You need to be logged in to your Sky Poker account above to post discussions and comments.
You might need to refresh your page afterwards.
Pointers in live poker etiquette
DAIBOOT
Member Posts: 522
Hi all
After three days of live poker here are some pointers in poker etiquette some of this may not apply to the sky poker tour Swansea players on Saturday (10 and 9) but may help if have never played live or only played live on the odd occasion.
10. Shower: The last thing you want to do is annoy your table with bad personal hygiene. Most people don’t need to be told this, but sitting beside a dirty, foul-smelling individual is extremely unpleasant. If you know you wouldn’t enjoy it, have the courtesy to show up clean and smelling like roses.
9. Look Good: There may not be evidence to support the correlation between how well you dress and your work performance, but looking dapper certainly isn’t going to hurt your confidence. People are also going to respect you more if you’re wearing nice clothes as opposed rags and you should always take any advantage you can get.
8. Check Your Cards Carefully: While it seems incredibly obvious that you don’t want to be looking at your cards in such a way that your neighbouring opponents get a peek too, it does happen. Hold your cards as close to the edge of the table as possible and only lift the corners up. Once you look, put a chip on your cards so the dealer knows they’re in play and try to commit them to memory so you don’t have to look at them throughout the hand.
7. Don’t Talk About Your Cards during a Hand: There’s nothing more annoying than players who talk about the cards they folded while a hand is still in progress. For example, in a heads-up pot, the flop comes down 7s-7h-Ts and a player who has already folded exclaims, “I folded 8-7 boyo.” It’s ignorant, rude, and stupid. Don’t do it – nobody cares what you folded if there are still players contesting the pot.
6. Don’t tank for too long: Nobody says you have to act quickly, but don’t agonize over a call for 10 minutes. It should never be that difficult and, if it is, you’re doing something wrong. At most, a tough decision should take you a minute or two; anything longer is just an unnecessary delay.
5. Don’t Muck until You See the Winning Hand: Mucking your cards is fine, but never throw them in the middle until you see a hand that beats yours? In situations where your opponent is hesitant to reveal his hand, he may be angle-shooting and hoping you simply toss your cards in, so always flip them up for all to see.
4. Keep a Level Head: Never let your opponents see you get too high or low at the table. When you drag a pot, act like you’ve won one before. When you get beat, act like gentleman and take in on the chin DO NOT punch the villain even if he deserves it.
3. Don’t Misrepresent Your Hand: Once you reach showdown, stop angle-shooting and reveal your cards. Also, don’t pretend to put chips in and then take them back or anything like that; just play the game and win fair and square.
2. Act in Turn: It’s not hard to keep tabs on the action in a hand, yet people constantly act out of turn. Whether you’re folding, calling, or raising, wait until the dealer looks to you before making your move. If you’re going to fold, simply push your cards toward the dealer. When calling, slide your chips into the middle. If you intend to raise, then make sure you clearly announce “raise” before you put chips over the line and remember not to splash the pot.
1. Do not Slow-Roll: slow-rolling is childless and a breach of etiquette. There’s just no reason to stall when you know you have the best hand. Call and put the hurt on your opponent, but refrain from slow-rolling AT ALL TIMES.
REMEMBER PLAY POKER FOR FUN.
I am having a poker sabbatical. I may play a bit this week but will stop then until September I hope the poker gods a kind to you all.
THANKS
DAI
After three days of live poker here are some pointers in poker etiquette some of this may not apply to the sky poker tour Swansea players on Saturday (10 and 9) but may help if have never played live or only played live on the odd occasion.
10. Shower: The last thing you want to do is annoy your table with bad personal hygiene. Most people don’t need to be told this, but sitting beside a dirty, foul-smelling individual is extremely unpleasant. If you know you wouldn’t enjoy it, have the courtesy to show up clean and smelling like roses.
9. Look Good: There may not be evidence to support the correlation between how well you dress and your work performance, but looking dapper certainly isn’t going to hurt your confidence. People are also going to respect you more if you’re wearing nice clothes as opposed rags and you should always take any advantage you can get.
8. Check Your Cards Carefully: While it seems incredibly obvious that you don’t want to be looking at your cards in such a way that your neighbouring opponents get a peek too, it does happen. Hold your cards as close to the edge of the table as possible and only lift the corners up. Once you look, put a chip on your cards so the dealer knows they’re in play and try to commit them to memory so you don’t have to look at them throughout the hand.
7. Don’t Talk About Your Cards during a Hand: There’s nothing more annoying than players who talk about the cards they folded while a hand is still in progress. For example, in a heads-up pot, the flop comes down 7s-7h-Ts and a player who has already folded exclaims, “I folded 8-7 boyo.” It’s ignorant, rude, and stupid. Don’t do it – nobody cares what you folded if there are still players contesting the pot.
