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STT strategy?? dohh!!
DOHHHHHHH
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k its 180 runner sit n go.
18 paid, 20 left, blinds 500/1000 - antes as well.
Raiser from mid position to 2k. (19k stack)
Call on the button from the chip leader (29k)
I'm in the small blind, I have 15k and 500 invested. I'm holding Ace Queen of spades.
Im conscious of the bubble, but I'm happy to come over the top of the initial raiser as he has been active pre flop. When the big stack calls on the button, It puts me off a shove, so I call.
So like 7k in the pot with antes, I have 13.5k behind.
Flop comes Ace King 7, with 2 hearts.
I like it, again, I check the action to the initial raiser with the intention of trapping/check raising.
HE SHOVES!
Im still calling.....until the chip leader, (button), Puts all his chips in too.
Now the action is back to me.
3 things-
- Is it a shove all in pre flop? even tho I hae a relatively comfortable stack, around 10th with 20 remaining?
- Would you lead the flop, rather than trying to check call.
- Do you ever fold?
Tourny run has been shocking - not my game, what dya reckon
DOHH
Comments
I take it this is a game on tilt or stars which are extremely weak on the low level buy-ins, im happy to get all the money in pf and probably get called by both with rag aces.
I am fairly confident Chipleader shows AKo in this spot.
I would stick the lot in pre mate. There must be almost 6k in there with antes, thats 40% of your stack and I think you should grab the opportunity. You've got plenty enough chips to seriously damage the CL and I think he's only calling with 3 or 4 hands. I would expect him to fold having called light to play in position against the active initial raiser. Even if he does have one of those hands to call with there's still only one thats got you in REAL trouble - AA. I think over time it would definately be +EV to shove here.
As its gone pre, I think you did the right thing post flop with all the best intentions and now you've got an easy fold.
JC
The next question would be, what did the big stack call with but not raise? My guess would be suited ace, suited king or suited connecters.
If the initial raiser is bluffing after the flop I would be very surprised and I feel that the big stack is chasing the nut flush. Ok if the initial raiser as got AJ you are ahead but you still have to fold!
Yes you could have gone all-in Pre-flop and pushed at least one off there hand possibly both but that would have been a risky stratagey sometimes I would, sometimes I wouldnt its all down to my gut feeling!
100% fold and even though you will probably fold the best hand it is near the bubble and had the chip leader not been in the hand then maybe a shove would be called for but do you don't really want to a battle with the 1 guy that can take you out. Having done what you done though, which Tommy said is the worst option and I think you will realise that now anyway, then on that flop your only worried about the hearts. At best the original raiser has A rag but I think that is giving him to much credit tbh, the chip leader imo could have any 2 cards here - I truely don't believe he has AK because I don't think he flats on the button with it, for him to call he has a piece of it therefore a few hands come to mind A8 A9 KQ KJ and possibly K10 - you just have to blank out he has 77 - and again I wouln't think he had tbh. On that board I probably woul be all in tbh but that is after having 5 minutes to analyse the play an it is unerstandable that you didn't have anywhere enough time to do that lol!!
Dont mind the check if you are planning to call the more active of the 2 & shorter stacker, but when both are all in definate fold. like others said maybe slightly ahead at best i'd say, someone couid have ak or flush draw not worth the risk when you have plenty of play left with your stack
You had 3 choices preflop with those cards and stack sizes and position. Fold (maybe on the tight side but still a very good option), reraise all-in (maybe overly aggressive but still a very good option) or call (weak,passive and a very bad option).Now because you called and put in 10% of your stack to see the flop you are in a bad position.You are losing to a better ace or several worse aces and are not that big against the flush draw.
As soon as the pot grew to the size it had preflop it was obvious that there would be at least 1 all-in on any flop whatsoever and as soon as the second all-in goes in this hand becomes for me an easy fold because you still have enough chips back to find a better position and to get the chips in first.
Difficult decisions like this can be easily avoided by not making really bad decisions preflop.