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HI/LO OMAHA CASH GAMES / THIS RAKE IS KILLING ME!

IRISHROVERIRISHROVER Member Posts: 7,606
edited May 2010 in Poker Chat


  AS IT SAYS ON THE TIN .

  KILLING  ME THIS RAKE .

  I LOVE THE CASH GAME ,

  BUT THE RAKE  ON THESE CASH GAMES MUST BE MAKING SKYPOKER AT LEAST

  4 TIMES MORE RAKE THEN A NORMAL HOLDEM CASH GAME .

  SO MUCH ACTION WITH THE HIGH HAND AND 8 BELOW [ LOW HAND ]  ALSO WINNING .

  SO IS IT JUST ME THAT FEELS THIS WAY ?
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  • BlackFish3BlackFish3 Member Posts: 2,418
    edited May 2010
    ive nvr played hi/lo but a load of pots are chopped right? so surely its like really difficult to beat the rake??
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  • oynutteroynutter Member Posts: 4,773
    edited May 2010
    you should see the flopwit stupid heads up cash games-- two people sit down with 20 quid each--- 10 minutes later theres only 30 quid left on the table!!--20 minutes later they only have a tenner each--whats the flupwit point of playing these games at all is what I'd like to know---- fikkies imo!!
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  • dylan12dylan12 Member Posts: 2,343
    edited May 2010
    Irish I think I love you :)

    This has been the only criticism that I have with the game - tbh I don't fully understand the game - but I do understand the rake will kill you - surely at the higher level this is even worse - I was frustrated and it was only 2p/4p lol

    Great thread once again Den!!
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  • 35suited35suited Member Posts: 2,332
    edited May 2010
    ive been playing 2p/4p and totally agree the rake was killing me, had one of the winning hands most times i got involved but because someone else had the other was winning but losing every pot.

    I then went and played 10p/20p only sat down with £8 as its out of my bankroll (sorry know how much you guys hate that) played for around an hour and really didnt notice the rake so much for some reason, maybe it was just because i had a winning session stood with about £26, it just really stood out to me more on the lower stakes
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  • MachkaMachka Member Posts: 4,627
    edited May 2010
    Try not to get involved in pots where it's likely you will split or even quarter.
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  • huuuuumehuuuuume Member Posts: 569
    edited May 2010
    would love the rake to be lower for omaha hi/lo please

    any chance?
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  • MrFloppy1MrFloppy1 Member Posts: 2
    edited May 2010
    In Response to Re: HI/LO OMAHA CASH GAMES / THIS RAKE IS KILLING ME!:
    would love the rake to be lower for omaha hi/lo please any chance?
    Posted by huuuuume
    The rake should obviously be halved if there is a split-pot as full rake makes the game nigh on unbeatable
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  • MADMOOMADMOO Member Posts: 1,687
    edited May 2010

    I agree IRISHROVER, played for the first time 2/4p yesterday and was very surprised how much rake was taken.
    I enjoyed the game but wont be playing too much of it while the rake remains like this.

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  • J-HartiganJ-Hartigan Member Posts: 2,756
    edited May 2010
    In Response to Re: HI/LO OMAHA CASH GAMES / THIS RAKE IS KILLING ME!:
    Try not to get involved in pots where it's likely you will split or even quarter.
    Posted by Machka
    Aaron is talking complete sense.  For once :-)

    You should be playing to scoop the pot.  Don't play for half, unless you're in a multi-way pot and confident that you're guaranteed 50% of what's in the middle (i.e. you have the nut high / low hand).

    I've played O8 live in Vegas - where the rake is 10%!  You can only make a profit in this game if you play to win the high hand AND the low hand.

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  • MereNoviceMereNovice Member Posts: 4,364
    edited May 2010
    In Response to Re: HI/LO OMAHA CASH GAMES / THIS RAKE IS KILLING ME!:
    In Response to Re: HI/LO OMAHA CASH GAMES / THIS RAKE IS KILLING ME! : Aaron is talking complete sense.  For once :-) You should be playing to scoop the pot.  Don't play for half, unless you're in a multi-way pot and confident that you're guaranteed 50% of what's in the middle (i.e. you have the nut high / low hand). I've played O8 live in Vegas - where the rake is 10%!  You can only make a profit in this game if you play to win the high hand AND the low hand.
    Posted by J-Hartigan
    You're not guaranteed 50% when you have the nut high or low hand - definitely not with the nut low hand where splits are quite common.
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  • J-HartiganJ-Hartigan Member Posts: 2,756
    edited May 2010
    In Response to Re: HI/LO OMAHA CASH GAMES / THIS RAKE IS KILLING ME!:
    In Response to Re: HI/LO OMAHA CASH GAMES / THIS RAKE IS KILLING ME! : You're not guaranteed 50% when you have the nut high or low hand - definitely not with the nut low hand where splits are quite common.
    Posted by MereNovice
    Sigh.  Pedant :-)

    Allow me to re-phrase...