6. Don’t tank for too long: Nobody says you have to act quickly, but don’t agonize over a call for 10 minutes. It should never be that difficult and, if it is, you’re doing something wrong. At most, a tough decision should take you a minute or two; anything longer is just an unnecessary delay.
5. Don’t Muck until You See the Winning Hand: Mucking your cards is fine, but never throw them in the middle until you see a hand that beats yours? In situations where your opponent is hesitant to reveal his hand, he may be angle-shooting and hoping you simply toss your cards in, so always flip them up for all to see.
4. Keep a Level Head: Never let your opponents see you get too high or low at the table. When you drag a pot, act like you’ve won one before. When you get beat, act like gentleman and take in on the chin DO NOT punch the villain even if he deserves it.
3. Don’t Misrepresent Your Hand: Once you reach showdown, stop angle-shooting and reveal your cards. Also, don’t pretend to put chips in and then take them back or anything like that; just play the game and win fair and square.
2. Act in Turn: It’s not hard to keep tabs on the action in a hand, yet people constantly act out of turn. Whether you’re folding, calling, or raising, wait until the dealer looks to you before making your move. If you’re going to fold, simply push your cards toward the dealer. When calling, slide your chips into the middle. If you intend to raise, then make sure you clearly announce “raise” before you put chips over the line and remember not to splash the pot.
1. Do not Slow-Roll: slow-rolling is childless and a breach of etiquette. There’s just no reason to stall when you know you have the best hand. Call and put the hurt on your opponent, but refrain from slow-rolling AT ALL TIMES.
REMEMBER PLAY POKER FOR FUN.
I am having a poker sabbatical. I may play a bit this week but will stop then until September I hope the poker gods a kind to you all.
THANKS
DAI
Comments
Very unlucky with you're out hand very deep into the tourney (see No.1 on your list) but very well played anyway mate!
Sorry to hear you feel the need to take a break! Get back sooner rather than later!
Chris
GREAT Post Booty.
I was lost for words when that, err, "regrettable" thing happened, I did not know what to say, or where to look.
It's quite outwith my understanding why anyone would do such a thing. I hope - think even - it was down to lack of experience.
You are a truly big man to take what happened with such dignity.
LOVED all the other points, too. You & me will always get along fine.
Much respect, even though you are Welshish.
ps, Pointers in spellin Pionters!! Ya got etiquette right, ffs, lol
Anyway, you were on mi table the other nite, so welcome back Dai, ya mad re-raiser you!!!
yep this was all per flop
pushed 41000 all in with AKh blinds 2000/4000 folds around to the villain tanks for 2mins then calls i show my cards he lets the dealer count out the chips 2 mins i ASK for him to show he turns AA!!! TILT wow flop 379 turn K river J. I went to say " $%^% you %^&^% " but thought the better of it. I looked up, look at Tikay and walked away went for a walk around Swansea and then had a beer or two. i have found out since that it was the villains first live game so mybe i should have had a word. AK v AA out of a game no regrets but slow play is wrong.
DAI
At the time i did not now the VILLAIN was a newbie that is why i feel i should have had a word when i had had five mins. i Know who it is and will tell the chap in a nice way if i come across him. the only way to deal with this is to walk away. as i never want to fall out with any player live or online i hope he reads this and may take something from it as poker is a fun game.
DAI
The fact they are new, & need help with etiquette, is all the more reason to register disapproval when such things happen, & have a quiet word. If you don't, they will never learn.
As to your PS, no, the period a month before, during, & since Vegas has been somewhat stressful &/or time-consuming for me in other areas of my life, so no, but I will take a look soonest.
One additional query from me. I dont see any mention in the original post or through having a quick online browse for further pointers regarding the etiquette between live players at a table. e.g. is it OK for one to talk to the other to try and get a read, e.g "I've got 6 outs, but I think you only have 2......" I see it on WSOP and other games on tv with the pros so is it acceptable or not? i.e. is it a legitimate tactic to bait/pressure your opponent.
TheBouncer
The first point is a good one the rules of poker can differ from place to place these are only small e.g the way the dealer is selected so you need to ask players and/or the TD. the game you play eg Omaha,stud is always the same game you know.
Talking at the table is fine by me as long as it is not abusive. BUT the more you say the more info you give away. if you say " i've got 6 outs ,but you only have 2" if i have hit the 2 outs already i can change my game. If i have no outs i fold!! that if what you say is right. that's poker
DAI
n Response to Re: Pointers in live poker etiquette: yes
Competition policies#9 mentions "speech play" being allowed - I guess this is an example of talking about "outs" in above posts? or does it mean something else?
General rules #36 mentions excessive chatter - I would assume the interpretation of this can vary from table to table depending on how active or withdrawn players are. IMHO anyone harking on about "missing Xfactor on TV" during the tourney should be sanctioned under this rule.... :-)
Thanks for all clarifications - all help to make a better event on the day.
I'll let Dai do the honours