This little blog is going to cause a riot among some of you... the BAD BEAT syndrome..when you lose a superior starting hand to another smaller starting hand, or is it??.. On Sunday,my first day off for a couple of weeks, I decided to have another go at the Primo, (my 2nd), as I had done reasonably well at my first attempt by finishing 20th out of a field of over 400. I sat and watched Sky poker Tv..caught, up on whats what and who's done what...congrats to diggerman by the way...and readied myself for a few hours of poker...8pm arrived and l sat at my laptop, adrenaline slowly rising.. 1st deal came and went and l folded under the gun... 2000 chips intact...next hand I was the Big Blind... in went my 20 chips and waited for the deal... there they were!!!... the nuts!!.. AA!!...l rubbed my hands ...l thought 'can earn a few chips here..maybe double up'...one player mid table limped in with a call of 20..the small blind raised to 80...'nice' l thought..naturally I re-raised 320,,, the limper folded..the small blind flat called... the flop came down...all spades highest being a queen, but no straight draw... oops l thought.. small blind checked...and aware of the flush l bet 1/2 the pot..the re raise came from the small blind..pot commiting him... l had him on flush draw or AQ with the nut flush draw... I had it in my mind that he was trying to steal the pot or betting on getting the flush..was he trapping???..... having watched the replays....no..he thought he was ahead and probably had me on AQ...anyway l re raised all in...he called... he had KK with king of spades giving him the flush draw..the turn card came down and l was still ahead... then the river... 8 of spades...tournament over...my pocket rockets fell foul of his KK. Now a lot out there would call that a bad beat.... WRONG SO WRONG... it's poker my friends..nothing less and nothing more...could l have played that hand differently??? Yes.... a really disciplined player would have folded those Aces after the check-raise on the flop..he may have thought he was ahead at the time...but if you work the percentages out..it's something like 36% on hitting a flush by the river against something like 2% hitting a set..so who's going to win 8 out of 10 times... If I had folded the AA after the check-raise, at that early stage in the game the damage was not to bad...I still would have had 1400 in chips..enough to get back into the game. But that was not to be....there will always be a next time..... I really do not think that there is such a thing as a bad beat. You control your chips, and play your hand... you try and work out what your opponent has got based on his actions..what lets us down is our own ability to fold if the flop,turn or river goes against us..even if we have the NUTS to start...As far as pocket pairs are concerned....really, they are only as good as the flop...and if you decide that you are invincible and get beaten..then look again at how the hand played and learn from it... it is always hard to put down a pocket pair...l have learnt from my swift exit from sundays primo... the nuts are crackable...different flop l was well in..but l went against what was logically happening and paid the price.... Bad Beat?????..bad play.... Posted by larry1959
James said don't whine about a bad beat and you did the opposite, lol.You got your chips in ahead but as you say he was still about 35% to hit, so imo this defo wasn't a bad beat, i'm probably wrong but i feel bb are only when someone hits runner, runner for trips/quads but never for a flush.So i agree and disagree with you on the bb theory.I defo disagree with your choice of red though :~)
First thank you Pokerpairs for making it readable for me.
The answer to the question is yes their are bad beats but this is not one of them! You made a brave move after the flop which looked the right move at the time. I dont think it was bad play or a bad beat just a play that didnt come off!
Thank you for all the responses (even the funny/sarcastic ones) and votes on my last post ''BAD BEATS????...no such thing!!!!..the results suprised me somewhat as l thought they would favour the bad beat, but with 2 to 1 against the existence of 'BAD BEATS', it must be made official (as voted by sky poker members, drum roll, musical fanfare)..THE 'BAD BEAT' DOES NOT EXIST!!!... So next time you are beaten by an inferior starting hand, put it down to a bit of bad luck...we don't get the run of the cards all of the time..no matter how good your starting hand 9 outta 10 someone will call and occasionally gets the better draw... Good luck on the tables all
Thank you for all the responses (even the funny/sarcastic ones) and votes on my last post ''BAD BEATS????...no such thing!!!!..the results suprised me somewhat as l thought they would favour the bad beat, but with 2 to 1 against the existence of 'BAD BEATS', it must be made official (as voted by sky poker members, drum roll, musical fanfare)..THE 'BAD BEAT' DOES NOT EXIST!!!... So next time you are beaten by an inferior starting hand, put it down to a bit of bad luck...we don't get the run of the cards all of the time..no matter how good your starting hand 9 outta 10 someone will call and occasionally gets the better draw... Good luck on the tables all Posted by larry1959
Thank you for all the responses (even the funny/sarcastic ones) and votes on my last post ''BAD BEATS????...no such thing!!!!..the results suprised me somewhat as l thought they would favour the bad beat, but with 2 to 1 against the existence of 'BAD BEATS', it must be made official (as voted by sky poker members, drum roll, musical fanfare)..THE 'BAD BEAT' DOES NOT EXIST!!!... So next time you are beaten by an inferior starting hand, put it down to a bit of bad luck...we don't get the run of the cards all of the time..no matter how good your starting hand 9 outta 10 someone will call and occasionally gets the better draw... Good luck on the tables all Posted by larry1959
GL Larry, glad you have seen the funny side and have not posted in red text again.
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i was thinking more along the lines as psychotic menace emily
The answer to the question is yes their are bad beats but this is not one of them! You made a brave move after the flop which looked the right move at the time. I dont think it was bad play or a bad beat just a play that didnt come off!
Thank you for all the responses (even the funny/sarcastic ones) and votes on my last post ''BAD BEATS????...no such thing!!!!..the results suprised me somewhat as l thought they would favour the bad beat, but with 2 to 1 against the existence of 'BAD BEATS', it must be made official (as voted by sky poker members, drum roll, musical fanfare)..THE 'BAD BEAT' DOES NOT EXIST!!!...
So next time you are beaten by an inferior starting hand, put it down to a bit of bad luck...we don't get the run of the cards all of the time..no matter how good your starting hand 9 outta 10 someone will call and occasionally gets the better draw...
Good luck on the tables all
i am still refusing to read the question?