    You have the nut high / low hand - and you're convinced none of your opponents is playing snap!


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  • MereNoviceMereNovice Member Posts: 4,364
    edited May 2010
    In Response to Re: HI/LO OMAHA CASH GAMES / THIS RAKE IS KILLING ME!:
    In Response to Re: HI/LO OMAHA CASH GAMES / THIS RAKE IS KILLING ME! : Sigh.  Pedant :-) Allow me to re-phrase... You have the nut high / low hand - and you're convinced none of your opponents is playing snap!
    Posted by J-Hartigan
    Sorry, I don't believe that is being pedantic.

    It's a crucial aspect of PLO8 where people lose money by playing with the nut low and getting less than 50% of the pot in a multi-way showdown.
    The nut high often gets 50% of the pot while 2 or more players split the low pot.
    It is good tactics to play the high hand aggressively in situations where you believe this to be the case.

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  • J-HartiganJ-Hartigan Member Posts: 2,756
    edited May 2010
    In Response to Re: HI/LO OMAHA CASH GAMES / THIS RAKE IS KILLING ME!:
    In Response to Re: HI/LO OMAHA CASH GAMES / THIS RAKE IS KILLING ME! : Sorry, I don't believe that is being pedantic. It's a crucial aspect of PLO8 where people lose money by playing with the nut low and getting less than 50% of the pot in a multi-way showdown. The nut high often gets 50% of the pot while 2 or more players split the low pot. It is good tactics to play the high hand aggressively in situations where you believe this to be the case.
    Posted by MereNovice
    Yes, I agree.  Sound advice.

    And I know you weren't being pedantic, Vince.  Hence the smiley face!

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  • MereNoviceMereNovice Member Posts: 4,364
    edited May 2010
    In Response to Re: HI/LO OMAHA CASH GAMES / THIS RAKE IS KILLING ME!:
    In Response to Re: HI/LO OMAHA CASH GAMES / THIS RAKE IS KILLING ME! : Yes, I agree.  Sound advice. And I know you weren't being pedantic, Vince.  Hence the smiley face!
    Posted by J-Hartigan
    My apologies - I missed the smiley face.
    Any chance of "proper" emoticons being implemented for old duffers like me?   ;-)))


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  • MachkaMachka Member Posts: 4,627
    edited May 2010
    Whoa, Whoa, Whoa, hold on a minute, can we rewind 6 posts.  Did James compliment me?

    Must be a relapse of flea trap fever.
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  • freechips1freechips1 Member Posts: 861
    edited May 2010
    i do think it would be very hard to show a profit from this with no rake back, do any other sites lower the rake for hi/low? i asume not. 
    i had a look into a few sites a few weeks ago and seen some have a very high rake cap of 3.5 euro whist others have a cap of $0.50.
    im new to high low so i play far too many hands but so is everyone on here, maybe lower the rake to a 10p max for a few months to get people playing it, also do the same with omaha as it is yet to take off, i played a bit of HU omaha around christmas and you couldnt beat the rake playing 25p/50p, so have not played any HU plo since.
    anyone know what happend to the idea on a £4 allin omaha table with smaller rake?
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  • acebarry10acebarry10 Member Posts: 7,556
    edited May 2010
    In Response to Re: HI/LO OMAHA CASH GAMES / THIS RAKE IS KILLING ME!:
    Whoa, Whoa, Whoa, hold on a minute, can we rewind 6 posts.  Did James compliment me? Must be a relapse of flea trap fever.
    Posted by Machka
    Sigh, will you stop letting your imagination get the better of you ;)
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  • oynutteroynutter Member Posts: 4,773
    edited May 2010
    rake on this site is a flopwit rip off!!!---full stop!
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  • freechips1freechips1 Member Posts: 861
    edited May 2010
    In Response to Re: HI/LO OMAHA CASH GAMES / THIS RAKE IS KILLING ME!:
    rake on this site is a flopwit rip off!!!---full stop!
    Posted by oynutter
    a few sites (famous player with nuckle dusters) was caped at 3.5 euro and im sure a few will be far greater, skys rake cap is sort of in the middle.
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  • oynutteroynutter Member Posts: 4,773
    edited May 2010
    yeh--right in the middle-between flopwit rip off and flupwit rip off!!!
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