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was my betting too weak?

pod1pod1 Member Posts: 4,377
edited July 2010 in The Poker Clinic
thought by just doubling his min raise down each street i was  showing strength, obviously not. how would you play it please.bernibuzSmall blind 15.0015.00925.00willieBig blind 30.0045.003785.00 Your hole cards
  • 9
  • 9
   jackpaksFold    pod1Raise 120.00165.001065.00scone1962Fold    tee26Fold    bernibuzFold    willieCall 90.00255.003695.00Flop  
  • K
  • K
  • 8
   willieBet 90.00345.003605.00pod1Raise 180.00525.00885.00willieCall 90.00615.003515.00Turn  
  • K
   willieBet 90.00705.003425.00pod1Raise 180.00885.00705.00willieCall 90.00975.003335.00River  
  • J
   willieBet 975.001950.002360.00pod1All-in 705.002655.000.00willieUnmatched bet 270.002385.002630.00willieShow
  • Q
  • J
   pod1Show
  • 9
  • 9
   willieWinFull House, Kings and Jacks2385.00 5015.00

Comments

  • beanehbeaneh Member Posts: 4,079
    edited July 2010
    what were you trying to achieve with ur raises?

    what sort of hands did you think he could have?

    what do you think he leads with, how many of those hands does he call a raise with?

    when he leads turn again why did you raise?
  • harvey23harvey23 Member Posts: 433
    edited July 2010
    learn to fold
  • pod1pod1 Member Posts: 4,377
    edited July 2010
    the guy had played over 80% flops, post flop i was playin against an over pair or 2 kings, turn i was playin against over pair and 1 king, harvey if you think i am putting down a fh at this point then mmm wrong. at the river my thinking was if you have a king so be it well played.
  • Dudeskin8Dudeskin8 Member Posts: 6,228
    edited July 2010

    Never min raise.

  • pod1pod1 Member Posts: 4,377
    edited July 2010
    bit different when its a min reraise
  • Dudeskin8Dudeskin8 Member Posts: 6,228
    edited July 2010
    In Response to Re: was my betting too weak?:
    bit different when its a min reraise
    Posted by pod1
    But your not asking any questions whilst giving him great odds to draw.
  • pod1pod1 Member Posts: 4,377
    edited July 2010
    you dont see it as a drawing them in bet

  • CLIOKIDCLIOKID Member Posts: 783
    edited July 2010
    In Response to Re: was my betting too weak?:
    you dont see it as a drawing them in bet
    Posted by pod1
    Pricing them in to hit their QJ, yes, yes it was.


  • pod1pod1 Member Posts: 4,377
    edited July 2010
    ok tnxs

  • The_Don90The_Don90 Member Posts: 9,814
    edited July 2010
    Right so a K is unlikley to bet the flop. Raise much stronger, id be happy to take it there.

    Anyways as played same again on the turn.

    River the J you didnt want to see, but your priced to call. Although i think the stronger bet shows that you have to fold.
  • pod1pod1 Member Posts: 4,377
    edited July 2010
    thanks don, nicely put
  • YOUNG_GUNYOUNG_GUN Member Posts: 8,948
    edited July 2010
    Pre- Played fine

    Flop Raise more, Min raising may represent strength to you but is giving people a chance to catch up and your not really finding anything about what your opponent is having. If you 3/4 bet his silly raise then you can either take it down or have a better picture whether he has a hand

    Turn Raise more/ enough to put you all in if you dont think they have the king this is the main point here, you have to rely on your reads at this point and either want to be shoving or folding here

    River as played, can sort of understand due to you wouldn't put him on a king and only 1 overpair which as he was playing 80% of hands you felt your fh was good

    Main thing is i dont think min raise is a good move unless you have the nuts as you are more likely going to get outdrawn playing it this way.
  • lynx3ffectlynx3ffect Member Posts: 452
    edited July 2010
    dont like the raise on the flop, not enough to start with and in any case you rarely get called by worse, a lot of the time this would be an 8 or A high and you dont them to fold out. i prefer flat flop then prob shove turn when the 3rd K comes and hope to get called by an 8 or A high donkey
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