Aren't people mixing up the tournament crashing with people having connection problems? People were having intermittent or no connection for a long time before it crashed. The 194 still in didn't really 'battle their way through' nearly 2000 players if 1500 of them couldn't play. Posted by BelovedLtd
lol too true, just whiners that cant give a couple of free hours of their life up!!
To be honest, I'd say that everyone got to play a couple of hours poker for free. If you don't enjoy playing poker, then that's a sad state of affairs Posted by MereNovice
got to play poker for free!BIG DEAL.this was a competition free roll or not.i noticed that most of the people not complaining got knocked out or wernt in it.everybody had connection problems at some time.it is about time sky got their act together and maybe we wouldnt have to moan.
I agree, ideally there wouldn't be a problem to start with - but when people pay to enter a tournament and the software crashes (on other sites as well as sky), then if it's outside the money most people just get a refund.
Here's my suggestion to Sky - why don't you just refund everybody their entry fee for this tournament, it'd cause you a lot less hassle?
I agree, ideally there wouldn't be a problem to start with - but when people pay to enter a tournament and the software crashes (on other sites as well as sky), then if it's outside the money most people just get a refund. Here's my suggestion to Sky - why don't you just refund everybody their entry fee for this tournament, it'd cause you a lot less hassle? Posted by BelovedLtd
yes just refund it good point......maybe if they have a problem in the world series a hundred or so of the money they could refund every 1 or even start it again im sure all that was still in would be happy with that....it shouldent matter if its a freeroll or not the point is its not fair for those in to be put back to start......and if there was a problem at the start then sky should not have let the games go ahead to start......the 194 that was still in didnt have any probs so why are they being scr torude over sky should have a game for them as well as the rest instead of 2 restarts
I was knocked out in some uknown position which I didn bother to record, I totally disagree with the disrespect shown to the decision makers and the moaning and groaning to be treated as "special".
Why shouldn't the tournament be run again. Those who made it through should be good enough to eliminate their competitors who failed to make the grade (me being one of them)
I believe everyone's interests are served by a rerun even though I am probaly not skilled enough to get through for a second time. i applaud the decision makers for having to take the most reasonable course taking EVERYONE into account.
Fairness and respect are best served by respecting tournament managers when it comes to difficult calls and in these circumstance they have very fairly taken EVERYONE into account.
I was knocked out in some uknown position which I didn bother to record, I totally disagree with the disrespect shown to the decision makers and the moaning and groaning to be treated as "special". Why shouldn't the tournament be run again. Those who made it through should be good enough to eliminate their competitors who failed to make the grade (me being one of them) I believe everyone's interests are served by a rerun even though I am probaly not skilled enough to get through for a second time. i applaud the decision makers for having to take the most reasonable course taking EVERYONE into account. Fairness and respect are best served by respecting tournament managers when it comes to difficult calls and in these circumstance they have very fairly taken EVERYONE into account. Posted by hijimhere
yet again we have someone who was knocked out supporting the decesion.and as you have said yourself it is very difficult to get to that stage without getting knocked out. to be expected to go through it all again is WRONG!!!
In Response to Re: World Cup Kick-Off Freeroll - FINAL RESCHEDULE INFORMATION : eyet again we have someone who was knocked out supporting the decesion.and as you have said yourself it is very difficult to get to that stage without getting knocked out. to be expected to go through it all again is WRONG!!! Posted by kb245
You are making the assuption I posted simply because I was knocked out--you are WRONG--I posted because the decision is the right one and I support it--when any tournamnet is disruppted for any reason a re-run is the only balanced solution. I get the point some of those in the last 200 are making. It's a pity that seeing the reasoning behind the decision to rerun is something beyond those who are unhappy.
In Response to Re: World Cup Kick-Off Freeroll - FINAL RESCHEDULE INFORMATION : You are making the assuption I posted simply because I was knocked out--you are WRONG--I posted because the decision is the right one and I support it--when any tournamnet is disruppted for any reason a re-run is the only balanced solution. I get the point some of those in the last 200 are making. It's a pity that seeing the reasoning behind the decision to rerun is something beyond those who are unhappy. Posted by hijimhere
no .you are wrong.i dont care if you got knocked out or not.if any of theses people who make this dickkhead decisions ever actually played in these games they might for once understand WHY!!!!!!!!!!!
In Response to Re: World Cup Kick-Off Freeroll - FINAL RESCHEDULE INFORMATION : no .you are wrong.i dont care if you got knocked out or not.if any of theses people who make this dickkhead decisions ever actually played in these games they might for once understand WHY!!!!!!!!!!! Posted by kb245
Thats whats so sad about some of the people here, you see it in the chat box, once they don't get there own way the name calling/abuse starts, then disrespect to differing opinions kicks in not long after.
