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mid-stage of MTT: would you bet for value, or go for gold??

annie_dukeannie_duke Member Posts: 545
edited May 2010 in The Poker Clinic
X
 Small blind   200.00 200.00 13260.00
annie_duke Big blind   400.00 600.00 11285.00
  Your hole cards
  • 6
  • 5
     
patlamb Fold        
rabbit263 Fold        
norton01 Fold        
AKQ_Hearts Fold        
X Call   200.00 800.00 13060.00
annie_duke Check        
Flop
   
  • 5
  • 5
  • 10
     
X Bet   400.00 1200.00 12660.00
annie_duke Call   400.00 1600.00 10885.00
Turn
   
  • 3
     
X
 Bet   400.00 2000.00 12260.00
annie_duke Raise   800.00 2800.00 10085.00
X
 Call   400.00 3200.00 11860.00
River
   
  • 5
     
X Check        
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  • annie_dukeannie_duke Member Posts: 545
    edited May 2010
    i'll tell you what I did later (if anyones interested....)

    but what would you have done?

    tx, annie
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  • DOHHHHHHHDOHHHHHHH Member Posts: 17,929
    edited May 2010
    Theyre calling with a 10 or overpair.....

    I they call a V bet, theyre gonna call an all in...

    Ur min raise on the turn looks super strong tho.....

    I would still overbet in cash, not clued up on MTT strategy but id probably do the same there too.....
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  • robcrobc Member Posts: 521
    edited May 2010
    he has to have either nothing or a house with the 10 or overpair.

    so no point in a small value bet as if he has nothing he is folding and if he has the house especially with a overpair he is calling a overbet so got to be at least 4k imo hoping he shoves withs a overpair.


    I dont no if all in would be a good move??? would a 10 fold hear from a all in shove?
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  • GREGHOGGGREGHOGG Member Posts: 7,155
    edited May 2010
    in this situation i go for gold

    probably all in

    and he probably calls
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  • dylan12dylan12 Member Posts: 2,343
    edited May 2010

    Agree with DOH - the turn min looks super strong!!

    Also agree with DOH when he says if he is calling a v bet then he's calling an all in - the same as Greg says go for Gold!!
    You must have put him on at least a 10 so why not go all in - no way you have JJ QQ KK AA so why wouldn't he call - unless he puts you on the 5 after your min raise on the turn.

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  • goodylad21goodylad21 Member Posts: 693
    edited May 2010
    I think the villain has got balls all, though im probably miles out.

    If the villain had a hand surely he would of lead out after the river to get value.

    But im guessing he must have something decent or why post the hand ???

    I would definately SHOVE !
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  • DeuceAK_47DeuceAK_47 Member Posts: 381
    edited May 2010
    Probably just pot the river but i guess it depends how good you think the villian is. (as a overbet all-in is usually always the nuts)

    If it was me i would of raised the flop to 1000, pot the turn leaves a slightly less than pot river shove.....easy game
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  • ajs4385ajs4385 Member Posts: 455
    edited May 2010

    Easy all in

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  • annie_dukeannie_duke Member Posts: 545
    edited May 2010
    ok, so it seems the popular option is the all-in...cheers me up a bit for not getting any value!

    I just figured if he has a 10 he's calling anything, can't imagine he was good enough to fold a 10...but I ended up with nowt :(
    X Small blind   200.00 200.00 13260.00
    annie_duke Big blind   400.00 600.00 11285.00
      Your hole cards
    • 6
    • 5
    		     
    patlamb Fold        
    rabbit263 Fold        
    norton01 Fold        
    AKQ_Hearts Fold        
    X
    		 Call   200.00 800.00 13060.00
    annie_duke Check        
    Flop
       
    • 5
    • 5
    • 10
    		     
    X
    		 Bet   400.00 1200.00 12660.00
    annie_duke Call   400.00 1600.00 10885.00
    Turn
       
    • 3
    		     
    X
    		 Bet   400.00 2000.00 12260.00
    annie_duke Raise   800.00 2800.00 10085.00
    X
    		 Call   400.00 3200.00 11860.00
    River
       
    • 5
    		     
    X Check        
    annie_duke All-in   10085.00 13285.00 0.00
    X
    		 Fold        
    annie_duke Muck        
    annie_duke Win   13285.00   13285.00
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  • WilhelmWilhelm Member Posts: 1,730
    edited May 2010
    In Response to Re: mid-stage of MTT: would you bet for value, or go for gold??:
    ok , so it seems the popular option is the all-in...cheers me up a bit for not getting any value! I just figured if he has a 10 he's calling anything, can't imagine he was good enough to fold a 10...but I ended up with nowt :( X Small blind   200.00 200.00 13260.00 annie_duke Big blind   400.00 600.00 11285.00   Your hole cards 6 5       patlamb Fold         rabbit263 Fold         norton01 Fold         AKQ_Hearts Fold         X Call   200.00 800.00 13060.00 annie_duke Check         Flop     5 5 10       X Bet   400.00 1200.00 12660.00 annie_duke Call   400.00 1600.00 10885.00 Turn     3       X Bet   400.00 2000.00 12260.00 annie_duke Raise   800.00 2800.00 10085.00 X Call   400.00 3200.00 11860.00 River     5       X Check         annie_duke All-in   10085.00 13285.00 0.00 X Fold         annie_duke Muck         annie_duke Win   13285.00   13285.00
    Posted by annie_duke
    Meh, I fold my 10 there.  All I can beat is a bluff, and I don't think your'e bluffing.  There's no point in shoving the river if you are bluffing, you would just put in something like 2/3 of the pot, so imo you are forced to have at the very least an overpair to the board.  But then again, I can see your cards...
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