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just bad luck @ casino?

godsluck88godsluck88 Member Posts: 31
edited July 2010 in The Poker Clinic
ok 2 hands in a row at the casino last nite cost me over £200.

1st hand i held pocket 5's called a raise off £7 3 pllayers.

Flop , 5,3,j

Player1 bets £10, players 2 raises to £30 i shove for £117 player 1 fold player 2 calls.

turn 8, river, k  player 2 turns over pocket kings. This is just bad luck right?


2nd hand i held A,Qo limped utg then called a raise off £9. 4 players

Flop A,9,9. checked around the raisers who bets £24 again i shove for my stacked around £120
everybody folds accept the guy who raises who makes the call to show Q,J

turn 3, river j.

Again can i get off this or just another bad hand.

Looking for any advice on these hands really.


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  • goodylad21goodylad21 Member Posts: 693
    edited July 2010
    In the 2nd hand the villian has AJ not QJ is that right ???
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  • scotty77scotty77 Member Posts: 4,970
    edited July 2010
    Both unlucky.  You got your money in ahead which is all you can do.

    First hand I would just flat call on the flop, if it was rainbow.  Your hand looks super super strong here, you def gave the KK the signal to fold.
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  • LOL_RAISELOL_RAISE Member Posts: 2,188
    edited July 2010

    why would you want to fold if you keep getting your money in as a 9/1 favorite or better

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  • BlackFish3BlackFish3 Member Posts: 2,418
    edited July 2010
    limping is not good generally imo. Why did you limp with your AQ?
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  • godsluck88godsluck88 Member Posts: 31
    edited July 2010
    In Response to Re: just bad luck @ casino?:
    In the 2nd hand the villian has AJ not QJ is that right ???
    Posted by goodylad21

    sorry the flp was Q,9,9  not A,9,9
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  • godsluck88godsluck88 Member Posts: 31
    edited July 2010
    in Response to Re: just bad luck @ casino?:
    limping is not good generally imo. Why did you limp with your AQ?
    Posted by BlackFish3
    i limped with AQ utg because table was really aggro most hands were gettin re popped anyway and though i would look really weak if i just flated a raise.
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  • The_Don90The_Don90 Member Posts: 9,814
    edited July 2010
    I wouldnt limp UTG either even on an aggro table. Lets QJ in far to lightly
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  • godsluck88godsluck88 Member Posts: 31
    edited July 2010
    In Response to Re: just bad luck @ casino?:
    I wouldnt limp UTG either even on an aggro table. Lets QJ in far to lightly
    Posted by The_Don90
    theres people sat with 600-900 bb there always going to see a flop with Q,J. Ive seen 4bets been flat called 4 ways some off them just dont like to fold pre
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  • The_Don90The_Don90 Member Posts: 9,814
    edited July 2010
    In Response to Re: just bad luck @ casino?:
    In Response to Re: just bad luck @ casino? : theres people sat with 600-900 bb there always going to see a flop with Q,J. Ive seen 4bets been flat called 4 ways some off them just dont like to fold pre
    Posted by godsluck88
    Right he may not like to fold, but dont you like to get your money in ahead. Ok they may call. But put a strong raise out UTG and 9/10 of the time they will fold.
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  • YOUNG_GUNYOUNG_GUN Member Posts: 8,948
    edited July 2010

    Just unlucky both times you have put money in when ahead, couple of bad beats what can you do

    Well played on both here imo due to when the money went in you were at least 70/30 fave in both

    Dont like the pre call with 5s, just because alot of the time your going to miss your 5 and would be wasting chips but hand standard play from there just unlucky

    Dont mind the call with AQ pre, altho on that flop bit risky to shove in but again you were lucky to be ahead and then very unlucky to get outdrawn

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  • lynx3ffectlynx3ffect Member Posts: 452
    edited July 2010
    good bad beat stories, cheers

    2nd hand not sure i see the point in shipping flop, lucky he hit his Q but in the long run i prefer a flat to keep in any bluff/semi bluff ranges villain might have and jamming turn unless theres a million ppl in the flop and its straighty/flusshy
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