I respect what you and other people who are unhappy have to say. In this instance the qualifier I would like to have seen is all those who entered being able to express their views BEFORE any decision was made. Such a poll would have reflected the "majority" opinion. And I believe that the poll would have shown many who were "out" will have shown sympathy to the last 200.
Maybe Sky should clarify--for all future events/tournaments----exactly what the process will be and what level of expertise the decision makers will have. That way before entering you will know in advance exactly where we stand and therefore negate the need to kick off.
With respect to hijimhere, I disagree with the notion that people on the forum should have an influence on decisions such as this.
1. As kb245 so 'eloquently' suggested, people are biased towards what will personally benefit them the most. It is true that it is possible to come to an objective opinion, even if you don't gain from it - but most of the time, most people are going to be able to find a way to justify the outcome that they do gain from. Even if they are striving for objectivity this could still happen.
2. An absolutely tiny, minute proportion of Sky Poker players actually post on the forum, one of the Sky Suits might have the exact figure but the upshot is that any opinion decided by the forum cannot be seen as representative of the player base as a whole. One of the arguments used before was if their was such bad connections why aren't there more people complaining about it - I agree that most people won't have complained because it was just a freeroll but I suspect for almost all of them t he reason is because they just don't post on the forum at all.
I don't really think Sky should have to do anything, if there are problems we have seen before that the result is either people get refunded their entry and sometimes the tournament is rerun (if it's a one off rather than a regularly scheduled one).
And isn't the level of expertise they have; they run a poker site?
I'm not saying they run it well , but if anyone has a problem at that level then they shouldn't be playing here at all rather than bicker about problems with individual tournaments.
imo this should be re-run for all competitors that started,for the simple reason i got knocked out before the remaining 190ish,purely because i cant play poker,and in a word am "USELESS" poker player,so if its re-run i have another chance to donk my way into the prizes.................
With respect to hijimhere, I disagree with the notion that people on the forum should have an influence on decisions such as this. 1. As kb245 so 'eloquently' suggested, people are biased towards what will personally benefit them the most. It is true that it is possible to come to an objective opinion, even if you don't gain from it - but most of the time, most people are going to be able to find a way to justify the outcome that they do gain from. Even if they are striving for objectivity this could still happen. 2. An absolutely tiny, minute proportion of Sky Poker players actually post on the forum, one of the Sky Suits might have the exact figure but the upshot is that any opinion decided by the forum cannot be seen as representative of the player base as a whole. One of the arguments used before was if their was such bad connections why aren't there more people complaining about it - I agree that most people won't have complained because it was just a freeroll but I suspect for almost all of them t he reason is because they just don't post on the forum at all. I don't really think Sky should have to do anything, if there are problems we have seen before that the result is either people get refunded their entry and sometimes the tournament is rerun (if it's a one off rather than a regularly scheduled one). And isn't the level of expertise they have; they run a poker site? I'm not saying they run it well , but if anyone has a problem at that level then they shouldn't be playing here at all rather than bicker about problems with individual tournaments. Posted by BelovedLtd
Yes common sense tells me you have another very probable angle for the "human" element.
Here's the results from the two World Cup Freerolls on Sunday. Well done to everybody in finished in the top 32 of their respective freerolls, you're all guaranteed prizes!
Blades and THECHIMP look like they've secured hot tickets with Germany. Here's hoping rizlakid18 and Steely1008's teams perform well, though after Saturday's result that seems a bit hard to believe!
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If you don't enjoy playing poker, then that's a sad state of affairs
Why shouldn't the tournament be run again. Those who made it through should be good enough to eliminate their competitors who failed to make the grade (me being one of them)
I believe everyone's interests are served by a rerun even though I am probaly not skilled enough to get through for a second time. i applaud the decision makers for having to take the most reasonable course taking EVERYONE into account.
Fairness and respect are best served by respecting tournament managers when it comes to difficult calls and in these circumstance they have very fairly taken EVERYONE into account.
I respect what you and other people who are unhappy have to say. In this instance the qualifier I would like to have seen is all those who entered being able to express their views BEFORE any decision was made. Such a poll would have reflected the "majority" opinion. And I believe that the poll would have shown many who were "out" will have shown sympathy to the last 200.
Maybe Sky should clarify--for all future events/tournaments----exactly what the process will be and what level of expertise the decision makers will have. That way before entering you will know in advance exactly where we stand and therefore negate the need to kick off.
Fitz.
Blades and THECHIMP look like they've secured hot tickets with Germany. Here's hoping rizlakid18 and Steely1008's teams perform well, though after Saturday's result that seems a bit hard to believe!