Annoying community cards after a fold

GaryQQQ

I'm sure this must happen to all poker players all the time. 

Moments after folding you really wish you were still in the pot. Here's a typical example from today;

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
mcdonald11	Small blind		10.00	10.00	1430.00
mo703	Big blind		20.00	30.00	2930.00
	Your hole cards	4 8
GaryQQQ	Fold
suzie08	Fold
shorty09	Fold
mcdonald11	Call		10.00	40.00	1420.00
mo703	Check
Flop
		6 7 5

DOHHHHHHH

The annoying thing here, is that I should have called with the price being offered, not sure if I was in the middle of a hand on another table and got timed out or what......

Watch the money fly in, how often do u flop the nuts, and get zero action.

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
DOHHHHHHH	Small blind		£0.15	£0.15	£28.95
bbyfaceace	Big blind		£0.30	£0.45	£24.63
	Your hole cards	3 A
GAZ122	Fold
argo	Call		£0.30	£0.75	£35.57
speew	Fold
DOHHHHHHH	Call		£0.15	£0.90	£28.80
bbyfaceace	Raise		£0.90	£1.80	£23.73
argo	Call		£0.90	£2.70	£34.67
DOHHHHHHH	Fold
Flop
		8 K J
bbyfaceace	Bet		£2.70	£5.40	£21.03
argo	Call		£2.70	£8.10	£31.97
Turn
		Q
bbyfaceace	Bet		£8.10	£16.20	£12.93
argo	All-in		£31.97	£48.17	£0.00
bbyfaceace	All-in		£12.93	£61.10	£0.00
argo	Unmatched bet		£10.94	£50.16	£10.94
bbyfaceace	Show	K A
argo	Show	A 10
River
		7
argo	Win	Straight to the Ace	£48.36		£59.30

harvey23

well  it depends what sort of RNG system sky use.

For example Pokerstars is pre determined, which means once the hand is delt, all cards on the flop turn and river were already decided when the hand was delt.

Full tilt, uses a shuffling system, which means every second you take thinking about raise/call/folding, the flop/turn/river are instantly changing.


so if sky uses the latter, the flop would of been different.

The_Don90

In Response to Re: Annoying community cards after a fold:

well  it depends what sort of RNG system sky use. For example Pokerstars is pre determined, which means once the hand is delt, all cards on the flop turn and river were already decided when the hand was delt. Full tilt, uses a shuffling system, which means every second you take thinking about raise/call/folding, the flop/turn/river are instantly changing. so if sky uses the latter, the flop would of been different.
Posted by harvey23

Isnt this illeagal

MereNovice

In Response to Re: Annoying community cards after a fold:

In Response to Re: Annoying community cards after a fold : Isnt this illeagal
Posted by The_Don90

Why would it be illegal?

For information, Sky Poker uses the "pre-determined" method.

luvBWFC

Those are rather extreme example, but this happens all the time. I think it is a case of confirmation bias. You notice the flops where your folded trash would have hit, and pay no heed to the flops you miss totally with your mucked cards.

acebarry10

In Response to Re: Annoying community cards after a fold:

Those are rather extreme example, but this happens all the time. I think it is a case of confirmation bias. You notice the flops where your folded trash would have hit, and pay no heed to the flops you miss totally with your mucked cards.
Posted by luvBWFC

+1

The_Don90

In Response to Re: Annoying community cards after a fold:

In Response to Re: Annoying community cards after a fold : Why would it be illegal? For information, Sky Poker uses the "pre-determined" method.
Posted by MereNovice

Im sure i read somewhere (maybe illeagal was the wrong term) but while the hand is in prgress the deck shuffled at the start of the hand must remain the same.

MereNovice

In Response to Re: Annoying community cards after a fold:

In Response to Re: Annoying community cards after a fold : Im sure i read somewhere (maybe illeagal was the wrong term) but while the hand is in prgress the deck shuffled at the start of the hand must remain the same.
Posted by The_Don90

That would simulate the real world but Full Tilt operates differently - it's the only major site that does it this way as far as I know.
Mathematically it makes no difference which method is used - both are equally random.

Technically speaking I would say that Full Tilt's method is easier to implement but that could be debated.

hawk7112

Annoying community cards 

At the moment all of them ;(((((

st4r

In Response to Re: Annoying community cards after a fold:

Annoying community cards  At the moment all of them ;(((((
Posted by hawk7112

+1

FILIPSEBO

In Response to Re: Annoying community cards after a fold:

Full tilt, uses a shuffling system, which means every second you take thinking about raise/call/folding, the flop/turn/river are instantly changing.
Posted by harvey23

You could really drive yourself nuts thinking about this whilst playing

bobcat52

Every time this happens to me I bang my head on the table......

I'm currently in hospital with a fractured skull and the missus has raided the poker funds to buy a new table.

The_Don90

oops

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
IVISON	Small blind		£0.02	£0.02	£4.00
Risky-Earl	Big blind		£0.04	£0.06	£2.06
	Your hole cards	5 K
The_Don90	Fold
chrisbhoy	Call		£0.04	£0.10	£4.78
DrAbes	Call		£0.04	£0.14	£4.17
IVISON	Call		£0.02	£0.16	£3.98
Risky-Earl	Check
Flop
		K 9 5
IVISON	Check
Risky-Earl	Check
chrisbhoy	Bet		£0.04	£0.20	£4.74
DrAbes	Raise		£0.16	£0.36	£4.01
IVISON	Fold
Risky-Earl	Fold
chrisbhoy	Call		£0.12	£0.48	£4.62
Turn
		K
chrisbhoy	Check
DrAbes	Bet		£0.48	£0.96	£3.53
chrisbhoy	Call		£0.48	£1.44	£4.14
River
		K
chrisbhoy	Check
DrAbes	Check
chrisbhoy	Show	5 6
DrAbes	Muck	4 4
chrisbhoy	Win	Full House, Kings and 5s	£1.34		£5.48