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ROYAL FLUSH - Did I get maximum value

Red_KingRed_King Member Posts: 2,850
edited May 2010 in The Poker Clinic
This hand in Omaha STT,
Aggressor 4 bets, 2 callers to the flop,
Aggressor bets half the pot,
I just call with straight & nut flush draws with one player behind, who calls,
I hit the nut flush and check, expecting a bet behind, both check,
I improve to the Royal Flush put in a pot bet, 1 caller, initial aggressor folds.

Could I have bet differently to increase final pot value without losing customers?

Hand History #256434911 (19:53 05/05/2010)

PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
Red_King Small blind  25.00 25.00 2395.00
Clapper Big blind  50.00 75.00 445.00
  Your hole cards
  • 5
  • Q
  • A
  • 10
     
skinsman Fold     
ChubChaser Call  50.00 125.00 4645.00
BAZLMAC Raise  200.00 325.00 2345.00
Red_King Call  175.00 500.00 2220.00
Clapper Fold     
ChubChaser Call  150.00 650.00 4495.00
Flop
   
  • K
  • 3
  • 10
     
Red_King Check     
ChubChaser Check     
BAZLMAC Bet  325.00 975.00 2020.00
Red_King Call  325.00 1300.00 1895.00
ChubChaser Call  325.00 1625.00 4170.00
Turn
   
  • J
     
Red_King Check     
ChubChaser Check     
BAZLMAC Check     
River
   
  • 10
     
Red_King Bet  1625.00 3250.00 270.00
ChubChaser Call  1625.00 4875.00 2545.00
BAZLMAC Fold     
Red_King Show
  • 5
  • Q
  • A
  • 10
   
ChubChaser Show
  • 2
  • 7
  • K
  • Q
   
Red_King Win Royal Flush 4875.00  5145.00

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    CowgomooCowgomoo Member Posts: 749
    edited May 2010
    I'm not much of an omaha player at all, but I would say checking the turn and giving opponents free cards to catch up is going to cost you alot of times.
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    mr_mbromr_mbro Member Posts: 1,152
    edited May 2010
    Hi Red King,

    Firstly, i would say why were you calling such a raise(out of position) with that hand, which in Omaha is not that good of a starting hand.
    Secondly, yes you did get the most out of it. In my opinion, your opponent should have folded his hand to your bet. Why, well even after the turn if you had any pair of clubs over the 7 he was beaten. I understand your comment about your hand but you only had the nut flush draw AFTER the flop, you were behind to any pair(pre flop), as you know and you could have got into a lot of trouble if your opponent had 33 or KK and you had not hit your miracle card on the river.
    In the end you got an extra 1600 chips that you wouldnt normally get form the more recognised players(apologies to your opponent).

    col
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    Red_KingRed_King Member Posts: 2,850
    edited May 2010

    Thanks for the comments, Cowgomoo & mr_mbro, much appreciated.

    Cowgomoo, I deliberately checked the turn having hit the nut flush, to get info on others strength,
    I fully expected the aggressor to bet out, the size of bet indicating their possible hand strength,
    when both checked I felt I was good to shove all-in if the board didn't pair, faking a weaker hand,
    the river paired the board giving possible FH, to my RF, so I just pot bet hoping for a re-raise.

    mr_mbro, The reason for the call was, aggressor was only playing hands by raising 2x or 3x,
    I figured 4x due to button and one caller, I also expected original caller to come along.
    After flop I've flush and straight draws, plus 2nd pair with over cards, I'm not betting if turn misses.
    Unfortunately aggressor folded so don't know if he was just being over aggressive or with two pair, poss K3.

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