was overplaying as well. These are common mistakes made by newcomers to the game. There is no hand so good as to be 3 or 4 betting preflop. The hands are defined from the flop onwards so my advice is if you are going to play these marginal hands then get to the flop cheaply and reassess then.

Norbit

lol at all the pre flop raising!

Tikay10

That Post by Talon, especially the last three sentences, contains some of the best Omaha advice you will ever see.

This is NOT Texas, Omaha is a completely different game, & pre-flop shennanigans won't work. See the Flop, then re-assess. And remember, you will catch  bit of most Flops. And so will your oppo. If you must bluff, wait until the Turn or River.

Dozza

i had a pair and was double-suited. it looked like a nice starting hand at the time.

Dozza

thanks for the post Talon, i take it all on board.

Tikay10

In Response to Re: this is why you should never bluff in omaha.:

i had a pair and was double-suited. it looked like a nice starting hand at the time.
Posted by Dozza

Hi Dozza,

It's certainly not a "good" starting hand, but if you are in the Blinds, yes, worth a look.

You have, really, 4 "potential" hands there, but not any real "nut draws".

1) A set of 10's. But that's  2 outer. (One pair is NEVER any good).

2 & 3) The 2 flush draws. But if it's multiway, & the pot gets big, do you really fancy calling down with either of those two flushes?

4 ) The 6-5, a a straight draw - ONLY any good for the TOP end of a str8, so we need a 2-3-4 sorta flop. 

It's not the worst starting hand I've ever seen, but it's really not one I'd to go to war with.

Llamaman

Looks like you accidently registered for the wrong tournament and was just messing about... i hope...

Unknown

This ranks as possibly one of the worst played hands I have ever seen in any form of poker, and I have played high stake Telesina before!

Dozza

In Response to Re: this is why you should never bluff in omaha.:

In Response to Re: this is why you should never bluff in omaha. : Hi Dozza, It's certainly not a "good" starting hand, but if you are in the Blinds, yes, worth a look. You have, really, 4 "potential" hands there, but not any real "nut draws". 1) A set of 10's. But that's  2 outer. (One pair is NEVER any good). 2 & 3) The 2 flush draws. But if it's multiway, & the pot gets big, do you really fancy calling down with either of those two flushes? 4 ) The 6-5, a a straight draw - ONLY any good for the TOP end of a str8, so we need a 2-3-4 sorta flop.  It's not the worst starting hand I've ever seen, but it's really not one I'd to go to war with.
Posted by Tikay10

Cheers Tikay, from now on i'm only playing hands which have the possibility of making the nuts down future streets. I'll give Omaha another go soon. :-)

BULL

In Response to Re: this is why you should never bluff in omaha.:

That Post by Talon, especially the last three sentences, contains some of the best Omaha advice you will ever see. This is NOT Texas, Omaha is a completely different game, & pre-flop shennanigans won't work. See the Flop, then re-assess. And remember, you will catch  bit of most Flops. And so will your oppo. If you must bluff, wait until the Turn or River.
Posted by Tikay10

IM LOST FOR WORDS... its plain to see "omg" omaha ,dont yer just love it ;p