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how do u play a nutter who raises most hands???
donkeyplop
Member Posts: 3,795
hi i was playing this person who raised nearly every pot i sat and waited for a good hand found one in the form of aces!
before anyone says why didnt i re raise more pre well imo they would of called most bets!
thought got ya. oh wait ive lost grrrrrr!
question is should i stop vs this person or re buy and wait again for another decent hand???
before anyone says why didnt i re raise more pre well imo they would of called most bets!
thought got ya. oh wait ive lost grrrrrr!
question is should i stop vs this person or re buy and wait again for another decent hand???
| Player | Action | Cards | Amount | Pot | Balance |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| DIEZELDEN | Small blind | £0.02 | £0.02 | £1.56 | |
| finster | Big blind | £0.04 | £0.06 | £4.49 | |
| Your hole cards |
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| lympany01 | Raise | £0.20 | £0.26 | £7.63 | |
| ProdigalSo | Fold | ||||
| donkeyplop | Raise | £0.36 | £0.62 | £4.28 | |
| DIEZELDEN | Fold | ||||
| finster | Fold | ||||
| lympany01 | Call | £0.16 | £0.78 | £7.47 | |
| Flop | |||||
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| lympany01 | Check | ||||
| donkeyplop | Bet | £0.78 | £1.56 | £3.50 | |
| lympany01 | All-in | £7.47 | £9.03 | £0.00 | |
| donkeyplop | All-in | £3.50 | £12.53 | £0.00 | |
| lympany01 | Unmatched bet | £3.19 | £9.34 | £3.19 | |
| lympany01 | Show |
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| donkeyplop | Show |
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| Turn | |||||
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| River | |||||
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| lympany01 | Win | Three 5s | £8.64 | £11.83 | |
Comments
yeah i know i didnt 3 bet much but i knew i would get called regardless lol
i did wait and wait then got this hand
[QUOTE]yeah i know i didnt 3 bet much but i knew i would get called regardless
Posted by donkeyplop
Is this reasoning, related to the outcome of the hand?
Are you saying even if you had 3 bet more, you would still have lost - hence trying to defend/justify the size of your bet?
The advice that the 3 bet was too small is something you should look at for the future, and a mistake you can stop making - NOT justification for him calling the bet, nor is it responsible for you losing that hand.
I fear you have missed the point about bet sizing here...
Posted by DOHHHHHHH
Love this forum, looks like I have just found out that I have been 3-betting to small since I started!!!
I always 3-bet about 2x the size of pot, say about 40-50p in the example above. This is bad then???
but dohhhh what i meant was vs this op i didnt think re raising say £1 would make any differance so i only bothered with the minimum raise.
i just got ul they hit on the flop i guess.
Which one do you chose?
Pre flop with pocket aces, you have the best possible hand. You can't lose, therefore, the more money you can get in to the middle the better.
It is a mistake to not bet more, especially if you are sure that he will call.
Is it making sense?
If the flop comes 2 2 2 - you bet, and he folds, you will have won 36p, but if you had raised to £1 pre flop - you will have won £1 when he misses the flop...?
It wouldnt have made a difference in this hand, but long term, it will make a big difference.
Posted by Patching99
This is better, but maybe still a bit on the small size? - micro stakes regs may correct me, but I remember bigger always used to be better at these stakes.
When I 3 bet against one opponent, I just trebble his initital raise.
So at 15/30p, the open raise is normally around £1, so I would raise it 3x £1, to about 3 quid, depending on how fishy the guy is. Sometimes if he just wont fold a hand pre flop you can make it more to get value.
If theres a raiser and a caller, the 3 bet size is bigger, so a guy opens for £1 and theres 2 callers, Im on the button with aces I'll make it £4-50ish to go.
If in the above scenario I hold 3-2 off Imake it £5 to go, show it and type lol
But at micros you will be 3 betting less hands, but betting them bigger - as you have to take into consideration the people left to act behind you, who, if they have any pair, or 2 cards the same colour, will come in, and you end up playing ur AA/KK/QQ 4 handed.
So in the above example id be making it between 60-80 - about as much as I can get away with without losing my man, so going with DP's info - id make an exception and shove ! lol
will try and use this from now on
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Tunbridge wells
personally, I often wait for a spot to shove on a nutter and then show 7-2 off, just to wind them up a bit--- then top up to max buy in, call a few raises--- then shove when I've flopped a whoppa, then steal a few--- then shove again with a whoppa-- they usually go away--- but the ones that stay go on a mental tilt, and just throw cash at ya--great fun!!--lol at them at every opportunity, and tell them they are a donkwit flaphead, and will never get thier cash back off ya, because you are a good player, and they are an idiot--- say "is that all your cash yet?" each time you win a buy in off them-- after winning 3 or 4 buy ins--- turn into a rock, but keep laughing
There are 2 main things to do to take easy money off these players, first make sure you are properly rolled and can take the beats they will undoubtedly dish out and if possible move seat so you immediately follow them which will give you position on them 5 out of 6 hands.
As we all know good play is aggressive but a player like this makes the fundamental error of thinking that all aggression is good play.So what you need to be doing is tightening your preflop range and only playing cards that will hit big and win a big pot. By this i mean suited connectors, pocket pairs and big aces.Get to see the flop as cheaply as possible and then judge your hand then. If you miss or just pick up a bad draw then insta fold, this way they will only win small pots and when you do hit big you can then take them to the cleaners.
The overly aggressive style of play you see in some players leaves only 3 options for the pot, they win a small pot, they lose a big pot or they suck out and win a big pot.
So the essence of playing these types of players is to show patience and trap.