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Is this 2 tight

Ozzie08Ozzie08 Member Posts: 963
edited May 2010 in The Poker Clinic
Hi guys, just played this hand, had a couple of 3 bets with villian and all round the tb has been lively with lots of action pre flop, leading up to this hand.

Would be intersted in your thoughts here, i make a  re raise on initial better after flop and then get re popped by the villian. Is this a snap all in?. I fold my pretty AA convinced im behind



Is this 2 tight? thanx for your replies
PERRAZI Small blind  £0.20 £0.20 £139.38
dylan12 Big blind  £0.40 £0.60 £71.43
  Your hole cards
  • A
  • A
     
Ozzie08 Raise  £1.20 £1.80 £60.88
DOHHHHHHH Fold     
 xxxxxxxCall  £1.20 £3.00 £61.72
PERRAZI Call  £1.00 £4.00 £138.38
dylan12 Fold     
Flop
   
  • 5
  • 7
  • J
     
PERRAZI Bet  £3.00 £7.00 £135.38
Ozzie08 Raise  £8.00 £15.00 £52.88
xxxxxx Raise  £31.00 £46.00 £30.72
PERRAZI Fold     
Ozzie08 Fold     
xxxxxxMuck     
xxxxxxWin  £44.85  £75.57

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    Strat91Strat91 Member Posts: 112
    edited May 2010
    In Response to Is this 2 tight:
    Hi guys, just played this hand, had a couple of 3 bets with villian and all round the tb has been lively with lots of action pre flop, leading up to this hand. Would be intersted in your thoughts here, i make a  re raise on initial better after flop and then get re popped by the villian. Is this a snap all in?. I fold my pretty AA convinced im behind Is this 2 tight? thanx for your replies PERRAZI Small blind   £0.20 £0.20 £139.38 dylan12 Big blind   £0.40 £0.60 £71.43   Your hole cards A A       Ozzie08 Raise   £1.20 £1.80 £60.88 DOHHHHHHH Fold          xxxxxxx Call   £1.20 £3.00 £61.72 PERRAZI Call   £1.00 £4.00 £138.38 dylan12 Fold         Flop     5 7 J       PERRAZI Bet   £3.00 £7.00 £135.38 Ozzie08 Raise   £8.00 £15.00 £52.88 xxxxxx  Raise   £31.00 £46.00 £30.72 PERRAZI Fold         Ozzie08 Fold         xxxxxx Muck         xxxxxx Win   £44.85   £75.57
    Posted by Ozzie08
    I cant see how your ever ahead in this situation even though hard to put him on a hand unless hes 4 bet bluffing which I dont know if hes capable of. 55 77 JJ J7 and 75 all beat you. Your fold was right.
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    lynx3ffectlynx3ffect Member Posts: 452
    edited May 2010
    in a word, yep. im going broke every time unless i have a read he is supernit

    if u have a bit of history too, this makes it even more likely ur ahead, he does this with any J, maybe air, maybe TT, maybe he slowplayed qq, too many hands u beat and 2p is so unlikely

    shud be a fistpump shove
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    Strat91Strat91 Member Posts: 112
    edited May 2010
    In Response to Re: Is this 2 tight:
    in a word, yep. im going broke every time unless i have a read he is supernit if u have a bit of history too, this makes it even more likely ur ahead, he does this with any J, maybe air, maybe TT, maybe he slowplayed qq, too many hands u beat and 2p is so unlikely shud be a fistpump shove
    Posted by lynx3ffect
    Are you kidding? Why would he 4 bet and commit his stack with any J or TT?

    The way I see it your either beat or hes doing this with air. And hes rarely doing this with air.
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    CLIOKIDCLIOKID Member Posts: 783
    edited May 2010
    In Response to Re: Is this 2 tight:
    In Response to Re: Is this 2 tight : Are you kidding? Why would he 4 bet and commit his stack with any J or TT? The way I see it your either beat or hes doing this with air. And hes rarely doing this with air.
    Posted by Strat91
    Does the fact his play looks so strong not mean that he COULD do it with a J knowing that it's hard call for an overpair to make?
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    lynx3ffectlynx3ffect Member Posts: 452
    edited May 2010
    i wouldnt raise flop anyway, probably call call call as you arent afraid of any draws for max value

     long term calling the AI is profitable i think
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    Strat91Strat91 Member Posts: 112
    edited May 2010
    In Response to Re: Is this 2 tight:
    In Response to Re: Is this 2 tight : Does the fact his play looks so strong not mean that he COULD do it with a J knowing that it's hard call for an overpair to make?
    Posted by CLIOKID
    It's a possibility. I like your thought.
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    CowgomooCowgomoo Member Posts: 749
    edited May 2010
    Just ship it in.
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    lynx3ffectlynx3ffect Member Posts: 452
    edited May 2010
    In Response to Re: Is this 2 tight:
    In Response to Re: Is this 2 tight : Does the fact his play looks so strong not mean that he COULD do it with a J knowing that it's hard call for an overpair to make?
    Posted by CLIOKID
    i think the raise to 8 by us on flop looks weak too so hes more likely to shove over
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    lynx3ffectlynx3ffect Member Posts: 452
    edited May 2010
    In Response to Re: Is this 2 tight:
    In Response to Is this 2 tight : I cant see how your ever ahead in this situation even though hard to put him on a hand unless hes 4 bet bluffing which I dont know if hes capable of. 55 77 JJ J7 and 75 all beat you. Your fold was right.
    Posted by Strat91
    i dont see him 4 betting a set on that board - its a giant 4 bet that screams dont call
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    BlackFish3BlackFish3 Member Posts: 2,418
    edited May 2010
    I get it in here. If you lose a stack you lose a stack... your equity wont even be too bad against 2 pair.
    Your really only worried about 55 and 77. He could easily have a big jack.
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    DOHHHHHHHDOHHHHHHH Member Posts: 17,927
    edited May 2010


    YES IT IS :)
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    zingzing Member Posts: 333
    edited May 2010
    don't fold
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    Ozzie08Ozzie08 Member Posts: 963
    edited May 2010
    Ok thnx guys not a very gd play by myself

    At the time it felt like a fold but after lots of chats i see this is a bad fold

    thnx for your time    ozzie
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    BrownnDogBrownnDog Member Posts: 729
    edited May 2010
    I'm all in man I got the ace and jack, the ace of diamonds and I ain't holding back.
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    Strat91Strat91 Member Posts: 112
    edited May 2010
    In Response to Re: Is this 2 tight:
    I'm  all in man I got the ace and jack, the ace of diamonds and I ain't holding back.
    Posted by BrownnDog
    I want this as my ringtone, anyone know where I can get it?
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    dylan12dylan12 Member Posts: 2,343
    edited May 2010

    I ship it Oz - I reckon he had QJ or something like that

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    scrumdownscrumdown Member Posts: 1,609
    edited May 2010
    u must have put him on a set oz  i think had aj or kj should pushed all in m8
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